The best method

[Michael_E]

Ive had the best luck with catching it in progress as i am falling asleep. A kind of keeping mind awake but body asleep mentality and letting it happen naturally. The problem with this method is that you dont have much conscious control over when the projection occurs, but ideally if you could really get into the whole mind awake body asleep feeling thats sometimes all it takes. The good part about this way is that it is very simple and doesnt take much effort, the projections that you would be catching in progress are happening naturally you are just along for the ride.

[upstream]

Getting up after about 6h sleep (+/- 2h) then making mindblank on my goal, checking my body and try to feel for vibrations regularly (at first periodised by breat counting, then) or at times when i catch myself forgetting what i was doing or watching pre-dream pictures, hearing noises or music. And let it go, of course.

Intent, balance & special mood is required. No full-prof method exists. We are all different.

[MaDroX]

hey upstream, what do you know when you catch yourself forgetting what u were just doing? What does it tell you?

I'm asking because I have that pretty often when I go to bed... Just start to think about something and a second later I forgot what I was thinking.. And often there are also thoughts that just "pop" into my head.. like words or sometimes even a whole sentence.. (they make little to absolutely no sense) what does this mean?


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[upstream]

The voices as manifest in various debris of sentences are often the end-result of over-tiredness and emotional stresses.  I think the origin of those voices are micro-seizures in the secondary auditory cortex, and have nothing common with the hypnagogic music heard in the preseparational stages of most OBE. Prolonged wakefulness will increase theta activity in the temporal lobes.

The deactivation process of the cortex follow a very specific, but slightly personal route. In general, it will occur from anterior to posteriol direction. The hypnagogic phenomena is marked by increased EEG-power in the delta band (in the background of alfa-theta activity of course). In the case of kinestetic hallucinations the frontal/prefrontal cortex hold the epicenter of delta activity possibly resulted in muscle jerks. Then, this activity sweeps in the temporal and occipital area coincide with the emergence of visual hallucinations.

Yes, I agree, it is boring, but this knowledge can be very useful to creating a working protcol for OBEs. If we have known by which sensory modalities and in which stages of the sleep onset we would have to focus our mind on, people would be project more easily. For instance, the activity which power the hypnagogic images mostly comes from the motoric centres of the frontal lobes (remember, the general trend of the deactivation process), with great emphasis on the areas concerned with speach. Regarding my experiences, stopping thinking (and of course, moving) before assembling the liberated activity in the temporal lobe by imagining voices and surface contacts with dream walls would be such a route, especially if applied in interrupted sleep.

Your original question is dealt with the possible causes, but it would be more important to explore the possibilities the phanomena can be used for, I mean, the practical aspects of splitting consciousness. Now, as I reread your post, I see this was your main interest.

I have to humiliate my fellows in Worms 3D, but if you still interested, I'll write something about too.

[Phong]

Out from dreams. There really is no other beginner's method. If you can't do that, there isn't much hope for you, but you're welcome to try!

[tysonblake]

Which astral projection method have you had the most sucess with?  I am looking for a good method.