The Frank Kepple Resource and success

[tmd86]

The posts by Frank are without doubt the best resource for me personally that I have come across in what must now be 2 years of OBE awareness and research. I must have read 1000 of his posts in one week.

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/tag/frank-kepple/

This site has a lot of Franks stuff, which I've just realised belongs to Xanth who is a mod on here I think. Thanks to him and whoever else has been involved for the efforts to gather all of Franks posts and other information. Really, really helpful site.

Franks approach to this whole phenomenon will suit anyone who just doesn't get along with mystical terminology and the like. It's a no nonsense engineers approach as I see it.

Despite spending £200+ on the Monroe gateway CD's, I no longer use them at the moment and have more success by simply intending to move my focal point of awareness to the correct place in my mind.

I lay down to go to sleep on Monday and decided to give it a go. Without thinking about my body at all, I simply focused on relaxing my brain, imagining hands massaging it, and a path opening up to the Astral, that's all I did and just waited. This really is a good technique as it takes you away from your body naturally as you focus on your mind. Within about 10 minutes, I was feeling a pull, a bit like I was ready to be catapulted off somewhere but with an elastic band just holding me back. I let things continue to happen and had the very clear sensation of what can only be the 3D blackness pulling itself around me. Boom! I was there and I KNOW it! I got a bit nervous if I'm honest and shook myself back to physical awareness pretty quickly while kind of half pretending I needed to note it down, but in reality I'm just scared to go for it. Next time it's on!

[|Anthony|]

I never knew Frank Kepple as he came way before my time on these forums, and outside of reading his archived posts that I might come across here and there, I really have little interest of meeting him or not (if he's even still alive). It's not good to get caught up with one individual which can turn into a cult following for them. It seems Frank Kepple and Thomas Yuschak both hit the Astral Projecting/Lucid Dream subject by storm...made a big impact with people...than vanished without a trace.  Thomas Yuscak founded "Advanced LD", wrote a few articles based on test subject about Galantamine's affect on lucid dreaming, and published a book about using such herbal supplements to induce lucid dreams/OBEs (Advanced Lucid Dreaming: The Power of Supplements) and then disappeared without a single word never to be seen or heard from again shortly after his book was released in 2006 (which became a major seller amongst LDers and still sold on Amazon although by now its research is outdated). T.Y. even shut down his AdvancedLD website. Seems F.K. vanished in the same fashion over here. So I don't know; it seems some people come and than just vanished without a care so I wouldn't get overly caught up with them. I would give credit to yourself for reaching a goal. If you succeeded...than you succeeded!

[tmd86]

Fair comments. No surprise that he had a following as his info is so good. I'm certainly not going to get caught up with any individuals, I am aware that this must be my own path. FK is just another name on my journey. I just think there is so much rubbish about that its good to point people towards good information as much as possible.

[Astralzombie]

Frank did have a fantastic way of removing all the mysticism out of AP which can be a major turn off for many, including myself.

He was here and long gone before I came around here but his insights are brilliant. From reading his posts, I think he would be the first to say that no one should idolize him for his experiences especially since everyone can easily have their own.

However, there's nothing wrong with giving credit to the people who help us along the way.

[|Anthony|]

I agree about giving credit to those that help you on a journey (and credit to yourself). I did that a lot in college. Totally agreed. It's when the individual gets caught up to the person to the point it's a god-like following. It happens a lot especially within metaphysics.  That's why I mentioned Thomas Yuscak. When his book on lucid dreaming supplements came out it in December 2006 it was like the bible to lucid dreaming was just sent down from heaven itself. LDers were going nuts with it as the supplements and supplements cocktails mentioned were believed (and in many ways do) cause and easy lucid dream. His website was up for about two years prior with pdf articles he wrote, and subject test charts using Galantamine. Then TY disappeared a few weeks after the book was released, and never was seen or heard from again to this day. His webpage went down, he wouldn't return emails, and he just vanished. I didn't know him, and at the time wasn't interested in supplements.  I didn't even read the book into this year but people were like going nuts over him. I hate when newbie LD/APers whom think I'm also a newbie tell me "I don't or do it because it says so in Yuscak book" or "read Yuscaks book" . The book was well written, as was his articles, and he was an engineer.  But now the book is outdated (as with science and medicine the results, studies, research, tests can show changes or new findings so other volumes or updates needed such as any long term affects using Galantamine as a LD supplement), but it was pretty bit hit when it first came out.  No one knows why he disappeared after that book was released. Scott Stride another one involved with lucid dreaming and supplements (youtube videos called "LDS Tutorials", and helped TY with his book) also vanished around 2008 abandoning his accounts. Odd...maybe it's a government conspiracy haha just kidding. Or maybe they just don't want the over attention and following or headaches of hearing "but it didn't work for me".

