Is it possible to have an OOBE upright and awaken

[stephen~]

Sounds a lot like the sensations of walking meditation. I have done this a few times myself, but never with the detail of effects that you get.
I can identify with the empty mind and focus on surroundings and also the feeling of there being something 'wrong'. I put this down to a sort of paranoia that creeps up on you as you feel distanced or seperated from everything around you although you are sensing it all at once perhaps like never before.

Some people do say that they have uncontrollable projections while wide awake and moving around at times, so I guess if anyone was going to come close to doing that consciously it would be you. If the head expansion is related to the expansion of your astral body (or whatever you want to call it) then it seems like all you need to do is continue as you are, but minus the fear, and you could project, in theory.

But it leads to the question, why would you want to do this? I can't think of any benefit in projecting while 'busy' and it is possibly dangerous? Also, when I have seen posts by people who project like this, none that I can remember were exactly pleased that it was happening.

If I could walk and project, I think I would prefer to walk normally to a park or somewhere, sit on a bench and then project.

[Rastus]

It's quite possible to achieve heightened states of awareness and still be physically fully functional.  I'm talking full Astral sight while making a sandwich ( don't look in the garbage [] ) kind of thing.  I remember a particualry interesting encounter with a mirror in this state, my third eye was glowing brightly, and I kept staring at it.  It took awhile to realise it doesn't 'blink'.

It also sound slike your slipping into the "NOW", seeing things as they are.  The fear is your mind, because there's no past/future for it to deal/worry about.  Outdoors are always better than indoors, more natural energy about.

[Dorian]

I've experienced huge vibrations reading on the web, pounding heart, and the body growing/rising sensation, several times, wide awake.  Very strange indeed.  Kind of an open eyed meditation I think though, aware, but mostly Im gone, if you know what I mean.  Quite strong sensations though.

[andonitxo]

Hello all,

your responses have been very valuable for me, really.

Answering to Stephen: I started up some lucid dreaming pre-works, as being completely aware of everything you do along the day in order to increase consciousness' level. But after a while I had the idea of including a mantram in the exercise (it seemed a more complete exercise this way) and this all popped up suddenly.

As there's no other way to know what the hell must happen I'll try to get to the end of the experience to know what is there.

Curiously watching people running around helps incredibly a lot. If I'm outdoors but I don't "feel" the contrast between the layers I'm not able to reproduce it.

Anyway the road where this all happes in is in my way from home to the office so I can try everyday.

I'll come back to relate anything which could be valuable for you all if I find out anything.

Thanks again for your assistance.

(I've edited this post to correct some grammatical mistakes, sorry).

[Eternal_Soulmate]

Hello andonitxo,

Spain greets Spain []

Not sure I fully understand what u mean but what I get when I walk around in public places is that it looks like I actually can feel them walking past me... Don't really know how to put this, its like I get a flash about who they are how they think, unfortunatly too quick to be able to "decrypt" it...
Is it something like that what you experience?

Sometimes I feel very restless...especially in big crowds and if there are bad energy's or thoughts... don't know how to name them

Greetings (Saludos [] )

[andonitxo]

Hiya Eternal_Soulmate,

Never thought I was going to speak in english with a spanish buddy [], so greetings from Bilbao.

What you tell me is quite similar to what use to happen to me, and I've concluded it because the more people walking around me and the more feeling I have. Trying to wake that sensation up, outdoors, in a non crowded place I have but a failure.

The visual effect is very similar to what happens when staring at an object in red against a blue background; both of them seem to separate in space (it can be reproduced in a computer screen: draw a red/blue circle in a blue/red background and stare at it for a few minutes without blinking).

When I read of LD techniques I got caught up with one which adviced to fix attention on moving things along the day, because it's easier for the brain to think of actions and colors rather that fixed landscapes.

Anyway I think I've not yet all valor I should have to finish the experience (fears I didn't know of emerge from subconscious mind, and i didn't know of them till now). And suddenly my projection capabilities have increased to that point that I've rubbed success this last days.

Perhaps you're a very empathic guy when feeling bad thoughts, but believe me, just imagine one thing and it'll materialize. Imagine bad thoughts and they'll arrive, imagine a good mood and it'll form. I suppose there's no other way to know the source without projecting and watching it directly.

Have you ever projected?. I did. Once

When I'm tired I use to sit down, calm my mind down and practice an exercise called "skin respiration" (by Franz Bardon) in which as you breath in you imagine energy getting into your body. Practice it first off part by part (feet, ankles, upper legs,...) and lastly merge them all in one. It perks me up a lot and in 10 minutos my energy levels are restored.

It's been a pleasure to talk to you [] and would like to have some feedback from you [].

Greetings - saludos - agurrak

[Eternal_Soulmate]

[] Hello again...

Well I to have only proyected once... strange thing was I had been trying for years to induce it from the awake state but without success.. the furthest I could get were the vibrations... and as they were so heavy I allways panic, also I have a problem when I stop feeling my breathing
One day I had a lucid dream...total control, I "said" to myself this is the moment to try an O.B.E! Jumped of a van wich was part of my dream and there I was... In my body concious of where I was, but I couldn't feel anything and started to be able to move a bit...turned over... heard a strange sound like air been sucked out of my ear and there I was! next to my bed...no vision till I thought about seein.. and my bedroom apeared to me... but very different! Everything had like a silver or pearl glow around it...and I could hear a high frequency tone all along...
To move I only had to want it... so I had a look trough my roof window, I was very curious to see how I looked, so I moved my hands..but I should have remembered what I read in Monroe's book ..If you move like you would move your body "muscle based" you are immeadiatly drawn back to your body...
So I got pulled back...I could feel the texture of my blackets get trough me and clicked in...opened my eyes... no loss consiousness...
Looked at the clock, was only 30 min in bed..early in the morning after a night shift working.

Stupid thing is I didn't try to induce it after that.. I should have done it when it was still fresh

...this is my story []

Nice to meet you.. Greetings from Malaga []
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[andonitxo]

Hi there,

I think I related in another post an experience I had some months ago. In that, repeating a mantram while walking, I had odd feelings and sensations, as when losing consciousness.

The interesting point in this tale is that I've identified the conditions needed to reproduce it again so, right now, I'm able to induce by my own means.

The process goes this way:
1.My mind is more or less empty, focused on my surroundings while walking outside.
2.I start to feel like if something is wrong in all that stage I'm watching, specially if I'm in an open place (in closed places it doesn't happen).
3.Then, automatically, my attention gets fixed in the people walking around (a condition that must be fulfilled) and it seems as if they're splitted from the stage, as if with a FX program you separate two layers. As I have deduced my mind needs this two layers to realize...
4.Finally my head seems to expand, my body gets lighter as to have a floating sensation and my sight gets sharper.

This is the last point I've been able to attain. Fear pops up rapidly (a subconscius like one) and I ground inevitably so the feeling disappears.

Hypothesis are many: some kind of awakening, a cut in consciousness' flow,... etc... but my question is if there's any kind of probability of astral projection in all this story.

Thanks for your assistance.