astral projection free course

[SiN]

Thank you! Thank you! I never knew they had such places in Toronto! I've been searching for some time now... and was just about to give up!

I just hope that this isn't a sham... and that it's safe. Do you know anyone that has already taken the course? Online or at the actual workshops? Cause, although I want to believe that everything's all good and safe, the sceptic and cautious side of me is questioning...

[Parmenion]

I just started the course this week also.I signed up for it months ago though so you might have to wait a bit to start.It does look very good so far.I was going to see how it went before letting you all know. Still, no harm in signing up i suppose, theres no obligation. Ill keep posting here about my progress as the weeks go by.Wish me luck![8D]

Parmenion

[Epsilon]

I signed up for the astral travel course a year ago but never followed through with it.  I want to try it again.  Has anyone tried the self-knowledge course?

[rodentmouse]

ive  taken  all  online  courses..

the  astral  course  is  ok,  to  be  honest it never helped me.   I think  the best  literiture on OBE to  date is  astral dynamics  by  far.


the  self  knowledge  course is  the most interesting,  it  made me  question  myself,  question  why  i  say  the  things i do,  question  why i beleive  what  i  do,  question what  is  behind  all  the  choices  i  make  etc....


i  lost  interest  during  the  esoteric  course,  for  one  they  already  assume  you  are  a  proficient  astral  traveller  by  then.
Plus,  i  think  that  mark  prichard  guy is a bit  to  sure of  himself  in  it,   he  says  that  without  self  knowledge  we  will  go  to a place  called the  "abyss"  where  we  will  be  engulfed in  torment  (sound  farmiliar?)  

he  also  sets  down  some  "rules"  about  how  to  be  spiritual  and  how  you  should  act  if  you  follow a spiritual  path.  Not  literally,  but  thats  what  i  got  from it.

he   explains  the  nature  of  life,  death,  existence  etc  as  if  they  were  fact,  without  encouraging  us  to  find  our  own  truths and  i didnt like the  way he  did that,  thats  what  i liked  about  Astral  dynamics,  Robert  encouraged  that.

[goingslow]

Someone from here was nice enough to email me all of the course so i didnt have to wait for him to give me piece by piece.

I dont want to say anything negative about the course cus if you actually project off of it its invaluable.

But that mark guy does do the "this is the way" thing a lot.. he really seems to think of himself as really advanced and knowing the way.  That turned me off a little..

Im doing the self knowlege one though just to see what its about.. if anyone has that saved i'd appreciate seeing that one too.

[Leviiathan]

Wow, Weagle! Thanks. I'll surely look into this.

[weagle]

sin: personally if you want to learn to AP you have to learn from someone who knows already and is experienced since they will help you achieve your goal.  They have those live courses in the public library. There can't be anything wrong with that but then again it all depends on who's teaching it, is it a person that has done ap before?  But still nontheless you can do the online course for free and the author seems to know what he is saying so far in his perspective when you compare to others ie bruce's work etc..

rodentmouse: when I took the ap intro course I noticed that there is even other mind expanding courses you can take ie self knowledge or esoteric so this may get even more interesting because its other stuff that branches out from ap/lucid dreaming.  Can't wait to try those courses too.  And of course you have to respect a persons belief even you believe he's wrong.  But still though anyone who can AP its best to learn from them, you may get something out of it.  If you learn from those who pretend they know how to ap but nevered ap'd in their life is a waste of time, same as it's a waste of time watching tv evangelists on tv who are not spiritually enlightend themselves mostly material enlightend.

goingslow:  still I wouldn't hold to only that guys techniques as being the only one and I still would disagree with him saying body awareness exercises cannot make one AP, I did it once successfully just doing body awareness so he's wrong there and also in lucid dreaming ie body vibrating a lot just walked out in one dream proves body vibrations are also important (which body awareness helps you do) and they say it makes you concentrate on you physical body but personally it also helps you concentrate on your body double/etheric body that helps generate it.

[Albert]

hi weagle, I remember you from ld4all (Pilot)
seems very interesting
let us know how it goes

SiN, what does Toronto have with this? There does seem to be a centre there, but retreats are only in Australia, if I'm not mistaken.

[don_the_mystic]

For some time now Robert has been encouraging me to post a message on his forum.

When this particular post was bought to my attention about an hour ago, I felt it was time to make the effort and actually sign up.

Before I go any further, I need to point out that I am a personal friend of Robert Bruce and research mysticism and human nature.  *Some* of our research overlaps, however, I will *always* bow to his knowledge in the areas of Astral Projection and Psychic Self defence and can highly recommend him as a source of learning.  We have had many a debate that has carried on to the wee hours of the morning.

Without wanting to sound judgemental, I can understand how people get the impression from the author of the mysticweb.org that he is a little staunch on *the right path*.  However, I can also understand how he has found a *truth* for himself and is zealously trying to share it with the world and doing that with a blind driven sense that it must be *this way* to work.

I understand both points of view, and have been guilty of both in past years.

