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Hey Cube,

I tried this method again this morning, I had some really cool dreams, 1 lucid but no OBE. I tried your HTML timer but I don't get any sound.

Any suggestions?

Happy Travels,

D.C.



Please tell me what web browser and operating system you're using so I can figure out why the timer doesn't work for you.

Without knowing exactly what you're doing I don't know what to suggest but I can mention again some of the things that work well for me. First of all don't move at all while you're trying to project, not even your eyes. Secondly conceptualize yourself walking around your house as you fall asleep, that will make you phase into an OBE rather than project.

That's easier to do because there are more things you can watch for such as extra hypnagogic imagery and so forth. Trying to project out of body has is more subtle so it's possible that you could project and not know it, so it's a little bit trickier.


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Cube I wanted to mention this, in case you forgot. Did you add my suggestion about running modified aura types? I know it helped a great deal for you. Eventhough its an advanced method, and possibly dangerous. It would help those looking for more consistency.

Speaking of which, has this helped with you at all? LOB might be interested, however have someone like myself or SD help guide the process, you know what Im talking bout



I haven't added your method about aura manipulation because I haven't tested it well enough to explain it to people. I have been practicing with it a lot, I usually gather my aura into a thick disk on my back and then bring it up through my chest and let it well over like a fountain. It's quite an odd sensation.

I find it's really easy to separate my feet and legs, it's harder to separate by hands and arms. However I've never been able to separate my aura from my head. I suspect if I can separate my head I'll project, so I think it's just a matter of practice.
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Dream Cadet

Cube,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have yet to perform either of your methods exactly. I have tried to use substitute alarms and such but something always misfires or interrupts me. I take responsibility for that. I tend to be more succesful the closer to your methods I get.  Once I do them correctly several times, I'll know where I need the work.

I believe you are so succesful because of your meticulous attention to detail.  I believe people sometimes underestimate the importance of the attention to detail.  One small change can mean the difference between OBE and no OBE.

I have one more question for you.  In the morning when I am practicing your methods, I go from hypnagogic imagery to a dream sequence.  It is of a computer screen in which words are being written.  I start trying to read the words. They keep changing.  After a few seconds, I lose the dream.  I realize early on that I have passed into a dream but I can't cultivate it into anything.  If I try to change anything, I change focus and exit the sequence.

Do you have any suggestions for being able to turn this into a full blown LD or OBE?

Once again, thanks for all of the time and effort that you have put into documenting your methods so that others may benefit.


D.C.

upstream

Very nice experience, Cube. For getting success with CC's "twin method" you have to reattach your dream body to your etheric double. You can do it from anywhere in a given dream provided that you are successfull in matching the position of your dream body with your physical. However, the most important thing is to regard your attempt as you would trying to project from the waking state. Due to the fact that you are dreaming you don't need more than a couple of seconds to get the state you feel before separation. This trick is not for RTZ-OBEs, it would wake you up from them. It is for lucid dreaming and intermediate experiences between OBEs & LDs (F21, F22 I think).

I've found that heavier subtle bodies are separated from below and I could fully detach myself in them by levitating my legs then doing a somersault.

I'm very interested in your aura manipulations - this is something that totally new for me. Please don't hold it back.


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cube

Dream Cadet,
Being meticulous is very important, it's also true that it gets easier as you go. At first it's like there's a tiny crack that you have to carefully insert your crowbar into, but once you have a big enough hole you can break out the sledgehammer and knock out bigger and bigger parts.

I've found that the vibes have started to come when I'm laying there but not intending to have them. Monroe and Robert Bruce write about OBEs they've had at night that they couldn't avoid. Once you've tuned yourself to stay conscious while going to sleep, the vibes come much easier and you can start dropping the use to crutches.

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In the morning when I am practicing your methods, I go from hypnagogic imagery to a dream sequence. It is of a computer screen in which words are being written. I start trying to read the words. They keep changing. After a few seconds, I lose the dream. I realize early on that I have passed into a dream but I can't cultivate it into anything. If I try to change anything, I change focus and exit the sequence.

Do you have any suggestions for being able to turn this into a full blown LD or OBE?



