What are your feeling about Guides?

[Rastus]

Oddly enough I side with Veccolo on his decision.  It is indeed his choice.  He continually makes the choice, and is free to modify his decisions slightly or greatly at anytime, and his guides will never Judge him for it.

[EnderZ]

Oddly enough I side with Veccolo on his decision.  It is indeed his choice.  He continually makes the choice, and is free to modify his decisions slightly or greatly at anytime, and his guides will never Judge him for it.

I also agree that it always comes down to being your choice, but arrogantly believing that you dont need divine help, and that you are better than anyhelp that the divine could offer is just asking to be humbled.

-En

[karnautrahl]

There is the question of whether anyone (spirit wise) actually wants to help or get involved!, I'm not sure that they always do for everyone really. For some I suspect they just stay away instead for various reasons?

[karnautrahl]

There is the question of whether anyone (spirit wise) actually wants to help or get involved!, I'm not sure that they always do for everyone really. For some I suspect they just stay away instead for various reasons?

[Itinerant]

In our physical lives we must choose to have faith in certain people in order to function.  We take a leap of faith every time we establish a relationship, be it personal or professional.  It does not mean that we follow blindly, the decisions are thoughtfully considered.

If you were to travel to the amazon jungle, or the Himalayan mountains you would choose a guide because your knowledge of the landscape is insufficient.

In our current form we have little knowledge of our landscape, and I believe the most knowledgeable among us would be the first to agree with that statement. Why then would we not choose to listen to and seriously consider the advice of a guide who inspired trust in us (not blindly in any entity) if that information were available?

[Telos]

Oh, you teenage boys...enjoy it now. This is the only time in your life you'll have all the answers.

She's right! I remember knowing a whole lot more, before I grew up.

I blame school.

[Hannah b]

I wonder how much does the need to argue (hello Leyla), has to do with our spirituality...hmmm??pretty much?..probably..

I have a good friend, who has always been extremally concious of her doings (energy work, obe) and one day she "killed" her guide, who has always been with her. I was shocked, but on the other hand, what can I say to her after spending months next to her bed during chemiotherapy..I guess she had the right to. So I understand Veccolo.

Im always aware of guidance, and I know that I'm in good hands, and like the theory, that our guides are here to help us when God is busy, and we don't want to bother him too much. I also like to think, that I have in myself everything that I need and long for, and would never want any guide to be a substitute of that.

all the best

[Tom]

My purpose for coming to these forums is not just to tell everyone what I think. Really. I came here to learn something which I can use to improve myself and to make my meditation faster and more comfortable. In other words, I expected to come here for guidance. The people who give that to me are then Guides. If I can hear from Guides who can talk to me directly in my mind, so much the better. In the end, what to do with the guidance is still my decision.

[EnderZ]

I complety agree hanna b.

How old are we? seriously, lets leave any kind of childish  arguments out of this forum, lets not forget why we all come to these forums, just like tom put so nicely.

-En

[mrmougsly]

Geez, my topic has spin terribly out of control. lol

[stone]

In my experience, guides come in all shapes and sizes.  Though most of the time, guides appear in some shape or form that fits our very own personal mythology.  One of my guides has changed shape a few times, but I know who he is, because of the way he _feels_ to me.  His vibe is very particular and unique.

While some guides will actually offer advice, I've found that most prefer to hang back, unacknowledged and simply observe and wait.  Their guidance can be anything from direct involvement, to merely slipping a particular object into a dream that helps us through it.



Stone

[Hannah b]

Veccolo has laid in wait all this time for me to disagree with him, so he could accuse me of starting argument.

Noooo.... Layla.. You're the one who started.
You refuse to see it (maybe reread your first post, then reread it again.... and then again) but I personally find it extremely offensive, arrogant and rude..I see you  like dragging the old stuff with you and wait for the perfect (not sure, this was a great topic) moment to fight back..wow..how mature!..
The only excuse, is that you absolutely lack the sense of humour..hmm.. I see now that it is a possibility..poor excuse.
I'm very sorry dear moderators for my 2 cents, punish me till the end of my existence, but I just can't sit back while somebody is being offended and the attacker refuses to take the responsibility, spoiling others reading.

[Leyla]

For gods sake, Hannah, I admitted I took his bait! He makes very radical, inflamitory posts because he wants people to respond. There were others in here who thought his statment was awfully gosh-darned arrogant.

But I still think it's insane for him to lay in wait all this time, praying for the moment I would disagree with him on something, anything, just so he could play "turn the tables."

I mean, I didn't even think it was that big of a deal, I had forgotten all about it until this came up!

This has got out of control. I say we bury the hatchet. This needn't turn into "The Hatfields and the Mccoys."

[Eol007]

Hi Folks,

This is an interesting topic.. and it would be  a plain shame to see it ending up being locked or in the web bin due to a few wee arguments.

So in light of that please keep your personal grievances off-line!

Kind wishes,


Stephen

[Aros]

Namaste!

Great thoughts and input from everyone here.

I haven't had any conscious interfacing with my spirit guides or angels, but I certainly believe they are around. I guess this intuition of mine has to serve as proof enough for now. I'm very zWXY (and sensitive) to psychic and supernatural phenomenon, so I guess that's why I'm so sure about them.