What I have discovered is that every path is the right one, and that all paths ultimately lead to the same point.  The outcome is determined by the seeker, not the guide.  In the many years of guiding people using the same methods (albeit refined) I can honestly say that no two people have done it like any other.  

There is no *THE* path, there is only the path that you choose to be right for you.  If you are a genuine seeker of knowledge, you will find the answers you seek no matter where you look, even if you confine your looking to a dictionary or a newspaper.

What is the point I am making here? It is quite simple, don't look for the faults or flaws or even the gems in each person offering the gift of insight into your enlightenment.  Look for those things within yourself.  Those around you are merely shadows and reflections of the *I* you have buried somewhere inside you.

I LOVE YOU ALL,

Don

[Adrian]

Greetings Don!

Thank you very much indeed for your opening post, and big welcome to the Astral Pulse forums [] I am delighted that Robert was able to encourage you to post here, and we will all look forward to many more inspirational posts from you.

Interestingly, we have a very similar discussion to this topic taking place in the Astral Pulse Spiritual Development forum:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3452

I have also added MysticWeb to the Astral Pulse links, it looks like a worthy site, and seems to ne truly dedicated to the cause of assisting people in these important matters in its own particular way.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

[SiN]

weagle: I hope there isn't anything wrong with it. I'm going to call later today to ask some questions. I signed up for the online course as a 'just in case', but I'll have to wait for another 8 weeks before I receive anything.  

Albert: I know there aren't any retreats in Toronto (well, as far as I know), but that doesn't concern me. I plan to take the live course at the public library that they're going to use. That way I learn first hand.

don_the_mystic: I agree with you that there is no one right path to take. All I know is, that as long as they (from mysticweb.org or anyone else) don't try to enforce their beliefs on me and that whatever they tell me don't clash with my morals, I'm okay with it. I'm open to others' opinions, even if they vastly differ from my own. Whether or not I learn to embrace them is always up to me. I think we just need to filter out what doesn't make senses to us, and stick to whatever does, and always stay open to other ideas. And that was a very lovely first post.

[Tom]

My internet connection at home is not working right now. I have the entire astral projection course from mysticweb at home. It is mostly files in pdf form along with a couple of mp3 files and a small program to play mp3 files. The e-mail sent weekly is just to notify people that the next thing is ready to be downloaded. Maybe at some point I will actually read the course.

[don_the_mystic]

Adrian

Thankyou for your kind words.  Robert has spoken highly of you many times.  I am led to believe this is your work?

SiN

All of life is about filtering what is relevant and what is to be discarded or evolved for your growth.  It is a truly amazing experience that I am humbled and full of fascination and anticipation at the next step each and every day. Thankyou also for your kind words.

Tom

Have you considered that perhaps your fears relating to your childhood and shutting down your belief in YOU as a person has a lot to do with why you haven't yet looked at the program???......  It is what I sense from you.

[Adrian]

Dear Don,

quote:Originally posted by don_the_mystic

Adrian

Thankyou for your kind words.  Robert has spoken highly of you many times.  I am led to believe this is your work?

Thank you in turn for your kind words []

If you are referring to these forums as my "work", then yes, it is indeed my work such as it is, thank you very much for asking.

BTW everyone - Astral Pulse enjoyed 3000 postings in February alone,a new monthly record despite the short month,  and on behalf of Robert, myself and the Astral Pulse team I would like to thank you all for your continued valued contributions []

With best regards,

Adrian.

[Tom]

"Have you considered that perhaps your fears relating to your childhood and shutting down your belief in YOU as a person has a lot to do with why you haven't yet looked at the program???...... It is what I sense from you."

Yes, I have considered this possibility and have posted to that effect before your arrival here. Not that I think you got the idea from my previous posts. This is just to say that I am open to the idea that it is true. However, as this seems likely to move off-topic so quickly, I will switch to a private message.

[Celeste]

Hello Don

_{All of life is about filtering what is relevant and what is to be discarded or evolved for your growth. If you are a genuine seeker of knowledge, you will find the answers you seek no matter where you look, even if you confine your looking to a dictionary or a newspaper}.

  At times I have begged the Universe to send me my True teacher that can guide me on my way.
Thank you for these reminders. warmly, Celeste []

[weagle]

Sin what is there to be afraid of?  You can go there just learning the techniques, you don't have to suck in everything a person has to say you have the power to choose what you accept and what to reject and it's not like a cult where you have meetings every week, after the course is over its over you don't go back again.  I screwed up my astral projection once because I was afraid of seeing the astral for the first time in a conscious state (no filters whatsoever like in lucid dreams) and I screwed it all up because I was chicken because it was a new experience and it was VERY different than anything I've seen in the real world.  I'm never going to do that same mistake again when I have another opportunity to go into the astral/real time zone again thats for sure.  So long as the guy teaching the course is not a professional hypnotist (grin) but you'll see anyways. Freaky to see, one time they brought one to our high school he literally hypnotized ten students on stage at the same time some of them were my friends, he literally told them they are this and they are that ie one guy he said when he sits down on the chair the chair is hot as a stove, he sat down and he screamed ouuuch, other guy he said he was a comedian character and he was saying silly things on stage, another girl he said she was a stripper stripping on stage.  But they say these things are temporary they don't last forever only for a day or so if its a suggestion from another person but it was freaky to see a professional hypnotist not a BS'er one.  I doubt you will come under that condition if you watch the show penn/teller Bulls*it almost every show they showed a BullS*it hypnotist (ie ufo regressions/breast enlargements etc..) they never worked just sucked their money and fooled them after 10-30 sessions at $90 a pop.  This astral projection is a free course, there is no strings attached.

quote:sin: weagle: I hope there isn't anything wrong with it. I'm going to call later today to ask some questions. I signed up for the online course as a 'just in case', but I'll have to wait for another 8 weeks before I receive anything.

