OBE questions

[T.L.]

"Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff."

Usually when or shortly before the vibrations hit I start to see through my eyelids. By seeing through my eyelids I do not mean seeing scenes or hypnagogic images but seeing into my room from the perspective of my body. Then after a few minutes this goes away I feel a sensation of movement then sight comes back after Im seperated. During separation as Im moving out I usually dont see anything until Im fully separated.

"A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?"

Yes. One of my first conscious exits ended up perfectly like this. Everything was in its place, my physical body was perfectly visible. I could read the clock on my wall perfectly. I could read mail that was laying about, absolutely perfect. This happens about 1 in every 2 or 3 projections for me. I think the more you use your analytical mind while out the clearer and objective the experience is. Chances are if you get out into what looks like your room but things are out of place, then you probably wont see your physical body either. If this is the case then you are probably recreating your room from memory subconsciously, like a dream overlay in your projection.

[soulslasher6]

"Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff."

Usually when or shortly before the vibrations hit I start to see through my eyelids. By seeing through my eyelids I do not mean seeing scenes or hypnagogic images but seeing into my room from the perspective of my body. Then after a few minutes this goes away I feel a sensation of movement then sight comes back after Im seperated. During separation as Im moving out I usually dont see anything until Im fully separated.

"A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?"

Yes. One of my first conscious exits ended up perfectly like this. Everything was in its place, my physical body was perfectly visible. I could read the clock on my wall perfectly. I could read mail that was laying about, absolutely perfect. This happens about 1 in every 2 or 3 projections for me. I think the more you use your analytical mind while out the clearer and objective the experience is. Chances are if you get out into what looks like your room but things are out of place, then you probably wont see your physical body either. If this is the case then you are probably recreating your room from memory subconsciously, like a dream overlay in your projection.

I read things can be even more clear than normal life. how is this possible?Anyone been to the akashic records? what was it like? (sorry for all my noob questions.) 

[ancient_one]

I remember reading this one story about a guy that astral projected when he was like 5 and got lost. Some elders found him and locked his astral abilities. Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff.

If you ran into the elders at that age, I am sure you would be freaked out enough to lock your own abilities.  But, as intimidating as they may be at any age, they are on your side.

In the beginning seeing what was around me seemed to be important.  But it is not so much now. Like others, I did see what seemed to be a view of my room, but some details were not as they really were- I would see a digital clock in place of my regular analog dial one- things like that.  At times, I seemed to be someplace entirely different.  At times, I lifted out and watched first my bed, and then the room, and then the house and city etc all recede from my view.  At some point, I would turn, or would be turned if I was being brought away- in the direction I was traveling.  Usually, the turning did not happen until I was nearing my destination.  Sometimes I can see through the entire trip. At other times I do not see anything until I arrive at my chosen destination. 

Are things clearer?  At times the places I go seem more real than this life.  It is like there is sharpness to the detail- or like you can see the object and its essence at the same time, instead of just the object as we do in everyday life.  One thing I remember thinking early on was that it felt so natural to be in that state that it felt familiar to me, and I could not believe that I had fought against the experiences starting as I had for many years. 

[soulslasher6]

If you ran into the elders at that age, I am sure you would be freaked out enough to lock your own abilities.  But, as intimidating as they may be at any age, they are on your side.

In the beginning seeing what was around me seemed to be important.  But it is not so much now. Like others, I did see what seemed to be a view of my room, but some details were not as they really were- I would see a digital clock in place of my regular analog dial one- things like that.  At times, I seemed to be someplace entirely different.  At times, I lifted out and watched first my bed, and then the room, and then the house and city etc all recede from my view.  At some point, I would turn, or would be turned if I was being brought away- in the direction I was traveling.  Usually, the turning did not happen until I was nearing my destination.  Sometimes I can see through the entire trip. At other times I do not see anything until I arrive at my chosen destination. 

Are things clearer?  At times the places I go seem more real than this life.  It is like there is sharpness to the detail- or like you can see the object and its essence at the same time, instead of just the object as we do in everyday life.  One thing I remember thinking early on was that it felt so natural to be in that state that it felt familiar to me, and I could not believe that I had fought against the experiences starting as I had for many years. 

What was your(or anyone's) first projection like? i'm planning on projecting today, i feel ready. Any tips on staying calm?

                       
                             
                   

[ancient_one]

What was your(or anyone's) first projection like? i'm planning on projecting today, i feel ready. Any tips on staying calm?

                       
                             
                   

Well, I have a blog out there if you want to see. It covers my progress from a very early stage beginning with SP. This one here was a breakthrough where I met my main guide, I guess you cold say.

http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/confrontation.html

Tips to stay calm? Well, not really. You will have to see it and react.  But, remember that as real as it may seem, there is nothing that can really hurt you physically.  That has been my experience anyway. 

[soulslasher6]

Well, I have a blog out there if you want to see. It covers my progress from a very early stage beginning with SP. This one here was a breakthrough where I met my main guide, I guess you cold say.

http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/confrontation.html

Tips to stay calm? Well, not really. You will have to see it and react.  But, remember that as real as it may seem, there is nothing that can really hurt you physically.  That has been my experience anyway. 

What made you finally decide to do it? i know nothing can harm me but its just how overwhelming everything is and if you do come across a demon the image is still disturbing.

[soulslasher6]

Ok this might be my most important question yet. When trying to project, if you think of a place, lets just say a grassy meadow for now. if you imagine your self at a grassy meadow and you pop out of your body, will you be at the meadow?

