Sleeping problem after trying to AP

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Mydral

Well first off I have the second degree in Reiki, meaning I supposendly will let energy flow into things when I lay my hands on them.

Now when I try to AP I place my hands on my chest and so energy will flow into me. Previously I thought that this will help my tries but I am starting to doubt it because of the following:
Whenever I stop because it didn't work or so I am completly relaxed and I feel if I could go to sleep easily but I can't. Its like I energised myself or something because I won't be able to sleep after I tried to AP.... its very annoying.
The last time I tried the weirdest happened. I was doing the mind awake/body asleep thing with my hands on my chest and it wasn't working so I told myself that I should just go to sleep normally. I could feel myself drifting off when all of a sudden my finger taps me hard on my chest.... I seriously had no control over this and didn't feel my finger till it tapped me. I could literary feel my mind and body powering back up again..... and of course aftewards I couldn't sleep.

So should I maybe stop putting my hands on my chest? I can't decide if the Reiki is acctually preventing me from AP and giving me this restlesness when I don't want it or if its something else.
Any input is appretiated.
In somnis veritas

Zante

This sounds interesting. Can you please explain what Reiki is to those of us who aren't sure?

There was a time about a year back when I was offered a "remote attunement". I decided I'd give it a go but really didn't know what it was about, not in great detail anyway. I don't know if it's related but the next morning I woke up to see a black void with what I can only describe as a bunch of animated white symbols in the foreground.

There're a lot of people floating around claiming to be a "x level Reiki master" and it makes no sense to me. I don't understand why it's appropriate to overcomplicate something that seems so simple in concept. Where does this "master" stuff come into it for instance?

I may be getting the wrong idea but there's a lot of conflicting information out there. What's your take on it?

EqualThoughts

i also had some trouble sleeping for a while until a few nights ago when i had my first WILD. i find i can sleep really well now if i just lay in bed in a comfortable position, as if i was going to sleep. what i do is just picture random things in my minds eye and focus all of my attention on the visualization. pretty soon you cannot feel your body anymore and you will be in a full blown dream state. hope this helps you to sleep it helps me alot.

-Thoughts
Beware of those who weep with realization, for they have realized nothing.  -Don Juan

andonitxo

That uses to happen to me too, specially if I practice some Monroe's techniques. But it changes from day to day, maybe because of my body/mind's exhaustion in that precise moment.

But I've started to think that it's a matter of brain waves. Brain's state changes after hearing one of those tapes and that, inevitably, must affect the dream process.

Reiki doesn't work with that intent. I tried too and it didn't work. For the folk that doesn't know what we are talking about, reiki is the art of redirecting energy from the source to achieve some cure. You put your hands on a sick thing, ask for reiki and it enters into you from your head, down the throat and heart, and there it flows through your arms to your hands. There are other types of reiki, as the crystal one in which you put an energy crystal in some part of the body, that's what I use to try to improve the process, even if I haven't felt a mayor difference.

What I use to do when there's some brain alteration which doesn't let me dream correctly I take advantage of that state and project myself into different stages mentally. That way I improve my mental projection capabilities till I'm so tired that I fall asleep.

Mydral

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Quote from: Zante on October 17, 2006, 17:54:37
This sounds interesting. Can you please explain what Reiki is to those of us who aren't sure?

There was a time about a year back when I was offered a "remote attunement". I decided I'd give it a go but really didn't know what it was about, not in great detail anyway. I don't know if it's related but the next morning I woke up to see a black void with what I can only describe as a bunch of animated white symbols in the foreground.

There're a lot of people floating around claiming to be a "x level Reiki master" and it makes no sense to me. I don't understand why it's appropriate to overcomplicate something that seems so simple in concept. Where does this "master" stuff come into it for instance?

I may be getting the wrong idea but there's a lot of conflicting information out there. What's your take on it?

Well if your interested in Reiki: http://www.reiki.org/FAQ/WhatIsReiki.html

People who claim to be a master have been attuned to the 3rd degree. 4th degree is the latest and then you can attune others.

