Near-death study Dr sam parnia

[desert-rat]

Actually the name Mark MacDonnell doesn't sound correct to me, the politician I had in mind was someone fairly famous. It will meaning pouring over my old AP books to try to find the name. But I will have a quick look to see if can find it!

This is the name on pg 49 of the book I listed.  It states he appeared in the British house of commons for 2 days , while his body was helpless in bed .  He recorded his vote in an aproved manner .  It is possable that it is just a story , or the name could be off a bit .  It is also possable that the British removes references to this event . desert rat 

[catmeow]

Hi desert-rat

OK, so I found the case you mentioned, in H F Prevost Battersby's "Man Outside Himself" P13. Incredibly you can read the relevant parts of the book here, with Mark Macdonnell's name highlighted:

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HnR4fAhGJ3gC&pg=PA13&lpg=PA13&dq=dr+mark+macdonnell+mp&source=bl&ots=oIucT09yz0&sig=Jq0OAiofjEzR4N9yS80bfWE7cU4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4aU9Ub_NHIOv7AaJq4CIAQ&ved=0CCgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=dr%20mark%20macdonnell%20mp&f=false

He says:

"Dr. Mark Macdonnell was another who, while ill in bed, appeared in the House, was seen by fellow members on two consecutive days, actually entered the Division Lobby and recorded his vote. ... The case of Dr Macdonnell did, indeed, come in for a certain amount of comment in the Press, but seems not even to have been a nine days' wonder."

Dr Mark Macdonnell was a British MP for the constituency of Queen's County Leix between 1892 and 1906:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen's_County_Leix_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/mark_macdonnell/queen's_county_leix

That's what a quick Google search returned. He was a real MP and his doppelganger appearance was reported in the press at that time. He apparently recorded his vote whilst ill in bed. So either an impersonater who looked like him did it, it was a real AP, or else it is just some kind of folklore.

Personally I am amazed that you can read the book on line.

[desert-rat]

Some one appearing in there astral body before the British house of commons should be proof of the astral body , but as this was a bit over 100 years ago , I dont know if ever one would accept it .  I guess some one would need to be witnessed before the U.S. congress or the U.N. in there astral body .  "The chair recolonizes James ****** form AZ  (me) "  that would be interesting . desert rat 

[ChopstickFox]

They'd probably be labeled as a terrorist :/

[catmeow]

OK so I bought Sam Parnia's book "The Lazarus Effect" but haven't had time to read it yet. I can say that Sam Parnia knows his stuff. The book has a bibliography at the back, of suggested reading, and this lists about 500 titles and publications, concerned with cardiac arrest, brain death, consciousness, soul and NDE. The book looks interesting, and towards the end, there is a chapter on the AWARE study.

Skimming through this, there aren't many results given, the AWARE study results are now due in September/October 2013!   However, there are anecdotes from medical professionals which are clearly puzzling.

This link

http://www.horizonresearch.org/main_page.php?cat_id=279

explains that the AWARE study is ongoing and will be expanded in the future, rather than shut down, in order to get more results.

What do I make of this?  Firstly Sam Parnia is clearly a believer and a man on a mission. I'm guessing he had some interesting results from the AWARE study, but not sufficient for general release at the moment. He keeps pushing the end date back, in order to get more (or perhaps any) conclusive positive results. If Sam were a committed skeptic, he would have shut down the study years ago and announced failure. But he isn't doing that.

He is going to get the proof he believes in, even if it takes another decade. There are many doctors, who like Sam, have seen things they can't explain in cardiac arrest patients...

[desert-rat]

As I pointed out in other posts on this thread Dr Raymond Moody has done a lot of research .  http://www.near-death.com/experiences/experts03.html     but more research would be fine with me .  I have wondered if the o.p. of this thread was Dr Sam Prnia , or some one on his research staff . desert rat