How to project almost every morning

[jc84corvette]

Nice! Very nice!

I'll try this tomarrow night. Do you NEED that specific type of earplugs? Or would any kind do?

[cube]

Of all the earplugs I've tried those are really the only ones worth buying in my opinion. My ear canals don't seem to be the right shape for the others and I can always hear things through them. You can get them at Target.

BTW I just updated the last part of the post with my theories on why it works.

[AntiGravity]

Hey cube! That method sounds really cool. And it has something Im good at in it, sleeping! I dont know when Ill be able to try it though, for one I dont have a digital timer, (Ive tried another technique like this with a ticking timer and I could get to sleep at all) and two, even if I did have one it would be packed in a box somewhere because Im getting ready to move []. But I will try it sometime, I just dont know when I will. Thanks for the method cube! Take care!

[clandestino]

Thanks for that great post, Cube ! I'll try this technique next week.

Kind regards,
Mark

[cube]

Something I discovered this morning is that it's easy to confuse your mind with this one. It's possible that you will project but think you're in the physical, the timer goes off and you sit there fooling with the timer and the display doesn't make any sense and it's because you're in the astral!

What I'm going to do is to make a CD with a ding at these intervals on it so you don't have to use the timer, and also you should do a reality check every time the timer goes off.

[nitetravler]

Thanks cube, sounds interesting! I'll put this on my 'to do' list.

[MaDroX]

Hi,

This sounds very interesting.. but I have one question: Is it absolutely necessary to put in earplugs? Because I dont have any earplugs.. couldnt I just roll paper and put it in my ears (if this is really necessary)?


thanks

[cube]

Earplugs are optional but very useful, they just make it easier to fall asleep faster. Having a way to wake up at the given intervals is the only thing that's really important.

[MaDroX]

Ok, thanks.. I will try this tonight (right now it's 15.14 MET ) and then post my results tomorrow

I never had an concious OBE before so I'm willing to try everything[]

[upstream]

The anal method we have discussed with MajorTom is a funny sprout of my original method based on phasic/acustic disturbance of sleep (by LOG-loop). I've planned to write about this method, but you are ahead of my plans with your great thread, Cube. When I've ready your third post, I thought I have to reply. I'm sure you will find it useful. Maybe we could make a new method which works for everyone.

I use this method when nothing seems to work or I need to enhance my projection ability. Usually I lie down on my side (preferably on the right) and put an earphone into my other ear connected to my PC line-out socket in order to being waked up regularly (T=6-15 min. depend on the interruption time of sleep) by a brief, self-ceasing acustic signal - so there is no need to move. I start the loop after 4-5h sleep and 30-60m wakefulness (no protocolls are established in the name of fluidity - which really isn't work as regular rythms but sounds good) and "do the looping" for about 1-2h, or until some projection occurs, worthwile for getting up and write it down.

Applying the loop in the regular time window of interrupted sleep, the rate of successful projections moves around 4/5. Success is granted if all conditions are meet (proper sleep on the previous night, properly interrupted sleep, balance of mind, etc). The method might could be full-prof with a light but unpleasant change, causing many success in row. With T=3 min signal-frequency it even worked at regular bedtime.

In about 4/5 occasions I experience WILD, the remaining 1/5 cases are DILD like. The greatest thing I have to heighten is this kind of "phasic disturbing of the sleep" serve as a one-way path to the pre-OBE state. It will facilitate conscious stage#2 sleep, but will not exclusively terminate ongoing episodes of lucid dreams and definately will not ruin the generator state around stage#2. I even able to hear the signal from the dream state without blacking out and forced back into my body.

I use my PC running ClockWise as the mester timer of the LOG-signals. WinAmp or another media player will work as well, but continously read the same sectors of HDD. When I lived in a homestad I used burned CDs.

I advise a specific, brief melody around a sec of length. This is not necessary but gives you a number of advantages. By continously playing it in the background for some hours you could associate the melody with the act of getting back your body awarness. Again, the acustic disturbation will still work without it.

The original signal is generated in 1997 by an old computer called Enterprise - I'm sure some of you are still remember it. After a long break, when I warmed up this method in 2002, I played the original melody onto my PC at home. I still use this "old signal" in all signal complex, because I have no reason to change it. I just come up with it one day and still use it.

The main thing is simply disturb sleep deeply enough with a BRIEF signal to minimalise the response of sympatic nervous system. The lenghtly, fading pink noises have been tested and proved to be not so effective.

Actually the currenty LOG-signal I use is composed from three parts. A very quiet signal notice me and temper the initial shock if I'm still awake. Then comes two brief, harsh signal designed to get done the real job (the "old signals"). Most of the times I'm only aware the last one. Currently I try to find the optimal lenght between them.

According to the EEG, the first signal terminate sleep stage #3 & #4 and mix sleep stage #2 with some REM-like components (in the LOG-state activition of the paralysing system is one of them). The second signal inject my consciousness into the prepared superficial sleep, preferably directly into the LOG-state.

[cube]

upstream I found that if I put an earplug in one ear and a headphone earbud in the other that's playing a huming sound made by BWgen or something, then I can fall asleep and when I heard the hum in only one ear in the dream I say WTF is that? And it can shock my into lucidity.