By the way I am talking about the Usui Reiki. There is also Kundalini Reiki. For more info: http://www.kundalinireiki.com/

I don't like this kind of Reiki because a lot of people say that its "stronger" then Usui.... that the first attunment is as strong as Usui Reiki levels 1, 2 and 3 combined. Personally that just sounds like a market trick to me... and they say they will attune you over long distance. Usui Reiki attunments always happen person to person.
In somnis veritas

andonitxo

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I've been attuned to both. Traditional usui reiki has only 3 levels, not 4. In the first you are energetically aligned and your upper chakras are strengthened so that the source energy can flow down, that way you can heal yourself.

In the second one you can heal others and do distant reiki. In the last you're transformed into a master so you can initiate others.

Kundalini reiki has 9 levels. It is far stronger that the traditional usui one. It uses no symbols, so it's a more intuitive reiki, I prefer it, and it's true energy flows more quickly and strongly.

You can be attuned distantly by any system. The only prerequisite for it to happen is to let the attunement take effect on you.

There are also the so called empowerments, a kind of an attunement in which your aura is aligned to a certain vibe which gives you some features.

Look for the group "EnergyWerk" (yes, wErk) in yahoo groups.

But for sure, reiki's energy tastes different compared to that sucked in the NEW system, and you need far less effort to obtain it.

Zante

QuoteBy the way I am talking about the Usui Reiki. There is also Kundalini Reiki. For more info...

All you're giving me is links to different pages with lots of other peoples descriptions. I wanted to know what you believed. I don't care about names, energy is energy. It seems people want to complicate it by assigning names and "levels" to it...I don't understand why it's like this. It just seems highly limiting from my perspective. "Reiki" is very old, I believe it's time to realise this. The reason it's adopted by some new age advocates is because it makes it easy for them to integrate the idea of subtle energies into their own belief system(s). That's all well and good but I've seen people get fanatical over the whole thing. Why limit oneself to believing that an attunement is even required to promote healing in someone? I don't understand it. No one has been able to explain why this is to me.

It's about expanded consciousness. To apply a human standard of awareness to it would only limit it, surely. It feels very strange to see people advertising their Reiki credentials and throw about titles like "master". The whole thing seems like the ego trying to define worth out of something immeasurable.

What're your thoughts?

Mydral

The only reason I was using it was to make people understand easily what I am supposed to do.

Personally I don't really care about the degrees. Its all the same anyway, its the same energy etc.
I'd normally never refer to my level or anything and I don't measure myself with it.

Also Reiki is like a booster into this whole thing. If someone helps you activate chakras etc. it should go faster then if you try it on your own. Acctually my mind is split on this since I don't feel any different from before I was attuned to now. But it might work for some people who never meditated in their lives before.

I also think that most of the people who have these levels and acctually say they do, also don't do it for their Ego. It is for something else which is as bad.... materialism. Most of the Reiki treatments and attunments do not come free.... and the price is also not that cheap. I can understand why some do it, like people who use it as their main source of income, but others should do it for free.
But sometimes taking money for the treatments and attumnets is also for the greater good. For alot of nonbelievers it acctually makes it easier to do it since in their minds if they pay for something it has to have some kind of value. Ultimately they will understand later on what its really about.
In somnis veritas

Awakened_Mind

If you are having trouble trying to project wtih your hands on your chest, take them off.

The best method to assist in projection is rehearsal. You mind has different parts of memory. For example you have procedural memory which remembers things like walking, riding a bike, projection etc. Also parts of your memory that remember information about yourself, such as your name, family etc. You are probably familiar with cases where people remember their names but still remember elementary skills such as walking (there are more types and subsections of memory but I'll be focussing on precedural at the moment.) Keep practicing exit techniques as you have in the past. This will store the exit procedure in your long-term subconscious memory, making it A LOT easier to project.

Reiki energy and astral projection are two different processes. During projection, your hands and feet draw in ambient energy that provides your energy body with the adequate amount needed to generate the projected-double. In Reiki practices, the energy is going the other way.

Basically what I'm saying is to separate your projection and Reiki practices.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.