What am I doing wrong ? How do i get sleep paralysis ?

[M4RT1N]

I've been trying to AP for about a month and i can never even get sleep paralysis i always just feel numb in my arms and legs. This is what I do

1. I sit in a sofa because i have to keep swallowing if I'm on a bed
2. i tense a part of my body for 5 sec then release and do that to all parts of my body from feet to head
3. take slow deep breaths until I'm completely relaxed
4. keep saying a word or a phrase in my head
5. keep relaxing (still doing 4)

i sometimes do this for up to 2 hours

what am i doing wrong ?  

btw will listening to binaural beats before doing this help ? or do i have to listen to it while doing it ?

[todd421757]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/can_i_get_a_proffesional_opinion_on_this-t38375.0.html

The link above has a similar discussion as yours. You may benefit from some of the information there.

[Astralsuzy]

I did not reply to the other thread so this is what I think.  I think what you are doing is fine.  The reason you are not able to ap is probably because your mind is not relaxed enough.  Your body is probably relaxed but it is not enough.  Your mind has to be relaxed otherwise it is a lot harder to do or it does not happen.  To solve that problem I listen to a CD of the rain, thunder and wind.  I used to be up all hours without results until I started listening to the CD.  If your mind is relaxed you should be able to ap without any problems.  It also helps a lot if you believe you will ap. 

[Astralsuzy]

One more thing, I would advise you to forget about the sleep paralysis.  If it happens it happens.  You can ap without getting sp.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Sp, the older you are the less you get it. Thats if you've ever experienced it in the first place.

[Stookie_]

I've been trying to AP for about a month and i can never even get sleep paralysis i always just feel numb in my arms and legs. This is what I do

1. I sit in a sofa because i have to keep swallowing if I'm on a bed
2. i tense a part of my body for 5 sec then release and do that to all parts of my body from feet to head
3. take slow deep breaths until I'm completely relaxed
4. keep saying a word or a phrase in my head
5. keep relaxing (still doing 4)

i sometimes do this for up to 2 hours

what am i doing wrong ? 

btw will listening to binaural beats before doing this help ? or do i have to listen to it while doing it ?

It seems like all you're doing is relaxing. Once you're relaxed you have to move into trance and then use some sort of exit technique. But you can't just lie there waiting for something to happen... you have to make it happen.

[M4RT1N]

It seems like all you're doing is relaxing. Once you're relaxed you have to move into trance and then use some sort of exit technique. But you can't just lie there waiting for something to happen... you have to make it happen.

so how do i get into the trance ?

[Boom]

Yeah sleep paralysis is like the border between physical reality and non physical reality.  its where youre aware of the fact your body has paralysed itself for sleep.

Think about it like youre wanting to go across to another country. You want to go to that country, not stand at the border. So place your intent on going in, not on sleep paralysis itself.

When are you doing your attempts? Early morning works best after you've slept some, not late at night.

[Astralsuzy]

Hi Martin, I ap every morning.  I know what I am talking about.  Others may disagree with me.  That is OK as that is their opinion.  You do not try to get into a trance.  You just let it happen.  It happens by itself.  I listen to a CD.  I mostly do not ap when I am listening to it.  When I finish listening to it, I gently breath in and out.  I will then do an ap technique.  If that does not work I just breath until ap happens.  I might go back to an ap technique again.  When you get ap signs then you can make ap happen.  Now that I believe I can ap I ap a lot quicker than before.  It is very important that you believe you can ap.

[Lionheart]

Hi Martin, I ap every morning.  I know what I am talking about.  Others may disagree with me.  That is OK as that is their opinion.  You do not try to get into a trance.  You just let it happen.  It happens by itself.   
Now that I believe I can ap I ap a lot quicker than before.  It is very important that you believe you can ap.

You are correct, you don't need to be in a Trance or Sleep Paralysis state, all you need to do is change your focus between the Physical and the Non-Physical. However you achieve this is up to you. But if you feel that you are being hindered because you can't get to SP or a Trance state, then you shall be hindered.
Belief is extremely important, any kind of doubt with squash your progress flat like a bug!
Practice is the single most important thing here. The more you attempt, the more you hone yours skills! 

[Astralsuzy]

What you said was excellent Lionheart.

[Xanth]

What are you doing wrong?  First, you're focusing entirely too much upon Sleep Paralysis.

Lionheart is bang on. 

[todd421757]

Sleep paralysis helps you get a specific type of projection. This specific type of projection is probably what most newbies are trying to get. I would say let them try to achieve success with it. It is entirely possible to achieve continued success on a daily basis with sleep paralysis with little effort.

I would say try to get it once everyday to form a foundation. After you can get it without hardly even trying or focusing on it, then you can start trying for the OBE.

A foundation is desirable, if you are wanting consistent results for years to come.

[Xanth]

A foundation is desirable, if you are wanting consistent results for years to come.

Meditation, meditation, meditation. 

[Anonymouse]

Well, Just to let you know I've been on this for quite a while... 4-5 months I think?. You discover many many things in the way, I've only gotten vibrations once, and was after waking up after a very strong dream, if I was in SP I don't know, cause I didn't pay attention to my body, I naturally started vibrating.

I am trying many many different things, I'm constantly innovating, and all I can tell you is that everything makes you grow a little bit more, every little turn you make when you're there, alone, in your bed, only you finding out you are more than just your mind...

