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Quote from: GrumpyRabbit on July 12, 2020, 18:34:39Thank you, Lumaza and Athensis! This is all really helpful. Also, it brings a few more questions to mind.I'm thinking of those accounts of people having NDEs or being thrown from their bodies due to a shock trauma, like a car accident - they, too, float above the scene and look down on themselves. I know that people who have these experiences, whether they are unconscious or clinically "dead", can report with great accuracy conversations that were going on, things happening in the hallway, etc. So, it seems like it must be possible to truly be in our world, just floating around like a ghost (as it were) - right?If so...how did that happen? How did they leave their bodies, but still be HERE and perceive things so accurately? Is there a way that, with time, we can do that, too?And, just wondering what everyone's theories are about why these inaccuracies happen. Like, do people/experts in this tend to think it's more on the side of "we don't have sufficient skill to perceive things accurately" or, "The Powers That Be are not letting us see things accurately for some higher reason".
Quote from: Fourthdimension on July 12, 2020, 21:22:02The projections just came to be so surreal to be trueA lot of my experiences have been quite 'scary' (dont really wanna use that word but it dumd tjings up quicker)Now i try not to project but often find mysrlf popping out during the night and left feeling unerved.
Quote from: LightBeam on July 12, 2020, 19:44:31 in the NP there is no space time continuum, everything exists here and now, the only difference is where is our awareness tune to. And we observe it as a point in time from our perspective.
Quote from: Lumaza on July 13, 2020, 00:22:26In a NDE you have already abandoned or are still in the process of abandoning your "physical vessel" for good. Now you are in what they call in Buddhism the "Bardo" state.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35GrumpyRabbit,Wow, a lot to unpack here. I spent two hours last week and an hour last night typing responses to this and another thread of yours only to have my computer crash and lose them...what frustration! I'm on my IPad tonight.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35Quit thinking about OBE from a "physical" perspective.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35a type of feedback distortion similar to hypnogogia or sleep paralysis (hence the guy who pestered you with unhelpful comments).
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35 Fun, right?!
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35 The later ones, the Phasing types...they are cleaner and more clear; difficult in new and different ways, but a step up.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 13, 2020, 06:01:35If you want some real fun, try looking into a mirror.
Quote from: GrumpyRabbit on July 13, 2020, 18:22:27Lightbeam, does this mean it's theoretically possible to tune our awareness more clearly to our physical reality here on earth?
Quote"If you want some real fun, try looking into a mirror."
Quote from: Nameless on July 15, 2020, 00:39:00About the mirror. Mirrors have probably pretty much the same meaning for all of us. Look in a mirror and see your true self or an alternate self. GR what I'm saying is don't be discouraged by the "Harlot". This gives you a clue 'where' you are and this version would have something to teach you.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on July 15, 2020, 23:00:01Mirrors can be very unpredictable for many possible reasons. I have seen my 'normal' PR reflection; I've seen a ghostly, etheric, 'full of stars and colors' reflection; I've seen a fairly gross PR version that was stripped of the outer skin layer, revealing the underlying musculature and ligaments (Summerlander has an excellent rendering of this in the 9th page of the Members Artwork thread which later validated my experience for me). http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/members_artwork-t23514.200.html I have also seen no reflection at all, which was confusing and disturbing. In cases like these, I think the mirror is unusually reflective of our subconscious mental state at the time. I've also used a mirror as a portal; so what omcasey and Nameless said about the rabbit-hole, YES! Both metaphorically and literally, lol!
Quote from: Nameless on July 17, 2020, 04:35:06Omg, LightBeam that's funny and just like you! LOL Most of the time I just assume I look however I'm supposed to for the part.
QuoteDuring another AP, I was walking alongside a street with many shops. I saw my reflection in one of the windows as I was passing by.