How to project almost every morning

[AntiGravity]

I was going to try it this morning, but I just wasnt capable of falling asleep because I was wide awake, and I couldnt get relaxed. Im not using ear plugs, but I think I should because Im using one of those kitchen timers that ticks, that dont bother me much though. Ill try this again tomorrow, Im pretty excited to just think that I could project by just sleeping! I cant wait []! Oh, one thing I wanted to ask Cube, why did you title this thread How to project ALMOST every morning? Actually I could probably see why with my explanation of this morning, lol. Ohwell, Ill try it again tomorrow and let you know how it goes. Take care!

[cube]

If you have trouble falling asleep:

1.) Spend at least a half hour in the sun the previous day so your body makes enough melatonin. The best time to get sunlight is in the early morning because you're far less likely to get sunburned since the light is filtered through more of the atmosphere when it's low in the sky. The afternoon is the worst time because of sunburn risks.

2.) Exercise the previous day

3.) When you get up, stay awake until you start yawning again, then go back to bed. If you lie there while you're not tired enough it probably won't work.


And one thing that makes this waaay more effective: get nice an comfortable during the first 5 minutes. Then don't move ANYTHING the rest of the time, be as perfectly still as you can. This is not easy at first but it makes the vibes come much much faster.

One way to do that is to watch what sleeping position you're in when you first wake up, then when you go back to sleep assume precisely the same position.

The goal is that when you get up again you are still in the exact position you were when you went to sleep.

[AntiGravity]

quote:Originally posted by cube

If you have trouble falling asleep:

1.) Spend at least a half hour in the sun the previous day so your body makes enough melatonin. The best time to get sunlight is in the early morning because you're far less likely to get sunburned since the light is filtered through more of the atmosphere when it's low in the sky. The afternoon is the worst time because of sunburn risks.

2.) Exercise the previous day

3.) When you get up, stay awake until you start yawning again, then go back to bed. If you lie there while you're not tired enough it probably won't work.


And one thing that makes this waaay more effective: get nice an comfortable during the first 5 minutes. Then don't move ANYTHING the rest of the time, be as perfectly still as you can. This is not easy at first but it makes the vibes come much much faster.

One way to do that is to watch what sleeping position you're in when you first wake up, then when you go back to sleep assume precisely the same position.

The goal is that when you get up again you are still in the exact position you were when you went to sleep.

Great, thanks for the tips Cube! I really admire your extensive knowledge on AP and things, it has been very helpful for me []. Ill do some yoga or something before/after dinner, thats always tiresome work[]. Its very cloudy out right now and I havent been outside all day, so if this doesnt work tomorrow, (which I really doubt []), Ill spend sometime outside meditating or something. Thanks again for your pointers!

[AntiGravity]

I tried this this morning, it was going pretty well but I didnt project. There were some times during the 10 and 15 min. naps where I couldnt hear the ticking of the timer. I was able to fall asleep for the 5 and 10 min naps, but it got progressively harder to stay asleep. At the first 25 min. thing, I gave up. I was just to wide awake. Ill exercise a lot today, doesnt look like I can get out in the sun today though, it very cloudy again. Ill be sure to keep you all updated on the progress with this method! Take care!

[cube]

Here's a method that may work better for you:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13576

[mactombs]

Thanks for the neat timer html, cube!

I'll be trying it out tomorrow morning, so I'll let you know how it goes.

[Kazbadan]

Wit so many nice techniques in no time people in the forum will be asking for autographs to you!

Anyway, i am still being the newbie, searching for my first time (as people say, the first time it is always the most difficult one).

Because in cannot understand everything people says in english (i am portuguese) i will ask you please to clarify this sentence "when the timer goes off".

Is this refering to the time after the timer gets bleeping? I mean,the sentence means: "when the timer finish making the anoying noise".

Sorry for so stupid question, but you said that we need to use the method in the ecat way you describ, so i need to know every point of your method[].

About people that suffer of insmonias, like me. I think that, after many years with insomnias, i habe found a way to get sleeping more faster (which can help with obes and withyour method). Basically it´s this:

1- Avoid doing nothing during the day or you wont get sleep at night. Make some exercise during the day.

2- Only sleep if you are tired (mentally and/or physically), even if that means going to the bed at 2 clock of the morning.

3- Avoid naps during the day.

4- When you get to sleep (you are tired i hope) find the best position and avoid changing it.

5- Close you eyes and remember that if you start thinking in the bad things of your day, if you think in yourproblems, etc,etc, you will not get sleep. Avoid too creating nice images to recall sleep. No, instead of that just feel your tiredness of the body and the mind.
Dont be afraid if you dont get into sleep. Now, start to feel that tiredness and feel how relaxing is that it. Start to feel it and go off with it, like if it is a plane.