So...its good to learn from such people, but also find your own path, and be proud of yourself for doing such on your own. You can do it without them. You learn, study, experiment, and fail but eventually (hopefully) you'll succeed (Im talking about LDing in this case). You don't have to go by everything they say...you don't have to agree with all their views, etc.

I don't believe Kepple, Monroe, even psychology has taken the mysticism out of some areas of parapsychooug or out of LD/Aping. There's still a lot of unknowns, and it still begs the question...does consciousness exist after physical death when the brain/body dies? Does LDing and APing give us any signs or indication of this? Psychology has answered how we LD from a neuroscience standpoint...but science still cannot answer the question as too...why we dream and what is the purpose? Why does our subconscious hold answers to life issues that our conscious can't figure out? Theories exist but that last question no one has yet to know.  Is there more going on in the physical or even in the universe is another question?. This universe is gigantic and houses billions of galaxies. Is there more going on behind it all? We don't know...that's what makes it mysterious (and you don't have to have any religion to believe so like me. I'm in the few whom love parapsychology but believes those "Seth" books are garbage and Jane Robson suffered from mental personality disorders or a fear of death so she made all that Seth stuff up). These are avenues NDE researches also observe (and I'm not talking about new age gurus and Hollywood actors turned psychics).  Let's face it...it's still a mysterious topic when you can't go to work and say around the water cooler "hey I think I left my body last night and traveled around the street" or "I had a lucid dream where I was aware I was dreaming and kicked that prick control freak of a boss of ours in the private parts and watched him cry like a six year old girl". People would look at you like you're nuts unless they knew about these parapsychological/psychological topics.

[Lionheart]

All these books on the topic should be taken as a "guideline" or "blueprint", but they are not written in stone.

By using many of these different techniques, you can formulate one that works for you.

Because in the end, it's YOU that are attempting it.   

[|Anthony|]

I could not have said it anymore.

(Although in regards to using legal over the counter herbs or suppliments (example being Galantamine or Huperzine A) I recommend using them as an alternative source and not become addictive or rely "only on" suppliments to induce an AP/LD experience which even Thomas Yuschack's book states).

AP/LD has many techniques and its still has plenty of myseriousness behind it all.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

I agree with Lionheart. I think Franks claims should be used as a general guide, and we should try them out and experiment ourselves with these ideas. But they are by no means the only or best authoritative source on APing and LDing. There is no one size fits all for everyone. I think some of Franks claims still need much more research. But his claims give us thought provoking insights into the nature of astral projection.

Peace.

[tmd86]

I agree about giving credit to those that help you on a journey (and credit to yourself). I did that a lot in college. Totally agreed. It's when the individual gets caught up to the person to the point it's a god-like following. It happens a lot especially within metaphysics.  That's why I mentioned Thomas Yuscak. When his book on lucid dreaming supplements came out it in December 2006 it was like the bible to lucid dreaming was just sent down from heaven itself. LDers were going nuts with it as the supplements and supplements cocktails mentioned were believed (and in many ways do) cause and easy lucid dream. His website was up for about two years prior with pdf articles he wrote, and subject test charts using Galantamine. Then TY disappeared a few weeks after the book was released, and never was seen or heard from again to this day. His webpage went down, he wouldn't return emails, and he just vanished. I didn't know him, and at the time wasn't interested in supplements.  I didn't even read the book into this year but people were like going nuts over him. I hate when newbie LD/APers whom think I'm also a newbie tell me "I don't or do it because it says so in Yuscak book" or "read Yuscaks book" . The book was well written, as was his articles, and he was an engineer.  But now the book is outdated (as with science and medicine the results, studies, research, tests can show changes or new findings so other volumes or updates needed such as any long term affects using Galantamine as a LD supplement), but it was pretty bit hit when it first came out.  No one knows why he disappeared after that book was released. Scott Stride another one involved with lucid dreaming and supplements (youtube videos called "LDS Tutorials", and helped TY with his book) also vanished around 2008 abandoning his accounts. Odd...maybe it's a government conspiracy haha just kidding. Or maybe they just don't want the over attention and following or headaches of hearing "but it didn't work for me".

Wow, very mysterious! Thanks for a great reply. I'd guess that such people just get frustrated with the attention. I had wondered why FK disappeared and thought perhaps he had too much of a cult like following. Maybe an astral friend advised them to back away and let others work it out for themselves. That's what I like to think anyway