Near Death Experience...

beavis · October 23, 2003, 20:20:19

I had a NDE, but it was intentional. I ate amanita muscaria mushrooms. I had several conscious body exits, and went to a place where there appeared to be was no time or very distorted time.

jc84corvette · October 23, 2003, 20:22:50

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Originally posted by beavis

I had a NDE, but it was intentional. I ate amanita muscaria mushrooms. I had several conscious body exits, and went to a place where there appeared to be was no time or very distorted time.

Did your physicall body NDE?

beavis · October 23, 2003, 20:31:03

Yes it almost died because amanita muscaria is poisonous (like alcohol).

jc84corvette · October 23, 2003, 20:33:41

Why did you intend to have a NDE? I sure wouldn't.

beavis · October 23, 2003, 20:39:29

Because I wanted an OBE, and I got a great one!

Hyperdimensional · October 23, 2003, 21:22:12

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had a NDE, but it was intentional. I ate amanita muscaria mushrooms. I had several conscious body exits, and went to a place where there appeared to be was no time or very distorted time.

Hi Beavis,

What secondary effects you experiment after you come back to your physical body? Do you recommend the use of drugs or mushrooms to induce OBEs?

Best regards

jc84corvette · October 23, 2003, 23:09:30

He recoemends the huse of drugs

wizard · October 24, 2003, 06:50:26

I had a NDE about 2.5 years ago. Head on car crash on the highway - other driver fell asleep at the wheel. For the past 2 years I've been trying to have a conscious OBE. Read several books, practice as often as I can, but nothing so far.

That NDE was so real. I was looking at the cars lined up on the highway in both directions, from about 20 feet up, over the crash site. Everything was still. I had 360 degree vision. It was in my mind for a couple of weeks, so clear and profound. When I discovered that there are conscious OBE books and web sites, I was hooked on having the same experience while alive.

I think I'm getting close these days too. I can put my whole body asleep so I don't even feel it anymore. And then, with a clear mind, stay focused only on being aware. At that point I get hypnogogic imagery. I just stay with it, waiting. Nothing yet, but I'm focusing on ultra relaxation. I believe that the body needs to be so relaxed in order for the subtle astral body to disengage from the physical body and NO attention on the physical body is the trick. I feel so close.

I need to continue to practice though. Just as I do with lucid dreaming - only had a LD a couple of times. They were so vivid and incredible that I keep on practicing.

I do have a minor setback though. From the accident I received a traumatic brain injury. I'm on 5 medications from the neurologist. One, just started a few months ago, is for Parkinson's disease, meant to help with my facial tics. When I started that medication my vibrations went away. They used to be very strong just prior to exit. I don't sweat it though. I'm sure when I'm ready to start floating up from my body it will happen. I am determined. I know it is possible, that keeps me going. I also know that it happens every night when I fall asleep and all I'm doing is staying awake while my body sleeps so I am able to experience what is happening every night anyway. This forum has been so helpful!

shaman · October 24, 2003, 07:21:00

Thanks Wizard for sharing your experience in details. I hope you are getting better with time. Maybe you would like to have a look at the NDe site I mentioned in the original posting up there at the top.

Did you happen to go to the "tunnel" and see the "Light"? Did you interact with other people there? Or your NDE was mainly that part where you had a crystal clear OBE? There are many NDErs who after the OBE, they live to a higher "plane", have a kind of "life review" and then even meet with the being of Light. This is usually when they are told "it is not your time, you have to go back" and that they do not want to go back, that they have a feeling of peace and Love and they do not want to leave that place that feels like "home". Eventually they wake up back in their body just after, and they rarely told their story, by fear that people would just think they had just a dream or an hallucination.

To get out of body due to a trauma is very frequent, my brother had one as a kid. But to see other things is not as frequent, or maybe the memory of it is erased and comes back sometimes after years... I, myself, once fainted due to dehydration, and suddenly I found myself like in a well with people at the top of it looking down at me. I could not see any face, only silouhettes, but I knew they were deceasesed relatives looking down at me and asking me if I was OK. That's when I woke up from the cold floor and realised what had happened.

As to you Beavis, did you go beyond the physical world in your OBE part of your NDE? Did you meet your guardian? Did you post your experience somewhere on this forum?

Shaman The Dreamer

Sokrates · October 24, 2003, 08:43:28

Hi Shaman!
About nde and "happend to older people": Kennet Ring has written a book about kids having nde, so it´s only children reporting nde.
But about your mainquestion sorry can´t help you.

Best regards,
Sokrates

shaman · October 24, 2003, 09:12:13

Sure NDE can happen, and happens, to everyone, does not depend on the age, but older people with health conditions, have more chance to have one. So on an NDE message board there are more messages of older people than of younger ones, though as you said, there are also children's NDE.

wizard · October 24, 2003, 11:58:29

Shaman,

All that happened I've explained in my last post. No light, no tunnel, nothing that dramatic. Just a snapshot image that was so clear and profound.

The Wizard

beavis · October 24, 2003, 16:41:56

HyperDimensional What secondary effects you experiment after you come back to your physical body? Do you recommend the use of drugs or mushrooms to induce OBEs?

I ate them at night and was sick until I woke up the next day. Thats all. I recommend it.

jc84corvette · October 24, 2003, 18:47:34

Yeah but could you physically die?

beavis · October 24, 2003, 19:16:53

If I ate twice as much as I did, I might have died. I looked up the amount and measured it carefully.

KDC · October 25, 2003, 11:30:03

[xx(] I had an NDE in February. It was whilst I was APing but one of my mates shook me and it stopped.[xx(]
Luv KDC

shaman · October 29, 2003, 08:13:04

Hey,

I though that afterall many of you might be interested in that study about NDE. Here is a good link to the study, it is mainly an interview:

http://www.iands.org/dutch_study.html#how_to_find

There are also some links there to the original article in the Lancet journal of medicine (one of them is in pdf format, you will need acrobat reader to open it : http://www.zarqon.co.uk/Lancet.pdf )

shaman · October 23, 2003, 13:45:03

I know that many people here are pretty young and that many Near Death Experiences (NDE) happen to older people, but I wanted to check with you if anyone on this forum had an NDE, and if that person is also able to OBE. I know there are forums on NDE ( http://www.iands.org/ ) with a lot of info, but I was looking into the issue of people with previous NDE who actually OBE/AP.

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