However, I have trouble falling asleep with the earbud in, and it doesn't always make me lucid, so I still have to tweak that one a bit io make it as reliable as Surprised Body.

Maybe programming myself to listen for that hum while awake as you suggest would help, it would be like a continual reality check.

[cube]

Has anyone else tried this yet?

[MJ-12]

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[upstream]

I think you have misunderstood my whole method. It is like your Surprised Body method with a CD-player. The working essence of the original LOG-loop concept is a very loud and brief acustic signal that will raise you up from deep sleep. It's not a constant noise at all. (Continous reality check is not possible due to habituation.)

In one version of the LL, I have been used a very quiet bip-like noise in every 30 sec to help me get inner silence and continously keep me informed about the OS (crashed or still running). I've tired to use this signal for suprise the sensory gate when it is about to close (making me temporally deaf for noises below a treshold of volume). I've found that there is no such point, or more exactly, it could be absent when I suceed in being aware of my hearing all along. Seems like our brain is able to support many different OBE related states in which we are still able to hear.

But this states are not like LOG and more likely they will result some low degree etheric separations. In my opinion, the body is not really paralysed just slip into a state characteried by extremly low general muscle tone.

[Zonmezz]

This method works. I just did it for the second time (first time didn't work) and I experienced multiple wakeups. E.g. I woke up and got out of bed twice before I realized I wasn't actually waking up. On the third try I got up and checked my deck of cards on the dresser(which was what I was supposed to do to verify the RTZ location) and got three out of four (I already knew what the first one was going to be but the other three totally threw me. Got one wrong, I think, but I think I'm getting errors in download. I'm going to work more with this exercise anyways)

The effect was weird in that I could swear I was waking up but I ended up not waking up. There was a dreamlike quality to the situation too. Other than that WOOHOO!!! Thanks for a great method!!!
Jeez I hope I'm awake right now while typing this heh

Jason.

[Zonmezz]

I'd just like to say, after fully waking up.. that...

OMFG!!! I DID IT!!! For the first time ever too!!! I've been dragged out of my body a couple of times and ended up in dream state but this is the first time. It wasn't perfect but dammit it's not supposed to be.

Thank you cube!!! THANK YOU!!! TY!!! TY!!! TY!!!!

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[cube]

That's fantastic!!!

You're right about how deceptive this method can be, the reality checks are critical because it's so easy to have a smooth projection and not know it.

I really want to know about how people are faring with this and what problems they're running into so I can work out the bugs. It works great for me but it would be a mistake for me to expect it to work for everyone without some tweaks, of course I can't make the tweaks without a lot of feedback.

[Dream Cadet]

Hey Cube,

I'll give it the method a test run for a few days and let you know what I come up with.  Sounds promising![]

D.C.

[Omnigod0101]

Hey cube, sounds like a very promising method! I've actually (with the help of my snooze button) triggered false awakenings before. I think this will definatly increase the chances of it working again by great amounts. At either rate, I bought all the needed items tonight, so I'll be trying it out first thing in the morning before work! I'll let you know how things go.

[Leyla]

I just tried it. Set my alarm two hours early and here I am; still sitting here wide awake and unable to get back to sleep. *sigh*

[Omnigod0101]

That sucks Leyla, I had a completely different problem though. I completely forgot which timer was specifically recommended so I bought some Oyster or something rinky-dink timer. I woke up two hours early, set the timer to go off in 5 minutes...woke up 50 minutes later and realized the timer was so quiet it didn't wake me up. Couldn't sleep the rest of the morning and now I'm dragging butt in work lol. Thank god I get weekends off. I'll be able to try more then.

[cube]

Leyla, if you can't get back to sleep immediately, I find the best thing is to stay up for an hour before trying again. If I can't get to sleep in 15 minutes or so then laying there for a long time makes it even harder to fall asleep. This is one of the reasons I think it's good to start two hours early so that you have some leeway.

You can try drinking some heated milk and have a banana, that works pretty well too.

[upstream]

You should avoid exposure to bright light which will delay sleep onset.

I've found the most appropriate time to go back to sleep is when you hear bursts of inner noises.

[cube]

You mean you hear hypnagogic sounds while you're up and around?

[ImmuredSoul]

I'm going to try this. I am guessing that everyone else posted before has already had projection/lucid/etc.? I'm only asking because I've had nothing, or at least I don't think I've had anything happen to me. 'Course, I haven't really been trying for long, either. Well, I'll give this a try, if I don't forget about it by the time I got off.

Last thing I tried (while back ago, something about your feet being in a chair and you lying in the floor or something where you're making your legs fall asleep?) didn't work at all, but I did wake up about fourteen (yeah, I slept a long time, hehe) hours later to find the worst kind of discomfort in my legs. Had a hard time walking after that, and there was a strange pull in my legs afterwards.

Well, more posting (I've taken a mental note here) and then I'll try this. Thanks for the method, Cube.

edit: also, when you say morning, do you just mean that two hours before you wake? I sleep during the daytime most of the time, sometimes both, sometimes neither. Would that affect my, uh, ratio with those things you were talking about earlier (bad memory, sorry)? I'll still try it anyway, but I'm not sure how I can do this. Maybe I should just sleep for six hours and then try it? (I think I've found a bug for people who sleep like me, lol)