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Quote from: kuurt on April 10, 2018, 06:50:57Over a hundred views and no comments. Does nobody know what I'm talking about? I guess you're not reading the same books as me apparently. I know at least two of the books I've recently read about these other planes used the term "inner spheres" and "spiritual spheres". What are they talking about? What's the difference between a sphere and a plane? Or are they the same thing?
Quote from: kuurt on April 11, 2018, 01:21:40So I take it that every plane is a different frequency, so when Adrien uses the term inner sphere, he's not talking about inner and outer planes in the sense that some are closer to Source/God which is in the center, and some are farther away. The inner planes are just those that are higher in vibration and therefore closer to Source, and the outer planes are lower in vibration and very dense like the earth plane.
Quote from: kuurt on April 12, 2018, 02:01:22If every plane does exist in a different frequency, why wouldn't the higher frequency planes be closer to Source and the lower frequency (dense planes) be farther from Source? I believe Tom Campbell says all these planes/frequencies are virtual realities and that the computer computing them has to exist outside the virtual realities. Where is this computer? Is it God/Source? Is God outside these virtual realities? And is that our ultimate reality - Oneness with God?
QuoteIts easier to imagine the concept downwards from our dimension rather than upwards into the unknown.
Quote from: kuurt on April 12, 2018, 07:01:55I really don't understand all of that, but thanks for trying to explain that to me.
QuoteWith sounds we have doe, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti, and back to doe. The second doe sounds very similar to the first doe because it's the same note double the Hz. So if the first doe is 60Hz, the second is 120Hz. So there is 7 notes per octave. And with colors there is the rainbow of red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet. Again, 7 before they repeat again and higher or lower octaves. I guess that's how I see these sub-dimension, not as nested dimensions, but as different degrees of the octave. Someone said each plane has seven sub-planes. Maybe there isn't really a correlation there, that's just what comes to my mind when I think about it.
QuoteI don't know about that. Wouldn't upwards be a higher vibration like the astral plane? I've experienced that so I can imagine that. But lower then the earth plane, that I can't imagine.
QuoteCould it really be that the mind of God is the computer generating all of these virtual realities? We have all of these patterns that they find in nature which seem to indicate that nature is very mathematical. Which seems to imply that its all computer generated. But would the mind of God really think or create mathematically? I wouldn't think so.
Quote from: kuurt on April 12, 2018, 02:01:22So there is just no order to the nonphysical planes at all, except how we order it with our imagination?
QuoteWe talk about subjective and objective reality. I realize that there is less objective reality in these nonphysical planes, but if there is even just a little bit of objective reality to them then there must be some sense of order. If these nonphysical planes also have laws and rule sets, then it stands to reason that there should be some way to order these planes in a way that is not subjective.
QuoteOn page 31 of "Gone West", there is this diagram of the Spirit Plane. It's not a real good diagram, but it's the only diagram I've seen of the nonphysical. That's what I want to see. I'm not talking about a map which shows locations in space, but a diagram that shows all the different planes (the astral planes, the spiritual planes, the mental planes, the celestrial planes, or however many there are.) And the sub-planes of each plane. I would like to know where is this place they called "summerland", where is the place they call "twilight zone", where is the place where people shed their astral bodies. Where is the belief system territories. Where is the celestrial heavens. Where is the hell planes. What goes on in all these different planes. What kind of people do you find in all these different planes. And ultimately what I would really like to know, is how to discern what plane you're experiencing when you're experiencing the nonphysical. If every plane does exist in a different frequency, why wouldn't the higher frequency planes be closer to Source and the lower frequency (dense planes) be farther from Source? I believe Tom Campbell says all these planes/frequencies are virtual realities and that the computer computing them has to exist outside the virtual realities. Where is this computer? Is it God/Source? Is God outside these virtual realities? And is that our ultimate reality - Oneness with God? It's not going to let me add an image, so here's the book "gone west". Page 31 has a diagram of the spirit planes. https://new-birth.net/media/cms_page_media/220/Gone_West.pdf