You know when you are in a car like a passenger, the car it is in the highway and you feel in the same "mood" as the car. You get into that ryhtm and start to sleep? Do you know what i am refering too? So, the technique i speak above it is similar: you just need to go off withyour tiredness and say bye,bye to everything: no problems but no nice things too (i mean, dont think in your girl for instance[]). This is a so simple technique that i dont know how to explain it better. Jsut feel tiredness and go off.

[Kazbadan]

quote:Originally posted by Zonmezz

This method works. I just did it for the second time (first time didn't work) and I experienced multiple wakeups. E.g. I woke up and got out of bed twice before I realized I wasn't actually waking up. On the third try I got up and checked my deck of cards on the dresser(which was what I was supposed to do to verify the RTZ location) and got three out of four (I already knew what the first one was going to be but the other three totally threw me. Got one wrong, I think, but I think I'm getting errors in download. I'm going to work more with this exercise anyways)

The effect was weird in that I could swear I was waking up but I ended up not waking up. There was a dreamlike quality to the situation too. Other than that WOOHOO!!! Thanks for a great method!!!
Jeez I hope I'm awake right now while typing this heh

Jason.

So, how manu sucesses and wrongs did you have? Tell me more about that proofs, that something that interestes me a lot. thanks

[LordoftheBunnies]

Well, I tried this just this morning and wasn't able to project, though I did have quite a few unusually vivid dreams.  Part of the problem was that after getting up early and eating something, I was then too awake.  I didn't actually start to fall asleep until the 20 minute nap, and by then I accidentally pressed a button on the alarm that turned off the timer and screwed up the process.  I tried it later, and although my dreams were vivid I was too awake by that point.

I'm wondering, when you get up 2 hours early might it be a good idea to stay in bed and just go ahead and set the alarm for 5 minutes?  I know you'd be less alert, but it seems like getting up to eat only made me to awake, even though it was early.

[upstream]

If you are like me, it will work.

[mactombs]

I tried this. The html timer works great, but unfortunately I had the same problem I have had with previous times: I was too tired. I stayed up 4 hours longer than I should have before going to bed. I woke 5 minutes before my alarm would have gone off, got up, turned it off, started the html timer. The first 5 minutes I was awake for, the rest I never heard. Well, I probably actually did hear them, but instead I just dreamed one of my coworkers telling me every so often, "Why did you put this on my computer? Turn it off!" I also dreamed that I was trying to get to sleep.

I will post when I properly can do this technique.

BTW, the results my friend had using this technique resulted in powerful vibrations, a feeling of being sucked out above his body, chakra stimulation - overall a very potent concious first-time exit.

[Kazbadan]

I made a mp3 layer im my pc. It´s a sound (5-10 seconds more or less) not very disturbing. After that sound that audio file it is only somposed by silence. I  will use that in my mp3 player this night putting that with looping. This will cause to have that sound awaking me every 10 minutes (the duration of the file). Initially i did this to apply to the other technique postedin this same forum by cube. I think i will make a new version similar to this one, but that can be applyed to this specific technique.

I would like to post my file here but i was not able to do it (due to some error and to the time taken to post my file).

[cube]

Kazbadan,
I see how that wording can be confusing. By "when the timer goes off" I mean when the timer beeps and wakes you up. In English, when a timer "goes off" it actually means when it turns on!! [] I'd never noticed that quirk in English before.


LOB,
"I'm wondering, when you get up 2 hours early might it be a good idea to stay in bed and just go ahead and set the alarm for 5 minutes? I know you'd be less alert, but it seems like getting up to eat only made me to awake, even though it was early."

If you are able to go back to sleep immediately when you wake, and you're not so hungry that it keeps you awake, then just go straight into the routine. However if you find that you can't get to sleep, then you should stay up for a bit while until you're tired enough to sleep again.



mactombs,
"The first 5 minutes I was awake for, the rest I never heard."

Make sure the alarm you use is loud enough to wake you up without fail. You want to be totally awake each time so that you're coherent enough to have an OBE.

My first incarnation of the HTML timer had a fatal flaw in that the sound it played was a nice and pleasant fairly low pitched tone. It was loud but it never woke me up. After 4 days of it not waking me up I made the current version which uses an annoying high pitch and does the job for sure.

[Mystic Cloud]

I tried this and the first time I didn't succeed in getting
sleep at all, was too hot and was too energetic. So I stayed
up a few minutes and se the timer to 10 and tried again,
at the 20 min mark I quickly woke up and fell asleep feeling
the heaviness come, then I felt the vibrations come, and then I
asked myself when I should split.

