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I saw your post and decided I'd just say hello.

[Mobius]

Hey Poison Ivy

Yes, I know what you mean about trying to control it, this is what occupies my time lately with OBE's, just trying to stay in total control & keep focused so as not to lose all the bits in between.

It is a good thing as far as OBE's go that you are aware of your physical body to the point where you notice your body being immobilized as in sleeping or waking paralysis, which seems to happen just before going to sleep or entering an OBE. The more you notice the easier it becomes (OBE's).

The two biggest things I learnt that helped me gain more accuracy & control was 1) Repetition ; like learning to type, play instruments, drive a car etc. only this was/ is practicing OBE's, &
2) Documentation ; so you can establish any coinciding factors & basically graph or chart it, e.g. OBE's happening more on the full moon, dreams & lucids at the no moon phase, real life applications to the dreams & OBE's. Also by documenting it, the act of writing it down re-inforces the experience, making it progressively easier the more times repeated.

Hope you don't go back to lurking mate, I'm sure some of your experiences would help others to clarify what is happening to them, so they can put their own pieces to the puzzle together & maybe along the way you will gain something priceless, just by talking.

Well, welcome to the forums mate & we'll see if we can get some more posts out of you yet, cya.

Good journeys

Mobius

[Patty]

Hi Poison Ivy,

I love reading the posts here, too.

And it seems like terminology does get a bit confusing sometimes. WE're trying to communicate things that aren't well defined because they are experiential and subjective --- but usually the idea makes it through the confusion which is good.

I'm 36 too. I didn't happen onto these experiences until a few years ago, though. But I'm getting a little bit of the hang of it, which is really really cool. I think Mobius is right about repetition and I really need to be better about documenting. Hi!

Patty

[Poison Ivy]

Thanx everyone for the warm welcome!
So far I like this forum..everyone seems nice and helpful. I've been on other lists where I didn't feel comfortable posting my experiences but here I think is better. Glad I found it.  

[Mobius]

Hi again all

Patty I agree with you on how confusing terminology is with regards to the metaphysical world & it is a difficult thing to overcome & sort out for yourself.

I've seen many in here including myself grappling with the terminology used by a particular author or site, as not only is the experience subjective, each author has had to try to make sense of pre-established theories, terminologies & authors, in the end they are either forced to follow a similar line of theory as others before them or to stike a new direction & risk people saying "hey, hang on, that doesn't correspond with what I have read before (the terminology) but the experience they are mentioning sounds similar to my, blah, blah, blah".

Unfortunately, for the moment, that is all we can do, to read books, forums & any other sources to put together the pieces of the puzzle for ourselves, & by documenting our own experiences, we can match them up with the terminology used by various authors to find which ones correspond with our own way of thinking, often, none of the authors cover the things some have experienced.

This seems to be a good forum to expose your heart & thoughts without everyone jumping on you & saying " I'm sorry, you are wrong" or "that doesn't exist" simply because they have not experienced it. So many things in the past I thought, man that is too out there, only to run into a similar experience myself later on in life. Now, I don't rule out anything as a possibility, if I havn't experienced it or have no further information on it, I just put it to the back of my mind until more light is shed on the subject.

Recently I saw on another forum a bit of mutiny amongst the administrators of the site & a senior member & it was all about terminology. Having names for the experiences we have is an important thing, but not to the point where someones experiences are pigeon holed into something that means little to them.

So Poison Ivy, feel free to say whatever YOU feel is happening to you, as you will find if it's happening to you, it's probably happening to many others as well.

Good journeys all

Mobius

[Poison Ivy]

quote:Originally posted by Mobius:


So Poison Ivy, feel free to say whatever YOU feel is happening to you, as you will find if it's happening to you, it's probably happening to many others as well.

Thank You Mobius..I think I'll stick around awhile

†Beyond the fear, there is a gate†

[Poison Ivy]

Hello everyone

I am new to this forum and web site directed to me by another. Ive been sorta reading and lurking around here and find everything absolutely fascinating.

Let me start by saying that Ive had many OBE's in my lifetime and have what I know as sleep paralysis but have noted that on here it is called something different like waking paralysis but mine happens as Im falling asleep. I have seen the 'entities' during this state and found if I'm able to let go of the fear, I can later turn it into an OBE and/or lucid dreaming which is very cool. I just can't seem to control it yet after all these years ( started when I was 14 and I am now 36).
Anyhow..I'll go back to lurking and reading and hopefully I'll be able to learn to control this state through practicing some of the tecniques I've seen here.