Everything leads to a path in my opinion, that path is to grow more spiritually, to understand more. And I believe that sticks with you after you leave this body forever.

You actually see the world different, see your self different, you suddenly realize you are not your thoughts, your aptitudes, your strengths,,, Yes, all of those are part of you right now, in this very moment and in this life; they are meant to be discovered, and developed, but they aren't you, you are something more than that. All of these realizations don't come from books, or from readings others writings, they come from the time you spend going within you.

Meditation is (for me) a path to prepare your self for OBE, and OBE is a tool to know your self, to grow, to learn.

So ask your self, Are you  seeking spiritual growth, knowledge, learning from you and from everything? or are you just seeking to "OBE"

[Astralsuzy]

To answer your question about are you seeking spiritual growth, knowledge, learning from you and from everything? or are you just seeking to "OBE"

At the moment I am only interested to OBE.  I want to get a lot of experience without messing things up.  When I have done that very well then I would like to get knowledge, learn, spiritual growth and help to find missing people if that is possible.

[Lionheart]

Well, Just to let you know I've been on this for quite a while... 4-5 months I think?. You discover many many things in the way, I've only gotten vibrations once, and was after waking up after a very strong dream, if I was in SP I don't know, cause I didn't pay attention to my body, I naturally started vibrating.

I am trying many many different things, I'm constantly innovating, and all I can tell you is that everything makes you grow a little bit more, every little turn you make when you're there, alone, in your bed, only you finding out you are more than just your mind...

Everything leads to a path in my opinion, that path is to grow more spiritually, to understand more. And I believe that sticks with you after you leave this body forever.

You actually see the world different, see your self different, you suddenly realize you are not your thoughts, your aptitudes, your strengths,,, Yes, all of those are part of you right now, in this very moment and in this life; they are meant to be discovered, and developed, but they aren't you, you are something more than that. All of these realizations don't come from books, or from readings others writings, they come from the time you spend going within you.

Meditation is (for me) a path to prepare your self for OBE, and OBE is a tool to know your self, to grow, to learn.

So ask your self, Are you  seeking spiritual growth, knowledge, learning from you and from everything? or are you just seeking to "OBE"

Excellent post Anonymous. You nailed it 100% on the head here. This is all about growing, learning, experiencing. This isn't a one time "joyride". You get out of it exactly what you put into it! 

[Astralsuzy]

I agree with Lionheart, it is an excellent post.

[M4RT1N]

To answer your question about are you seeking spiritual growth, knowledge, learning from you and from everything? or are you just seeking to "OBE"

At the moment I am only interested to OBE.  I want to get a lot of experience without messing things up.  When I have done that very well then I would like to get knowledge, learn, spiritual growth and help to find missing people if that is possible.

me too i just want an obe right now and after i can AP easily then i'll seek knowledge, spiritual growth etc.

[Xanth]

me too i just want an obe right now and after i can AP easily then i'll seek knowledge, spiritual growth etc.

You're doing it backwards...

[M4RT1N]

You're doing it backwards...

i meant im going to do those things while astral projecting, im already doing them on the internet all day everyday

[Xanth]

i meant im going to do those things while astral projecting, im already doing them on the internet all day everyday

You can do those things every second of every day of your life. 

What I'm saying is that you don't need to learn Astral Projection in order to grow spiritually.
Actually, you'll probably grow MORE simply experiencing and interacting with this physical reality and the consciousnesses whom inhabit it than you will in the Non-physical.

That's why you're here in the first place.

AND... as you progress and grow more spiritually, you'll find that things such as astral projection become a natural extension who you are... instead of something you simply "do".

[M4RT1N]

You can do those things every second of every day of your life. 

What I'm saying is that you don't need to learn Astral Projection in order to grow spiritually.
Actually, you'll probably grow MORE simply experiencing and interacting with this physical reality and the consciousnesses whom inhabit it than you will in the Non-physical.

That's why you're here in the first place.

AND... as you progress and grow more spiritually, you'll find that things such as astral projection become a natural extension who you are... instead of something you simply "do".

yer but when i learn to astral project i can speak to my guides more easily, talk to dead people more easily, enter the akashic records, have astral sex, etc. those things will help me grow more spirituality   

[Xanth]

yer but when i learn to astral project i can speak to my guides more easily, talk to dead people more easily, enter the akashic records, have astral sex, etc. those things will help me grow more spirituality   

Yes, those will help you grow.
However, surprisingly, none of those things will help you as much as living your physical life in a positive manner.

Learn how to do that first.  The rest comes naturally out of it.

[Astralsuzy]

What Xanth said makes sense.  We grow more spiritual in our physical life if we want to of course.  Martin forget about astral sex.  It is a distraction and you will be better off to do other things.  If you do manage to have astral sex and you get those feelings that it feels good, it will send you back into your body again. 
There are a few requirements to ap that you must do to make it work.  They are;
1.  You must believe you can ap even if you have been unsuccessful.  Tell yourself everyday you can ap.
2.  You must concentrate otherwise you can fall asleep.
3.  You must be patient
4.  Your mind has to be relaxed.  I listen to a CD on thunder, rain and wind.
If you can do all of the above, you will be well on the way.