After that there started coming different initials like WZ: OK
TZ: OK, after sinking deep enough there came something like
Separation phase: OK. After this I separated and I only had
1 eye open and the moving was like playing with inverted mouse []

Guess I've played too many computer games with all that OK stuff [)]

Anyway thanks cube for this great thing []

[cube]

Yeah it seems like the biggest problem with this method is actually getting back to sleep once you wake up, but it also seems like once people go to sleep they do have some kind of experience.

I've been looking for ways to ensure that you can fall asleep again, if anyone has ideas please post them.

[mactombs]

quote:Yeah it seems like the biggest problem with this method is actually getting back to sleep once you wake up, but it also seems like once people go to sleep they do have some kind of experience.

My friend and I have the opposite problem. Once we wake up, we fall too deeply back to sleep to continue the experiment. This morning I woke up early after my regular alarm had been going off for 45 minutes, so I turned it off, decided if it took me 45 minutes to wake from my normal alarm, there was no way I could do the experiment, and went back to bed.

It amazes me that people could possibly wake up early and not go immediately back to sleep.

Since the first experiment, I have not been able to go through with this again due to falling back to sleep and not waking up until work time.

[cube]

Maybe you could try drinking something sugary or cafinated like a coke?

[upstream]

or try to look into a very bright light for 1-2 mins

[LordoftheBunnies]

Well, I tried this again today, and just as before had problems with falling asleep.  It's sort of weird, usually whenever I wake up for work I push the snooze button on my alarm, then immediately fall back asleep.  I'm beginning to think that part of the problem is me being to eager and alert when I wake up, in expectation of projecting.  Setting timer might be making me more alert as well since it requires more movement.  Also, last night I didn't get very much sleep, and had done some energy raising, which tends to make me much less sleepy.

It seems that many of the conditions have to be just right, a decent amount of sleep the night before, not to drowsy or alert, not to energized.

[Sentential]

Yea thats the odd thing about psionic phenonomen. It only seems to works when you *arent* expecting / depending on it. Funny how karma keeps us in check[B)]

[Orcher]

Hi all.

I just want to tell you that this method worked very well for me either. I tried it 3 days now. The first day i hit the stage of paralyzation and vibration feeling 2 times. I felt like i was free from my body, but really didn't manage to escape it. Its always like that !  (I have never manage to go further the paralyzation and vibration stage)
The other days gave me the stage of lucid dream which evolved to paralyzation and vibration. And neither there was i able to escape.

Cube your method is really good one, I noticed its easier for me to enter the hypnagogic if you wake up 5 sec after the alarm and confirm the OBE for your self and lie down to sleep. YES TO SLEEP. Couse actually you will sleep, but with awarness wich evolve to lucid dream or hypnagogic stage which in turn it will lead you to paralyzation and vibration.

I'am now doing some experiment with this method and i will keep in touch.
And thanks Cube for sharing your experiment with us which gave us a great method!
You have to excuse my poor english couse iam not an english spoken guy.

[cube]

LOB,
Here's something I'm working on tuning up in order to practice falling asleep more consistently before actually trying the BFO method:

morning 1

wake up half hour early

observe your body position

observe body relaxation level

stay still and fall asleep again, watching yourself

morning 2

wake up 45 minutes early

observe your body position

observe body relaxation level

stay still and fall asleep again, watching yourself

morning 3

wake up 60 minutes early

observe your body position

observe body relaxation level

set timer to wake up after 30 minutes

stay still and fall asleep again, watching yourself

morning 4

wake up 90 minutes early

observe your body position

observe body relaxation level

set timer to wake up after 30 minutes

set timer to wake up after 30 minutes

stay still and fall asleep again, watching yourself

I haven't started practicing this yet because I'm gradually working my sleep schedule back to wake up at 6:00 because I think it may also be easier to fall asleep again when the sun isn't up. It might actually be somewhat unhealthy to fall asleep again a lot during daylight.

What do you think about that? If you try this sleep training thing please let me know how it goes.



Sentential,
I agree to an extent but I also think that we will eventually get past having to beg karma to project with consistency.


Orcher,
Yes, you're correct about sleeping. In this method the OBEs happen when you actually are asleep in the middle of the intervals. This is different from Rapid Fire Phasing where you phase into an OBE within 30 seconds of the timer going off. Please keep us posted on your progress!

[Dream Cadet]

Hey Cube,

I tried this method again this morning,  I had some really cool dreams, 1 lucid but no OBE.  I tried your HTML timer but I don't get any sound.

Any suggestions?

Happy Travels,

D.C.

[Sentential]

Cube I wanted to mention this, in case you forgot. Did you add my suggestion about running modified aura types? I know it helped a great deal for you. Eventhough its an advanced method, and possibly dangerous. It would help those looking for more consistency.

