Was out alot longer this time!

[Jeff_Mash]

Heeeeeeeeey Naaaaaaaaaaaaay,

Great post!  You hit on a lot of points that many of us still deal with after years of projections: the crawling in the dark, travelling at fast speeds with no direction, etc.

I notice that sometimes, when my energy is low (?), it's harder for me to separate.  I almost have to FORCE myself out and crawl away from my body to avoid its strong magnetic pull.

However, if I return, it's usually easier for me to get out the second time, simply because my mind is now fully immersed in the OBE-environment, and I'm not going through the same mental transition that one goes through when he's still groggy.

It's kind of like when you wake up in the middle of the night to go pee.  The first time, when you wake up out of a deep sleep, you're walking kind of sideways and bumping into things.  But if you lay back down for a few seconds and then get out of bed again, it's much easier.  =)

And about flying in the dark at fast speeds, I still suffer from that.  I agree that a HUGE part of it has to do with no specific intention when you're out.

If you think about it, even in the physical, our minds are constantly jumping from place to place, topic to topic, etc.  The only reason why we don't buzz all over the place is because we're confined to this physical body.

But in the astral, we don't have that restriction!  So once we are out, if we aren't focused and in control of our thoughts, we may start zooming in many different directions at a fast rate of speed, which can be terrifying to those who aren't familiar with it.

The only way I have been able to break out of that situation is to imagine myself going someplace specific and expecting to arrive there NOW.  I just hold an image of my destination and imagine myself landing there.  Sometimes this works, other times it doesn't, but I'm still working on it!

Great post!

[TheSeeker]

Awesome Nay.  I remember reading in Astral Dynamics, or maybe it was the Astral Dynamics worksheet... anyway, he said that you should think of a destination to try for so that if you do conciously AP, or randomly AP, you have some direction.

But, I can imagine that when I do AP for my first time I'll be so excited that I won't be able to think of anything but the moment.

[Nay]

Thanks you two!  Yay, it was great..I have noooooo idea why I wasn't thinking of somewhere to go..[]  Apparently the ceiling hurtle was the only thing on my mind..oh, well..I always say I am easily amused..lol.

Jeff, great point about the energy and having to crawl..that makes lots of sense!

Do you also deal with heaviness sometimes?  When I first started I was ALWAYS heavy..so heavy that I could never even get out of my physical..but that is lots better.  

I just love the fact that I have these hurtles (well, don't love having them) but I love getting past them.  And one by one, I am getting past them. []

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[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Nay
Do you also deal with heaviness sometimes?  When I first started I was ALWAYS heavy..so heavy that I could never even get out of my physical..but that is lots better.

Every now and then, I feel a heaviness, but I attribute this to my state of mind.

For example, a lot of newbies feel a heaviness because their mentality has never experienced an OBE before, and they have to deal with so many things at once, like the flood of emotions, the flood of "what to do" thoughts, etc.

The better a person gets at this, the more they learn to control their thoughts and emotions.  This reduces a lot of the burden of separating and makes things easier.

As a really bad example, imagine trying to lift one of your kids up.  If you just go up to him and scoop him up, it's not that hard, because it's one fluid motion and your intention of picking him up is strong.

Now imagine slowly picking him up.  I'm talking like lifting him an inch or so every second.  He would be a LOT heavier, and the whole lifting experience would be harder to control.  You may only get him partway off the ground before having to put him back down.

I think our astral bodies react in much the same way.  If you just relax and have a strong intention, you can *usually* easily separate.  But if we have a little of our minds rooted on the body (vibrations, erratic thoughts, etc), then it becomes harder (and heavier) when getting out.

[Nay]

ONE of my problems have been staying out of my body for any length of time, but this morning was quite pleased with my efforts.

I wasn't trying for a projection but woke up in the middle of vibrations and just went with it.  First thing that I notice where my hands and arms were out, I raised them in front of me and waved them about..LOL, I wish I would stop playing with my hands, I have no idea why I find them so fasinating, I guess it is because they look different and they are outlined in silver.

I managed to crawl out of my physical, and once away I stood up.  My vision wasn't all that great, but hey I wasn't in the pitch dark..yet.

The first thing that came to my mind was to go thru the ceiling, another thing that I have been having problems with accomplishing.  I rise up and "bang" I hit the ceiling and float back down.  Ok, so that didn't work and I shoot for the window, I make it out with no problems!  Now I am outside, but not in my neighborhood??? Well, guess that made me a little excited and Poof I am back in the physical.

The vibrations where still there and I just get back up, and it was much easier this time.. I didn't have to crawl, I wonder why is this? (hopefully someone can tell me why) I decide to try for the ceiling again, and wow..was that a weird sensation! and once I got thru it, my vision went totally black! and I started rising up pretty fast. I was saying in my head.."oh, noo I hate going this fast"

I read Action Matt's post, and from the replies he recieved it seems that I had no destination in mind...which I didn't, so once I got thru the ceiling, well...that was that..hehe. I can't believe not once did I think about API!!! arrrggghhh..this would have been the perfect opportunity!!

That pretty much was it, I went back in my physical after thinking of how fast I was going and layed there for awhile thinking about what just happened.

I find that the no destination seems to be a big key with  it.  And why in the world was I not thinking of anywhere else to go?  I guess I was just so dead set on getting thru a ceiling that nothing else came to mind..but next time, since that hurtle is over with I will do alot more exploring!!

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