Guide or Higher Self in OBEs?

[MichelleK]

Hello, Astral Pulse members.

I am a new member but have been following a lot of the discussions here for months.

I have an issue I am looking for insight on. I have been having OBEs for a little more than 3 years. During the first year, they were for the most part spontaneous. As I have learned more about them -- why we have them, how to induce them, etc. -- I have assumed more control.

Beginning early this year, I have had several OBEs in which I feel (or perceive) something grabbing hold of me, like my waist or my shoulder, and then pushing me forward, to whatever my destination is. The first time I sensed this presence, I got distressed, though I was not terrified, and I ended up going right back to my body. The next time, I tried to order the presence to leave me alone and shouted things like, "I don't need your help." It never let go, so, again, I aborted the OBE.

For a while, I tried not to have OBEs because I did not know what it was. Eventually, I went back to having them and this presence has been with me pretty much in every experience I have had this year. My question is: What is this? Is this a spirit guide? Or is it my higher self guiding me?

Thanks and look forward to your response(s).

[Pauli2]

Tell it to show itself. I guess it is a guide, but it could be your subconscious too.

[mcdwg]

It could be your expanded self

[Xanth]

Hello, Astral Pulse members.

I am a new member but have been following a lot of the discussions here for months.

I have an issue I am looking for insight on. I have been having OBEs for a little more than 3 years. During the first year, they were for the most part spontaneous. As I have learned more about them -- why we have them, how to induce them, etc. -- I have assumed more control.

Beginning early this year, I have had several OBEs in which I feel (or perceive) something grabbing hold of me, like my waist or my shoulder, and then pushing me forward, to whatever my destination is. The first time I sensed this presence, I got distressed, though I was not terrified, and I ended up going right back to my body. The next time, I tried to order the presence to leave me alone and shouted things like, "I don't need your help." It never let go, so, again, I aborted the OBE.

For a while, I tried not to have OBEs because I did not know what it was. Eventually, I went back to having them and this presence has been with me pretty much in every experience I have had this year. My question is: What is this? Is this a spirit guide? Or is it my higher self guiding me?

Thanks and look forward to your response(s).

It's a phenomenon referred to by some as the "Astral Wind".
Personally, I think it's just your uncontrolled thoughts controlling you.

Learn to control your thoughts better and you won't have that problem.

Give this a quick read: http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/13/why-you-need-to-control-your-thoughts/
See if it helps you to understand what's going on. 

[MichelleK]

Thanks, all, for the input. The astral wind idea is something I never would have thought of, but it could be.

[Xanth]

Thanks, all, for the input. The astral wind idea is something I never would have thought of, but it could be.

Nono, my point was that it's NOT the Astral Wind... but a purely self created situation from not controlling your thoughts well enough.

[personalreality]

lol.  Good ol' Robert Bruce.

In John Magnus' book he spends a lot of time on overcoming "addictions" in your waking like because they manifest in many many ways once you are in an astral environment.  Some people never acknowledge these things and they spend years mucking around in their own hang ups.  I would say that the best course of action is to accept your power in this state and take control of the situation.  Having a passing thought to yell isn't gonna cut it.  You have to know that you are in control.

If that doesn't work, then I'm delusional and you've really got something screwing with you or you didn't really believe in your control.

[NoY]

I think it might be.............................................. A DUCK!
yep now that i think about it im convinced

:NoY:

[MichelleK]

Hi, Xanth. Not to worry. I know you were not saying it was the astral wind pushing me. I read the article that you referred me to, and I was just commenting on that separately. Thanks, again, everyone.

[Neccrid]

Although I am far-less experienced in the matter compared to a lot of people on the subject, if I were to take a shot as to why this occurs I would maybe say its your minds interpretation of you guiding yourself to where it is your going. But then again it is completely possible it's something else. Keep at it, and you'll probably find out soon enough. Good luck!