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[astralrealmer]

Does anyone have easy ideas to get into the mind awake body asleep state.I have benn trying for so long.I tried a few of robert bruce ways and william buhlman plus robert monroe of course but i cant do it.I lay there for 2hrs expecting something to happen but doesnt.once in a blue moon i will get into the paralysis state or get the buzzing noises but not by choice.Many many years ago i used to get into the paralysis and vibration state by will when i would take naps or bedtime but i never followed through.Now im trying to get back into this again and to maybe have an astral projection for once.It seems that i cant get into the state anymore or maybe its not for me anymore.When i try my mind races to much also.Does anyone have any ideas whats wrong.....................................Thankyou

[dbmathis]

How long have you been trying after you got back into trying? Both William Buhlman and Robert Monroe state that you should try each technique for at least 30 days straight before moving on to the next? Have you tried each technique for 30 days straight each?

I think that the key to success for anything in life is persistence and an attitude of knowing that it will happen.

The ability to focus comes with practice, so I would just keep trying. Something that helps me focus better is ambiance. I sometimes turn on a box fan or I listen to BrainSync tracks. Once all of the distractions have been removed I just repeat affirmations over and over and focus only on the affirmations. When random thoughts come in, which they will, take notice of it and just regain focus and continue.

I hope this helps.

Best Regards

David

[Stookie]

There's nothing wrong, you just have to find the right combination of things that will work for you. Learn to deeply relax. Learn to enter trance. There are many good exercises for this here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics-b44.0/

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq-b46.0/

Honing concentration and awareness are very important for astral projection. For the average person, it takes a lot of practice and discipline to do it skillfully.

I suggest spending something like 40 or 50 minutes max at an attempt. Anymore than that might become more of a hindrance than being practice.