[SiN]

Wow, I wish they brought a real hypnotist to my school... though, if I did participate, s/he probably wouldn't be able to influence me, but it'd be hilarious if s/he could! Hmm...I've never seen that show before! Or maybe I did, oh wells.

quote:I screwed up my astral projection once because I was afraid of seeing the astral for the first time in a conscious state.

Yea, I've screwed up mine (even though they're all spontaneous) because of that fear. I hope that you become successful in all your AP attempts ^_^.  

Anyway, it's not so much that I'm afraid that it'll be that I'll have to make an obligation and join a cult (ooh...) or something... it's just that I don't trust easily, and I feel as though I'll be vulnerable (if I happen to AP and not stay in the RTZ), cause anything can happen, ya know? I just have trust issues, don't mind me ^_^.

I'm glad this course is free...but, as the saying goes, "Nothing in life is free." I think that's my mentality about it, it's also probably why I'm feeling very doubtful.

I see you're a Canadian too (go Canada! Err..um), so why aren't you going to the actual workshop (that is, if you live in T.O)? ...

I called the place, and talked to the instructor. He was more than willing to talk and answer my questions...I think he talked a little too much, cause I was kinda getting nervous... he told me that we weren't going to be hypnotized, just shown techniques...but you never know @_@...  I hope the guy isn't a professional hypnotist though ~_~.  Oh, and he had an accent! Accents are so cool!... I wish I had an accent *_*

[weagle]

quote:
Wow, I wish they brought a real hypnotist to my school... though, if I did participate, s/he probably wouldn't be able to influence me, but it'd be hilarious if s/he could! Hmm...I've never seen that show before! Or maybe I did, oh wells.

well he wasn't able to hypnotize everyone he did some sort of test,
he knew who is or who is not hypnotizable, I believe half of them weren't. It was funny when we were seeing this I was sitting  beside my french teacher who took us to see this during our period, she was literally saying in her french language diabolos (you know what that means in english).  I don't blame the woman for saying that, anyone who messes with another persons mind be it directly (hypnotist) or magic (long distance) if you leave the guy in that state then you are evil no doubt or practicing witchcraft/pharmakosis (brainwash) but atleast the hypnotist he removed those things and he also allowed those people to remember what they did on stage not immediately though after a few hours so they don't have a shock on the stage!  

quote:
I'm glad this course is free...but, as the saying goes, "Nothing in life is free." I think that's my mentality about it, it's also probably why I'm feeling very doubtful.

get to know the teacher, what type of character he is if it's free he must be some humanitariam or someone who likes to do charity in life which is a godly character. I know most are not like that though, they are the complete opposite, deceivers or BS'ers.

quote:
I see you're a Canadian too (go Canada! Err..um), so why aren't you going to the actual workshop (that is, if you live in T.O)? ...

I called the place, and talked to the instructor. He was more than willing to talk and answer my questions...I think he talked a little too much, cause I was kinda getting nervous... he told me that we weren't going to be hypnotized, just shown techniques...but you never know @_@... I hope the guy isn't a professional hypnotist though ~_~. Oh, and he had an accent! Accents are so cool!... I wish I had an accent *_*

As a matter of fact it is an hours drive from where I live, only problem is the classes are at 7-8pm. I work during that time if it was from say 9:30-11pm or in the daytime or say on the weekend at different hours daytime hours I'd go. Maybe they should videotape the whole session and then stream it on the internet or something for those who can't go.

[SiN]

Diabolos, indeed!

Yea, it is pretty nice for someone to take time out of their own life to instruct people for free

quote:As a matter of fact it is an hours drive from where I live, only problem is the classes are at 7-8pm. I work during that time if it was from say 9:30-11pm or in the daytime or say on the weekend at different hours daytime hours I'd go. Maybe they should videotape the whole session and then stream it on the internet or something for those who can't go.

Aww, that sucks. Work...I think I'll be needing a job soon -_-''. Yea, maybe they could videotape the whole sessions...as long as I never see MY face in it(-_-'''), I think they should too!

[weagle]

I just signed up at http://www.mysticweb.org there is no catch they actually offer online free courses on effective methods of astral projection (20 page course per week, 8 week course with lessons/practice/theory), some I already know but I bet there maybe other methods that I don't.  They just started with the 1st week online course today, I think you can still register to get it this week otherwise you have to wait after 8 weeks to start again.