I've dabbled in the Ouija Board in my younger years and this 12-year-old girl named Tiffany keeps appearing, no matter who I've "Ouija'd" with. I always brush it off, but deep down, I know there is a connection I can't explain.

However, I long to commune with my REAL guide, the one I know that has been with me for hundreds - thousands of earth years. I know once I leave my physical shell I will laugh and look into his or her eyes and say "Ha! No wonder I'm always searching for YOU. It's because it's YOU!"

[karnautrahl]

yzak niak dwrenyakzi doko uno sec unos doruna ti-kla-zhsi!

Um I just kinda had to do it...  

I still don't sense anything around me and today I've done a number of spell casts and workings-more intensely than ever. It does honestly feel that I'm alone in working. Has anyone else worked up a sweat whilst sitting doing healing/spellcasting etc and still feel solitary in their work?

The first line btw, is the nearest phonetic approximation of what I do naturally in spellcasting-speaking in some kinda tongues..I think there's a coupla words in there from one or two languages but really it's just what I tend to speak out.  I barely manage English so I'm not studied in linguistics.

[Tom]

One of my teachers told me that I was hearing from my guides back in 1999. I'd say I didn't agree with him until I experienced it distinctly for myself last month. Maybe we are all getting more guidance than we realize and are not recognizing it for what it is?

[Itinerant]

I while back I lost my bank card. The new one came with a new PIN. Shortly after that I went to see a couple (the husband speaks to passed loved ones, the wife draws them with no description) who contacted my grandparents who had passed. I went back over some of there old photos to realize that my pin was the same number as their address. Some might call it coincidence but the odds against such a coincidence are pretty high, and I'm certain it was their way of reaching out and trying to get my attention.   I would certainly have considered any advice they had for me in life, why not in death?

[Nay]

I while back I lost my bank card. The new one came with a new PIN. Shortly after that I went to see a couple (the husband speaks to passed loved ones, the wife draws them with no description) who contacted my grandparents who had passed. I went back over some of there old photos to realize that my pin was the same number as their address. Some might call it coincidence but the odds against such a coincidence are pretty high, and I'm certain it was their way of reaching out and trying to get my attention.   I would certainly have considered any advice they had for me in life, why not in death?

There are no coincidences IMO.  Things happen for a reason...they may not be the right reason for someone else, but if it make sense and gives you comfort, I say........RUN with it.  

Sounds like a sign from your loved one, to me.

Thanks for sharing.

Nay

[psych0naut]

This happened to me during my most notable OBE.  I was passing by a mirror and decided to see if I could see the reflection of my projected double in the mirror.  When I looked I saw myself only I looked a bit different and my hair was wild and I had sort of a golden glow about me.  I could see myself sort of bobbing slightly up and down and left and right as I watched my reflection.  Then I thought of RB's comments about entering a mirror and ending up in an anomaly and I decided to give it a go but when I tried to dive into the mirror I bounced off it!  Then I tried putting my arm in but it bounced off as well.  I gave up at that point and went to my bedroom where I found my physical body lying in bed.  I dove head first into the abdomen and immediately woke up in my physical body.  That was such a vivid projection and unfortunately I've not had one since then, and it's been months...admittedly my practice has been reduced to almost nothing but I hope to pick that up at some point.  I did have a degree of success after making and charging a lunar talisman intended to facilitate OBEs.  I "activated" it and went to sleep with it under the bed and at some point I became aware of myself standing in my room but I almost immediately began sinking into the floor and my vision began fading.  I willed myself to project towards my bedroom door and started moving in that direction but I lost consciousness right afterwards.

I've also had a couple dreams involving mirrors.  In these dreams I'd be looking at myself in a mirror and suddenly my lower eyelids would start to droop and blood would beging pouring out of my eyes as I begin to sink and my consciousness would start fading, as if I were faiting from the bloodloss.  One interpretation I have of those experiences is that I have gained a degree of lucidity during a projection however I lack the energy to maintain it and this *running out of gas* effect gets portrayed in dream imagery as running out of blood and, in effect, melting.

Hi mrmougsly,
It's interesting that you saw your reflection in the mirror.  No wonder your sister said Open your eyes.

You were creating the mirror image in your mind.  Which is why she wanted you to look beyond that, and see clearly.

I do think it was your sister.  And the reason why she appeared to be a different age is maybe because that is how she feels when OBE.  She wasn't your Guide, but she was your sister.

Beavis,
I understand your reluctance to follow any being.  But, what you will find to be your primary Guide (higher-Self) will not lead you astray.  And when the time comes to meet them you will know them.  Other helpers (guides) can only help if you let them, otherwise you are on your own to miss the signs whenever you want to.  So to speak.

I believe that there are guides. However it seems now a days that people are expecting a guide to be there every single time they project. Especaily the first time.

Its like as soon as they get out for the first time, they spend all of their time looking for their guide, and second guessing who it could be.

If a guide was watching, and he wanting to make himself known, he would.  Otherwise why go through that trouble of could this be my guide? no no, maybe this? or maybe this person? hmmm well it could be....

-En

YES !!  Well said EnderZ