And lets say i do project. what if end up in some demonic world? will i return to my body automatically? will my spiritual guide help me?

[CFTraveler]

Ok this might be my most important question yet. When trying to project, if you think of a place, lets just say a grassy meadow for now. if you imagine your self at a grassy meadow and you pop out of your body, will you be at the meadow?

Nothing is assured, but it can happen.

And lets say i do project. what if end up in some demonic world? will i return to my body automatically? will my spiritual guide help me?

Well, demons don't just live in a world, they're in any lower plane, but they rarely bother with humans, so I wouldn't worry about it.  The only time I went to a hellplane I was taken by guides, and was perfectly safe.
If anything is not to your liking, all you have to do is think of your body, and you'll be back in a jiffy.

[soulslasher6]

I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?

So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.

[ancient_one]

What made you finally decide to do it? i know nothing can harm me but its just how overwhelming everything is and if you do come across a demon the image is still disturbing.

Why did I do it? I did not feel like I had a choice.  Whatever this was had been tormenting me (if you read the earlier selections of blog) for years. I just came to the conclusion that if I did not face whatever was causing the sleep disturbances I was having, that I might go insane. I felt like it was a threat.  It turned out that my "guide" if that is what it really is, had been trying to get my attention. When I ignored it, or tried to stop the experiences, it just tried harder to break through.  Like I said, 'he' was genuinely pleased that I finally acknowledged that 'he' was there, and even more pleased that I was "sitting" there waiting for it to show itself. 
As for demons?  I have never seen one. I may be scared at times, but most of the time now, and since this experience, I have had confidence that nothing bad could happen.  It does not mean I have not been scared at times, but these are few and far between and usually because I rush into the experience, or am not ready for it when it happens.   

[soulslasher6]

But still, like i said above, i just cannot grasp the idea of being a "ghost" or how its going to feel like?

[Xanth]

I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?

So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.

How can absolute freedom be the source for fear? 

You mention that you know that "nothing can hurt you"... yet it really doesn't sound like you *believe* it.

We can tell you over and over that this is the truth, but until you experience it for yourself, it's kinda meaningless.

Remember, the unknown is only unknown until you go there... in this case though, you ARE allowed to take baby steps. 
Put a toe into the water to test it first... see what happens.

[CFTraveler]

I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?

So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.

May I ask how old are you?
I ask because the fears you are expressing remind me of the fears I had when young (and inexperienced).  At some point in my life I was confronted by the very same things that you describe- monsters, demons, and was attacked and abducted and abused, filled with terror.  This caused me to research AP (because amazingly, I didn't connect what was happening to me with AP) and lo and behold, I learned to induce and control my projections.
Once I did it, I was confronted with scary stuff that was more theoretical and conceptual, and eventually dealt with it and got over it- the way that terrifies you- by experiencing and confronting the situations I was trying to avoid.
So, my advice is- if something as simple and 'nonpersonal' as vibrations scare you, and you fear that encountering any kind of 'baddie' will scar you, then maybe this is not for you- maybe you should wait until you think you are able to confront your deepest fears- because if you have them, I can almost guarantee you they will eventually manifest- so I recommend you do whatever you need to learn control, but don't attempt AP, because when it works you may be so scared that you may block yourself from ever experiencing it again, and when you are finally ready, you may not be able to.

[soulslasher6]

May I ask how old are you?
I ask because the fears you are expressing remind me of the fears I had when young (and inexperienced).  At some point in my life I was confronted by the very same things that you describe- monsters, demons, and was attacked and abducted and abused, filled with terror.  This caused me to research AP (because amazingly, I didn't connect what was happening to me with AP) and lo and behold, I learned to induce and control my projections.
Once I did it, I was confronted with scary stuff that was more theoretical and conceptual, and eventually dealt with it and got over it- the way that terrifies you- by experiencing and confronting the situations I was trying to avoid.
So, my advice is- if something as simple and 'nonpersonal' as vibrations scare you, and you fear that encountering any kind of 'baddie' will scar you, then maybe this is not for you- maybe you should wait until you think you are able to confront your deepest fears- because if you have them, I can almost guarantee you they will eventually manifest- so I recommend you do whatever you need to learn control, but don't attempt AP, because when it works you may be so scared that you may block yourself from ever experiencing it again, and when you are finally ready, you may not be able to.

Ok, Ok thank you everybody who has posted hear. I have officially gotten over my fears. Life's too short, live it to the fullest. I'm not going to let some little entity (that i can stop) ruin my projections, And as said above, why be afraid from freedom... I just need a good way to get out of my body, what am i supposed to do when my hands start tingling? Not the crazy vibrations just the tingling and numbness and stuff. I've heard of most all of the techniques, which one is the most effective and when do i do it?

[Xanth]

Ok, Ok thank you everybody who has posted hear. I have officially gotten over my fears. Life's too short, live it to the fullest. I'm not going to let some little entity (that i can stop) ruin my projections, And as said above, why be afraid from freedom... I just need a good way to get out of my body, what am i supposed to do when my hands start tingling? Not the crazy vibrations just the tingling and numbness and stuff. I've heard of most all of the techniques, which one is the most effective and when do i do it?

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Well, personally, I just relax, ignore the 'tingling' and let it do its own thing. 

[CFTraveler]

Each person has their own 'natural' preference for techs- that is, there is no 'one' technique that is the 'best' for everyone.
Having said that, I do a lot of relaxation, trancework, and then energy body loosening before doing an exit attempt, in that order.  For specifics there is the 'techniques' thread.  Try a few, see what works best for you.