Help and OBE and 11 September

[Gandalf]

Because the future is not set (Remember the Terminator?). Although it is possible to predict degrees of liklihood (the diviner's skill is in how well they can gauge this liklihood), nothing is set in stone as there is a certain random element in the mix which is an essential part of living in the material world.

Certain random events might well have meant that the 11 september 2001 events did not happen, but things worked out so they did, just as it was a random event that made an american B52/artillery unit mistakingly bomb and kill over 100 civilians (women and children) at a wedding in Afganistan last year.

As Galadriel says in Tolkien's novel The Lord of the Rings, 'not even the very wise can see all ends'.

Dealing with the random element of life is part of what living here is all about. To be honest, things would be a bit boring without it!

Douglas

[Kazbadan]

And what about Nostradamus? How could he see the future? Using OBE? To be honest, i think that i failed on his predictions, he is a fake. He only had 3 quartains refering to a specific date. One of them mention the year of 1999 and the seventh month (July or September- september comes from seven). Nothing special, "coming from the skys" has happen in the refered date, so i suppose that it´s a little bit difficult to predict anything exactly.

[Frère]

First about predictions: you don't have to know the future, if you knew, you could not prepare for it. You have to focus on the work of now. Not on some future or past.

Then about innocent people: What do you know about these people? Maybe they're all fine right now? Maybe they are heroes? And the child who lost a father, or a mother? Don't you think he can be proud that he's mother or father died in such a historic way? Of course lacking one parent is always cause for jerk, but if that's the only cause, they might be happier than you. The ways of God are not to be seized. (blurly translated from french)

[Kazbadan]

I read somewhere here, that in a high degree of Astral projections, people use their astral bodys and se their learnings to help the world.

Now i ask: in wich ways is that happens? Are they like angels or something?

Honestly, the world it looks like the same with or with ou that help. Only if the help is working at a personal way.

If there are many people astral projecting, and if there is knowledge on what is gonna happen in the future, so why does not anyone predicted the 11 September outrages? If they have predicted such events, and alerted the world, maybe they wouldn´t kill so much innocent people.

The same is true to other events in the world...is gonna happen something bad in the next weeks? If so, when and where?