It sounds like you're on the verge of phasing. What you should be trying to do is go to sleep, wait for the alarm to wake you up, and do not move. At that point the feeling in your body will be a lot like when you watch your body fall asleep as in this:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13608

The goal is to have the alarm to send you straight into mind awake body asleep. The alarm will feel like it shocks you a little bit but as long as you don't let it force your to react by moving in any way you'll be in focus 10 automatically.

If you have that feeling, then you will be phased into an OBE within 30 seconds. Start into your visualization and intend to phase into your visualization. If you are visualizing the computer screen you talked about then that's what you'll phase into.

The imagery will become more and more vivid, and eventually it will become all that you perceive and you'll have phased.

If on the other hand you don't do a visualization when the alarm goes off but instead you place keep your awareness on your body and relax then you'll be able to get up out of your body when you separate.

Either way, you should try the "Who am I?/I am Dream Cadet." statement over and over that I mentioned in my earlier post. That will help you to keep your self-identity so that you get an OBE and not a dream.


upstream,
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For getting success with CC's "twin method" you have to reattach your dream body to your etheric double.



What's the difference between a dream body and an etheric double, I thought they're the same thing?

Also, can you give a link to the twin method?

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The etheric double is dreaming the dream body. The dream body become the etheric double when you match its position with your physical body, because the etheric double mimic the position of the physical body.

I've copied and pasted the excerpts below from CC's book the 'Art Of Dreaming':

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She said that the gifts she had given to the naguals of my line had to do with what the old sorcerers used to call the twin positions. That is to say, the initial position in which a dreamer holds his physical body to begin dreaming is mirrored by the position in which he holds his energy body, in dreams, to fixate his assemblage point on any spot of his choosing. The two positions make a unit, she said, and it took the old sorcerers thousands of years to find out the perfect relationship between any two positions.
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"Explain to me what you mean by the twin positions, or the initial position in which a dreamer holds his body to start dreaming." I said.
"How do you lie down to start your dreaming?" she asked.
"Any which way. I don't have a pattern. Don Juan never stressed this point."
"Well, I do stress it," she said and stood up.
She changed positions. She sat down to my right and whispered in my other ear that, in accordance with what she knew, the position in which one places the body is of utmost importance. She proposed a way of testing this by performing an extremely delicate but simple exercise.
"Start your dreaming by lying on your right side, with your knees a bit bent," she said. "The discipline is to maintain that position and fall asleep in it. In dreaming, then, the exercise is to dream that you lie down in exactly the same position and fall asleep again."
"What does that do?" I asked.
"It makes the assemblage point stay put, and I mean really stay put, in whatever position it is at the instant of that second falling asleep."
"What are the results of this exercise?"
"Total perception. I am sure your teachers have already told you that my gifts are gifts of total perception."
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This is a dream. You are at the fourth gate of dreaming, dreaming my dream."
She told me that her art was to be capable of projecting her intent, and that everything I saw around me was her intent. She said in a whisper that the church and the town were the results of her intent; they did not exist, yet they did. She added, looking into my eyes, that this is one of the mysteries of intending in the second attention the twin positions of dreaming. It can be done, but it cannot be explained or comprehended.
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The essence of her explanation was that if I were, for instance, dreaming of my hometown and my dream had started when I lay down on my right side, I could very easily stay in the town of my dream if I would lie on my right side, in the dream, and dream that I had fallen asleep. The second dream not only would necessarily be a dream of my hometown, but would be the most concrete dream one can imagine.
She was confident that in my dreaming training I had gotten countless dreams of great concreteness, but she assured me that every one of them had to be a fluke. For the only way to have absolute control of dreams was to use the technique of the twin positions.
"And don't ask me why," she added. "It just happens. Like everything else."
I dont believe him, but the method works.


darkheaven

hi...i tried this last night...i had an insomnia untill 4-5 am, then i decided to go in bed, set the timer (cell phone) to bip after 30-40 minutes, after in 5...10...15...i wasn't sleeping, i wasn't awake, the timer goes on, i stop it, after 5 minutes goes on, after 2-3 minutes the vibes start, not strong vibes, i sit there hopeing i'll get some sleep, and then i feel like my body was absorb(???)(going up, ripped like), i tried to sink, nothing....

