when I feel a negativity I return back to the body.

[greatoutdoors]

TVoS,

You posted this statement on another topic:

when I feel a negativity I return back to the body.

Can you explain this a bit more? Have you ever had that negativity follow you back?

Thanks!  

[Nay]

I'm not TVos, so hope you don't mind.  But once I was being followed by something that felt negative.  I just kept flying from one place to the next until I didn't feel it anymore.  I ended up at an old childhood home.   I can't say I've ever had anything negative follow me back to my physical.  Infact, I don't think I'd go back until I HAD lost it.  

[Doch]

I battled a neg in the astral two nights ago after it had tried to suffocate me somehow...anybody experienced this?  :confused:

[Vilkate]

Yup, Doch, I'm from the happy "Neg Beaters" club, too!

However, I think mine might had been a hallucination...

[Greytraveller]

I too have had several violent encounters with discarnates while out of body (mostly during ethereal (RTZ) projections). I am concerned about the possiblility of a violent encounter but am not afraid or scared.
The question that I have is this -
Is there any reason for this violence?? It just seems random and pointless, much like the random street crime experienced in the physicval world. So is there a bigger picture to any of this :question: In my experiences I have yet to find a reason for these seemingly senseless and random incidents of out of body violence.

[greatoutdoors]

Nay,

I am always glad when you post -- always worth reading!  

My few experiences with negative images so far have been easily sent packing by imaging an appropriate weapon. Once I mentally smacked a BEM with a flyswatter and it came back as a huge beast of some kind. So I imagined a really huge foot coming down on its nasty little head and that was the end of that!  

So far, nothing has ever followed me from the meditative to the physical, knock on wood!  

[Nay]

LOL!   A monty python foot!!  Love it.

[Vilkate]

Haha, weapons are funny to use!    My favourites for dreams are
1. a sword for close battles
2. a dagger for very close battles
3. Bow and arrows for long distance battles
4. and an Uzi - for fun.

[Nay]

Vilkate.. are you sure this is your normal dream weapons?   I don't have any set of "weapons"....LOL.  I can count on both hands..and perhaps a foot, how many times I've created a weapon.  That really is the last thing on my mind when I go to sleep.  

Do ya'll have a list of weapons in mind?  I've created keys once when I "wanted" a weapon and one wouldn't come to mind.  And for some reason, the last Zombies I fought, I created a shot-gun to kill them.  No doubt some memory from the game my oldest son likes me to play, which was Silent Hill.   I can't believe some of the games these days... that thing is scary!!  

I bet video games have a lot to do with what kids dream these days.  That is why I don't watch all these crazy, scary movies that come out now.  No way, do I want to have that kind of stuff in my head while flying around in the astral.

[Vilkate]

Well, they're my favourites, so, if I need a weapon, on of these (the most suitable) will appear. Besides, I'm quite fond of the medieval weaponry (swords, crossbows & stuff, they're beautiful), so no wonder I see them if I need them.
As for the Uzi... I guess I took it over from Counter Strike. :sad3: (yes, yes, I know, a horrible, mind- degrading game)...  

[Nay]

I've always had a soft spot for Medievil period myself.  May I ask you, Vilkate, how old you are?  I do not ask, to offend.  I ask for personal reasons.

[Vilkate]

19 and a large half.
I'm a wee little girl.  

[Nay]

 Us, girls rock.  I know, because my daughter says so.

[Vilkate]

:cheerleader:    You go, girl!  :cheerleader: