Aliens - Fears - WHY ?!

[Shaper]

hello, Tao
I think there's no clash between opinions. I would not argue against the fact that fear gives you some physical energy. Very chaotic though. You cannot channel or focus it - therefore you are forced to do what the fear tells you. Run, for example. After fear passes you can hardly remember what motivated you. Therefore, IMO, the energy you get while afraid is not fear itself, but instead spontaneous counter-measure trying to combat fear (drain of your spiritual energy), very animal in nature. If you are able to combat the fear and get rid of neg trying to attach itself to you, you are left with free will. Which does not mean you won't decide to run [] sorry for lame energy definitions I used.

[goingslow]

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

Well I would talk to the aliens if they just gave me a chance. According to Mr Bruce in PPSD, Greys are Negs. Just like demons, astral snakes and spiders, et cetera.


Later
-FT

Unless Im mistaken which is unlikely [], RB didnt say Greys are negs.  He did state some neg's are "Greys".  He pointed out the fact that just because they are advanced in many ways doesn't mean there wouldnt be some that would be negs.  Its sort of like that thing.. rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles.. or the other way around.  I dont know rectangles..

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

Hey.

According to Lyssa Royal of the book Preparing for Contact , much fear of aliens is ingrained in the earth human mass mind, from they genetic alterations they did on the very early strains of our species, to make us. 'Abductions,' probes, etc, affected the mass mind to the point that it lingers, and we can get over this fear by taking our power, integrating, and seeing that the majority of 'aliens' are friendly. I am from an alien race, incarnate here as human to help here, for instance. []

Take care.

[PeacefulWarrior]

I think most "aliens" people see are actually non-physical entities that appear in "alien" form because it is the image that most modern human beings have come to associate with "the other" and with fear.

Think about the fact that people always used to see faries and trolls and demons...and now they see aliens.  It has to do with the human consciousness and how the mind interprets things/entities and/or how the beings themselves want to be percieved.

I believe in "alien life" but I am very skeptical about actual physical beings visiting our planet.

[beavis]

Shaper is right that fear can easily drain your nonphysical energy. I dont let fear control me. I let it tell me what I might want to pay attention to, and if I choose, use its physical advantages like adrenaline.

[Shaper]

Thanks for understanding Beavis

[Tao]

Yeahhh... I like that idea: people see what they want to see - in our "modern" world they see aliens and in "dark ages" they used to see trolls (nice).

But my question among others was WHY does fear exist ?

Re,
Thawon

[beavis]

A coward animal and a brave animal see a tiger running to them. Which one will be around to evolve? Thats why fear exists.

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

The coward runs of fear...

The brave runs of understanding...

big difference. []

[beavis]

I meant the brave one has less fear and the same intelligence. He runs less and gets killed more. The best amount of fear in animals was found through evolution, and thats where we got it.

If you let fear control you, you are taking advice from a stupid animal.

[Tao]

I got your point beavis.. thanks for the replys


Re,
Thawon

[zakaroth]

Getting back to the original topic: Are there creatures that feed off of our fear?

Of course- if we can all accept that 'energy' be it described as chi or whatever, runs through every living thing then that can be used as a basis for what I am about to say:

*ahem* right,
creatures have evolved all over the globe to take advantage of food- be it meat, fruit, high leaves on trees, if there is a source to extract energy from, there is almost certainly an animal to take advantage of it, well imagine if the astral plane(s) have been evolving for as long, if not longer, as we have, it would be logical that entities living on that plane of existence would take energy from sources- and lets face it, human emotion is one big, never ending source,
however it doesnt end with fear- we can see that many demons 'feed' off our energy- succubi for example feed off lust, how many reports have I read on here of 'frendships' with astral beings? What if they are just using you for your friendship emotions, however it would also be logical to feed off of the most prevalent emotional supply- and when a human encounters something new- what does he feel- fear,uneasyness, anxiety or anger- even in one case- i read months ago about a woman whom, upon entering what she felt as a 'forbidden' place, was chased home for punishment- having secret knowledge she 'stole' taken from her mind- what if that creature was simply having a delicious banquet of curiousity and a nice after dinner teror dessert? I am not saying that friendships with astral entities are a bad thing, they assisst both entity and human, however experiences which leave a person afraid, MUST be stopped, if there is a way of combatting such practices they must be used, for only in this way shall the astral become an easily accessible area for us all.

[Tao]

I would like to show you this chat(my nick is EL_Cid):
[19:11] <El_Cid> Icewolf have you ever APed ?[19:12] <Icewolf> APed, OBEd yes
[19:12] <El_Cid> wow[19:13] <Icewolf> i kinda qit it
[19:13] <Icewolf> quit it
[19:13] <El_Cid> why ?[19:13] <Icewolf> cause of weird stuff happening
[19:13] <Icewolf> too much fear
[19:13] <Icewolf> etc
[19:13] <El_Cid> really ?
[19:13] <Icewolf> yep
[19:13] <El_Cid> will you try it again ?
[19:13] <El_Cid> well ?
[19:14] <Icewolf> maybe
[19:14] <Icewolf>
[19:15] <El_Cid> when ?
[19:15] <El_Cid> i mean
[19:15] <El_Cid> fear - come on - you can beat this excrement !
[19:15] <Icewolf> well
[19:15] <Icewolf> waking up middle of night paralyzed with alien beings in your room
[19:15] <Icewolf> its too much for my soul
[19:18] <Icewolf> i can simply tell you its most scary thing you can ever see
[19:18] <El_Cid> aliens - maybe it`s your imagination !
[19:18] <Icewolf> they are probably designed to fear us
[19:18] <El_Cid> yeah
[19:18] <Icewolf> so they can feed themselves with fear
[19:19] <El_Cid> do they look like you imagine an alien ?
[19:20] <Icewolf> typical grey ones I think
[19:20] <Icewolf> but they were pretty much whiteish

So the question is: Is there someone who programs this beings to scare us so they can feed with our fear - or it`s just our imagination ! - (he said he never thought about aliens when he tried to AP)

Thawon