i'm getting bored so i decide that i shoud try to raise in my feets so...im out, i'm trying to rip off my eyes cause the image was kind of blury...the eyes where glued...

ok...i'm going in to the kitchen and something hits me...I WANNA SEE MY BODY" so i turn around and try to watch at it...can't see...then i start to move up fast everyting is black and the only feeling is that i'm going really fast...then i'm starting to go down...i don't like the ideea so i wake up...

no this was not a OBE...this was a lucid dream...my 3rd lucid dream like this...i never had an obe...well i'll try this for a while now, but i'm kind of stuck because of the insomnia...


I'M VERY SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH...I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND...

Sentential

Glad my method works[8D]. I realize its a little difficult to understand at times, but it is the most advanced method. This is what I and SD and sevral other people do. Being able to do this however, is vitally important, since it is the basis for psionic defence. If you are gonna protect yourself on the astral, you gotta be a shifty little bugger, othewise you make yourself a big target.

You can only do so much in your native form. After awhile the uniformity begins to hurt your progress.

It can feel strange even painful, but changing your aura to suit your needs is highly effective. Just be careful. Dont wanna make a mistake [;)]

Sanuska

0.0 !!! This method works great!!! thank you so much Cube!! Ive tried every methid i could find and with no results, with this i got a load of strong vibs and stuff!! THANKS!!

cube

Note: I have an updated version of this method at http://saltcube.com/?t=rhythm-napping

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This is a very easy and effective technique that doesn't involve any mental skills or discipline. It's been 80% effective to send me into a projection over the last two weeks.

I call this the Rhythm Method method, it's basically the 'wake-back-to-bed' or 'interrupted sleep' methods on steroids.

All you have to do is confuse your body into the "mind awake/body asleep" state by alternating falling asleep and waking up in the morning. The morning is the best time to do this because your melatonin/DHEA ratio is optimal.

It is important to follow this technique to the letter! The times when I didn't project were when I was trying to tweak something. The 5/10/15 minute, etc intervals below are crucial.


The technique
Get a digital cooking timer, some silicone earplugs and an alarm clock. Make sure the timer is loud enough to wake you up through the earplugs. If you're using a custom timer make sure you use a high-pitched sound that will definitely wake you up each time. Low-pitched sounds probably won't wake you up even if they're loud.

Go to sleep at your normal bed time.

Use the alarm clock to get up two hours early.


If you are able to go back to sleep immediately when you wake, and you're not so hungry that it keeps you awake, then just go straight into the routine. However if you find that you can't get to sleep, then you should stay up for an hour or so while until you begin yawning and are tired enough to sleep again.

If you are hungry, eat something very light, not sugary and which won't give you cramps or make your stomach digest too exuberantly. A banana is good, a low sugar protein drink is ideal because it's easy to digest and takes a while to get through your system.


Set the alarm clock for your normal waking time. This is important because there's a good chance you'll oversleep using this technique without the alarm clock.

Put in the earplugs.

Make the following intentions to yourself:
1.) I will fall asleep easily and wake up ready to project.
2.) If I dream, I will become lucid and move into an OBE automatically

Set the timer for 5 minutes.

Try to fall asleep, it's OK if you don't actually make it in 5 minutes but at least relax as much as possible. When the timer beeps do a reality check because you may have projected without knowing it. My favorite reality check is to see if I can will my finger to stretch out and touch the wall.

The less you move your body the more effective this technique is, when you reset the timer practive so you can do it using only your thumb and without looking at it if possible.

When the timer wakes you up, do a reality check and set it for 10 minutes and fall asleep again.

When the timer wakes you up, do a reality check and set it for 15 minutes and fall asleep again.

When the timer wakes you up, do a reality check and set it for 20 minutes and fall asleep again.

When the timer wakes you up, do a reality check and set it for 25 minutes and fall asleep again.

Continue doing 25 minute naps until you project. Usually I will project inside the first 10 minutes of the first or second 25 minute nap. Every time the timer goes off do a reality check.