Speaking of which, has this helped with you at all? LOB might be interested, however have someone like myself or SD help guide the process, you know what Im talking bout[]

Cube, if you or LOB are on tonight, give me a buzz. Its been awhile[8D]

[cube]

I hadn't been trying for OBEs lately because I was getting my sleep schedule so I would wake up at 6. I woke up pretty early today so I decided to try again. I intended to do body fake out but wound up doing rapid fire phasing. It seems once you know how to phase it's a lot easier than BFO even though BFO is initially easier. I had about 6-8 short OBEs in about 2 hours.

8/8/04
up 5:35
decided that I would add a 20 minute interval to the start in order to relax first
set timer for 20, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 doing BFO
got up after about 5 mins and had a protein shake
couldn't sleep when first beep went off
was too hungry to sleep, not very tired, got up at 5:55 to wait to get tired
ate 3 bananas, corn
yawned at 6:50 so I went back to bed
set again for 20, 5, 10...

got comfortable, alarm too loud on 20, turned down a bit, again too loud on 5, turned down a bit
didn't get to sleep until I think the 15 min interval
when it went off for the start of the 20 min interval woke me up, I didn't move and relaxed to go back to sleep
I got pretty strong vibes almost immediately
I didn't have paralysis so I didn't try deep breaths.
The vibes weren't strong enough to convince me I had separated so instead of focusing on the force of gravity to press me out of my body I began trying a new self-awareness preservation trick, I repeatedly asked myself "Who am I?" and then replied "I am cube" over and over the whole OBE. (I used my real name, not cube)
Surprisingly when I first asked it I had a strong urge to say I was something else, but I overcame it and said my name.
I relaxed with the vibes saying who I was over and over in order to maintain focus and also not lose my awareness to a dream personality until I felt the vibe go away and when I tried to open my eyes a little I found I had OBE blindness to a degree, so I knew I had separated.

My sight quickly improved and my first OBE was the most vivid, I got up and flew out through the window hoping to have an RTZ exploration where I got more than 20 feet from my apartment. Flying through the window seemed to result in a reality shift because I wound up flying around in basically an enormous building that was at least the size of my town. There were beautifully constructed rooms with very unusual architecture and people going about their business, there seemed to be lots of sunlight coming in everywhere making it all very bright and colorful. The rooms were enormous, each one the size of city block. I kept trying to find the way to the outside, there were gigantic windows in each of the room that would go into yet another room.

I found I was back in bed with vibes, so I did the same relax+"I am cube" exit method. I got up with slightly less clarity of sight. I found that I couldn't fly through the window because it was solid this time, for whatever reason. Instead I walked over to go out my front door, I found that the layout of my apartment was a little different and sort of in the style of the buildings I mentioned.  I tried upstreams "lay down in the position (but not necessarily the location) of your body" trick in order to try to make the OBE last longer. I lay there for maybe 15 seconds and I don't know if that was long enough. I walked around for a short time and then found I was back in my body.

I had a series of about 4 or 5 more OBEs like this, each one a little less clear than the last I think, until I eventually lost my self-identity and therefore went into a vivid dream.

I remember in a few of the OBEs I was unsure if it was really an OBE because it felt so real, it was easy to imagine that I was walking around like I was awake.

In one of the OBESs I did find a trick for gaining sight. All I did was use my hands to pry my eyes open and suddenly I could see perfectly! I think this works well because you're being very clear about what you want to have happen. It's like using a pair of scissors to open a dream paper package rather than trying to imagine it opening by itself. Just imagining it opening on its own is not very effective because you don't have much real-life experience with packages opening by themselves and so it's hard to be clear about what you're intending to happen. However if you imagine an invisible pair of scissors cutting the paper, then you're using well-defined life experience to be very clear about the result you desire.

So, if you use your hands to open your eyes up it should work pretty well to gain sight. To be clear about it, you might want to practice, while awake, reaching up and opening your closed eyes with your hands so you are sure to be clear about what you're doing when in the dream/OBE.


Got up at about 8:55. All of those OBEs/dreams actually took place in about 20 physical minutes I think, and felt like they lasted 2-3 hours in dream time, with the final vivid dream taking up most of that, about an hour of time.


Interesting update:
I mentioned that in the second OBE the layout of my apartment was different. One if the things I remember was odd was that in my living room, one of the corners was not just a normal 90 angle of two walls. Instead the two walls were joined by a short diagonal wall with a door in the middle.

I found that strange because usually the changes in an OBE are mostly cosmetic such as things being bigger or lit in a different way. Major functional changes like that are rare.

However I just noticed that I have a half-length mirror propped up in that corner in a diagonal across the two walls. So it looks like the mirror has made a door in the RTZ! Next time I'll see what's behind that door...