Help me define what stage am I, Please

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vstachu

Hi, every one
Im Stan

I been trying AP for past 4 months  mostly between 3-6 attempt per day everyday ( between 9 am - 23 pm )

I experienced some things
- Third day after i started i felt like my head went through pillow ( only head 3am i didnt slept at all ) ( i experienced this only twice )
- i felt like I was floating in my body 
- i felt like i was slowly sliding from my body to right side ( only once, 2 months ago )
( I never had sleep paralysis because i could move every time when i want )
- After 15 min laying still i always feel tingling sensation in my fingers sometime in my lips
- Twice i felt like my bed is shaking but very very gently
( When im going sleep im hearing loud very high pitch sound so i started using this )
- Twice i saw my ceiling through my close eyelids (3 months ago )
- Weeks ago after 1,5h of focusing on high pitch sound i felt like i was sinking in warm honey i didnt felt my body but i focus on that feeling and it was gone in a second ( i know dont focus just allow to be )
- I had one day ONE amazing day when I always felt powerful vibration after about 30min i did 6 attempts that day and always felt them ( it was 5 weeks ago, since then i had once vibrations The Most frustrating thing in the world is that i dont know what i did then that i had that many and that easily vibrations ;/ )
- i feel often rapid heart beat
- sometime i feel like i dont have enough air sometime i start " panic " ( probably body is jumping in to sleep mode breathing )
- rarely i see strips of light
I dont see progress  its more like  one step forward and two steps back

any way
my problem is that now im using method when i listen that high pitch sound and after about 40 min im always feeling like my body is very very numb to the point i dont know 1 in what position my arms are right now 2 i have hard time define where are borders between my arms and torso at that point  i have hard time focus on sound, images are popping some rubbish thoughts i always maintain to click and come back to listening high pitch sound then after sitting still for about 70 min automatically im start thinking that im siting for a very long time then i become aware of my surroundings i still dont feel my body even when i open my eyes and decide to not move i still dont feel my body or it s in that heavy feeling  numbness state

1.Can some one tell me what is that state that i described ? name or how "far" am i from ap ( i know that you cant tell me really how far becouse its up to me,  but am i close, very far, complettly begining ? ) maybe some timeline or graph
2. The images that are popping ( its no a light or shapes  its more like for example very old memories ) is this hypnagogic state or is it my incompetence maintain focus ?

One thing for sure i will not give up on this one but
Its extremely frustrating it really is that one day i feel vibrations or some movement and next day im doing exactly the same thing and i feel nothing

Please Help
Thanks
Stan

Bluefirephoenix

If your trance work isn't consistent you won't get anywhere. Try working in a recliner or chair to start with rather than trying to work when your half asleep. Unless your a natural at this ( which I'm not) the ground work is in meditation and being able to control where your consciousness goes. I find it easier to go within than think about separating which really isn't a very natural concept for me. But in any case your focus is very important to the point where you can place your consciouness anywhere and be there. Control can be such that you can do this from a chair or in bed. Some people have an easier time at night but I'm not one of them. There's really no staging to it. your focus and trance probably need work you keep working til you find what your looking for. The fact that your focusing on sensation is to me indicative that your focus is still physical. Focus more on going inward. my two cents worth..

oh wait Canada doesn't have pennies anymore.

Szaxx

Your inward travels may be those memories you are having. These are inside you and may be worth  focussing on when they appear.
If nothing has worked so far this may be your next focus point.
You will normally not feel your body at the changing point.
Try to build the memory into a picture or a scene that surrounds you.
This is worth trying for a while. Creating a scene with the vibrations being felt is one way to exit into another reality.
Its just your memories you concentrate on and don't think of the body at all. You are trying to project your conciousness away from it.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Astralsuzy

You are extremely close to ap.   You just have to do the exit to ap.   I think it is great that you are practicing a lot.   It makes me feel I want to practice more.   I think I will.   

Kzaal

You are very close to AP yes.
You are at the stage where you still think about your body too much (The part where you said you felt that you need to breath).
I see the vibration as an awareness stage that you are almost ready to AP. Usually theses will fade away when you are successful and you know how to AP easily.
Don't focus on the High pitch sounds, they are also to tell you where you're at in your progress.
The easiest way is to empty your mind completely. Don't worry too much about your body, once you're AP'ing your body will subconsciously breath.
Focus only on being calm and in the relaxed state.
Colors, sounds, images, will only disturb your attempts.
I would suggest not checking if you're ap'ing until it actually happens (checking stages and such[always wondering if you're there yet]) can be quite a distraction when learning to AP.
Just lay down, eyes closed, empty your mind, and don't let your thoughts get in the way.
Every thoughts can slow the process down immensely.
Once you are very close you won't feel anything beside warmth and you will feel super light.
You will know when you're there because it's completely different than a dream.
Emptying your mind can be difficult but I'm sure you will have no problems!
I would really like to read more on your progress as you go on!
Good Luck!
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.