You will probably project doing this. After your projection, get up and write down what happened, then start over doing 5 minute naps, etc if you wish to project again. You must start over at the beginning, going back into 25 minute naps won't work.


What to expect
Whenever you go to sleep then wake up and don't move, and then fall asleep again, sleep paralysis is likely. Paralysis is the ideal condition from which to project because there's no mistaking the fact that you're in paralysis and if you know what to do you can't possibly screw it up. Simply begin breathing deeply until you project, you'll pop out every time.


Lucid dreams are also very likely, you can ask for a dream trainer (like an astral guide) to help you out of your body if you have the awareness to do so in the dream. Alternately you can enjoy the dream as is, or you can teleport back to your body and get up out of it to make it into an official OBE.


If you wake up and find you have the heavy feeling and vibrations, the safest ways to project are those which do not involve you moving your body. If you try rope or rolling out, there's a good chance you'll move your physical body and botch it. A better solution is to concentrate on the force of gravity to push you out of body.

If you are in a projection state, then you'll sink into your bed. Because astral sight allows you to see through things by controlling the depth at which you are focusing, focus on the ceiling or the wall as you sink into the bed. As long as you focus on the depth of the ceiling, your sight won't be blocked by your matress and you won't lose your sight to blackness.

Just sink about three feet into your bed so you know for sure that you've projected, at that point it's safe to actually move.


Your equipment
You want a digital timer that's easy to set and doesn't tick. Wal-Mart has one made by West Bend that I like for about $8.

This is kind of like the Wal-Mart one but you don't need to spend $25 on a timer:
http://www.comforthouse.com/comfort/kittimtripti.html


You don't absolutely have to have earplugs but if you use them then you might as well get the good ones. The best earplugs are silicone putty like these:
http://www.drugstore.com/qxp75090_333181_sespider/macks/pillow_soft_silicone_earplugs_value_pack.htm

Of all the earplugs I've tried those are really the only ones worth buying in my opinion. My ear canals don't seem to be the right shape for the others and I can always hear things through them. You can get them at Target.

When you put them in your ears don't roll them into a ball, just press them over your ears like the instructions say. If they go into your ear, your ear will get irritated and make slime to push them out and they won't stay in. You can put a little square of tissue paper over them so they don't stick to your pillow.


Gotchas
I found that if I'm a little bit cold I can't phase at all. In Journeys Out Of The Body, Monroe writes that 96.2% of his OBEs were while he was warm and only 3.8% when cold. So, before you start make sure you've got maybe an extra blanket or something.


Why I think this works
I've tried combining this with specific visualizations during each nap, and also staying up for various periods before starting the nap sequence. I've also tried getting up to sleep in a different spot than usual.

However, I've had my best success by just simply falling asleep in my bed as usual, thereby tricking my body into thinking everything is going as usual even though it isn't, I think by using the short 5 and 10 minute naps you program your body to expect them.

Your body does not like to be shocked into a waking state, so it gets you ready ahead of time. A lot of times if I set my alarm clock for 6:30 I will wake up at 6:25 because my body hates to be jolted like that.

So then when you go to sleep for the 25 minute naps, your body is thinking about those 5 and 10 minute naps you just had so it gets ready to wake you up. The fake out is that instead you stay asleep!

So there's your ideal condition to project, it's in the morning so you've got not much melatonin to make you sleepy but lots of DHEA to make you alert. Your body thinks it's time to wake you up so it readies your mind to awake, but when your body stays asleep it sends you into a projection!

The flip side to this is while your body is confused it will give up and not wake you up at your usual waking time, so if you don't use an alarm clock there's a good chance you'll sleep in an extra six hours.

As long as you get up and start moving around at your usual waking time, your body will not be confused the next day unless you want it to be and fake it out again.

I don't try to do this laying on my back because I can't sleep that way, so far it seems that keeping things simple and just falling asleep normally works the best.

Update:
Something I discovered this morning is that it's easy to confuse your mind with this one. It's possible that you will project but think you're in the physical, the timer goes off and you sit there fooling with the timer and the display doesn't make any sense and it's because you're in the astral!

Timer:
You can use this HTML web page I made that lets you program in an arbitrary timer sequence:

http://saltcube.com/timer.html
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