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Jager673

Well i recently got very into time travel and was reading about all these time machines and theories and getting some education into something that was acually fun to learn. I just couldn't get enough of the topic, because it just seemed to interesting to pass up. So I read and read tons and tons more of this stuff. I was so into this subject that all of a sudden while i was done reading and stayed up from 12:00 PM till 9:00-10:00 AM the next day and I could NOT stop learning more and more. So I said to myself i NEED sleep so i forced myself off the computer and got into bed. I could NOT get to sleep, all I could think about was ANYTHING that delt with time machines and everything in between all I was doing was theorizing. But the strange part about this I couldn't stop my brain from thinking about it. My brain was literally thinking on its own, and there was no way of stopping it. All i did was think think think, and it was all "Out Of The Box" thinking to. There was a day that i only had 1 hour of sleep and then went to school, and did nothing but theorize the whole day. I wasnt tired at all and i didnt know what to do and it was really getting to me. I mean i could hold conversations with someone but my brain would still be thinking about time travel stuff and theory after theory, while i was holding a good conversation with one of my friends or something. It seemed like i could think about something then talk about something else at the same time. My brain was on auto pilot, and i couldn't turn it off. From staying up for so long and getting LITTLE sleep, I started to helucinate but not bad bad. I was hearing a TV that i thought was on and was on some talk show or something. But when i went to go see it, it wasnt the tv. Then we had our christmas tree up and whatever i thought i wanted to do to the tree i could do in my mind for only my eyes. I thought of it bending and coming down and it did just that, the lights on the tree were blurry. Then I finally went to bed around 12:00 PM that afternoon. I slept for 4 or 5 hours then got up stay up till 11:00 PM that same day and finally got the rest i needed. My brain stopped thinking on its own. Then i stopped learning more on this time travel for a week or so. Then im back into again but only this time it seems like my brain has exceeded its limits! Now whenever im around anyone with some type of mentally issues that they had in there life, I could acually talk to them in ways NO ONE else could and brought them back into the world again. It just to me seems like whatever i say to my self it generates SOO MUCH stuff at once and i have to put it together with a puzzle. I think very deep into my thoughts and get what is the true Medicine to heal all fears they always had. This is hard for me to put it in a way so u can understand, what u still clearly dont understand please tell me and i will put it into better explanation. Now like what answered by you experienced Astral Projection people, since i have such a deep thought into feelings and emotions for not only myself but for other people, would that be a good think to have if i did do a Astral Projection which i have never done before and im scared that something will happen. Just the thought about "your soul" comes out of your body REALLY freaks me out. Im a religious person that beleives in God, but not yet took him as my personal saviour. I need to know that with religion invovled which i am Christian, does that have any worng doing on if thats really good or bad to do?

Doringo

If you're worried about your soul leaving your body, then don't be. During astral projection, I believe that the soul remains inside the body while another construct (usually known as an 'astral double' or 'etheric double') carries your consciousness elsewhere.

As to offending God and stuff like that, I doubt that you would be punished (however you would imagine being punished for it) for astral projecting. There's nothing inherently wrong or evil about it, whereas things like murder often go against sane people's conscience. (I would hope.)
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Jager673

well why am i able to like FEEL peoples emotions and feelings. I am able to help them with every kind of fear or what they have gone through. This started to happen like 2ish months ago, that i figured i could look past the good and the bad and look even deeper and see and hear there real pain. I just figure out what the person needs to cope with reality. Something i never EVER seen anyone or any kind of professional do. If theres a name for this thing, please give me a name for what this is.

kiwibonga

A person who can feel other people's feelings is an empath.

The way you explain things is interesting because I've felt similar things. "Theorizing" in your head is an interesting form of conversation. You're all alone in your head, apparently, yet you somehow use your brain so much you start to feel like you're having a conversation with yourself, or even with another person, using non verbal communication.

This is technically similar to schizophrenia, and I'm starting to think that there's "good schizo" and "bad schizo" -- I've seen quite a few reports of skilled astral projectors being able to have non-verbal communication with another part of themselves. The "inner voice" Robert Peterson mentions, for example, or the "internal language" Eric Pepin describes in the Handbook of the Navigator, are good examples of "good schizophrenia". You are aware of multiple personalities or identities within your own mind, yet you do not suffer from it, you actually benefit.

The basic idea is that a part of your mind is responsible for things such as intuition, inspiration, etc... You receive data from a higher intelligence, from yourself. By constantly using your brain and theorizing, you are getting in touch with this higher part, so you train your intuition and inspiration. Sometimes, as you're reflecting on something, you'll find that certain ideas seem to come out of nowhere.

The great part about this is that you get kind of a boost in confidence. You learn to listen to yourself, you trust yourself, and then suddenly things around you start going better, you get interesting coincidences, small precognitive events that can't be proven. I'm pretty sure it's the beginning of some kind of extra-sensory power, something that inventors, geniuses like Einstein or Edison discovered on their own. The more you "talk with yourself," the closer you bring yourself to your mind's full potential.


And overall, I think all the "higher knowledge" we acquire by knowing about things such as astral projection is beneficial to the way we think and handle life. We learn to be less troubled emotionally, to lose fear, etc... I feel that I'm a lot more stable now than I was a year ago, it's much easier to look at life on the bright side and help people realize that they're not actually suffering from their problems, but from the way they blow things out of proportion. When you firmly believe in life after death and reincarnation, even the most serious problems will seem like tiny pebbles on your path...
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Jager673

Wow, thank you so much! Just the answer i was looking for! Acually with what i have, would my astral dreams be any different from anyones normal ones at all? As a matter of fact that "thinking on its own" thing been happening alot more lately. I cant control it, and i don't get the sleep i need from it. Sometimes after i get done talking with someone on the phone i start to feel fear coming in like someone is going to come in my room and kill me or something... But 99% of the time i have NO fear at all. Its just when i start to get wayyy tointo the person is when i start feeling like that. Then before i forget I also have what i like to called "Extensive Im-pulses". It's where i can maybe poke myself with something sharp and i can shut my im-pulse from where i got poked either by myself or by a person stoping from hurting as much as it should have. It could be to a bleeding point and all i felt was hardly anything. I dont know what all this is called, but i have more things that i can do that i need a name for that i cant think of until it happens.

kiwibonga

When we get hurt, we have a tendency to put our hand over the wound, and it suddenly hurts less... When we hurt ourselves it also hurts less than when someone else does it. For example, if you've got a splinter in your foot and try to get it out with a needle, you'll be able to withstand the pain much better than if someone else does it for you. I'm not sure why that is, but I think it's the same for everyone ; is that what you're talking about?

As for dreams, use that "thinking on its own" as a springboard for projection. What you want to do is start thinking of a situation consciously until the subconscious mind takes it over. Once that happens you'll start perceiving images and sounds from your thoughts as if you were there. Overall it should take about 20 minutes... The very basic theory behind it is that there is a physical mind in the brain and a non-physical mind. The only mind you have control over while awake is the physical one, and the only one that can dream or experience a projection is the non-physical one. By pretending that you are in a fictional place for several minutes, you can "fool" the subconscious mind into thinking that it is actually in that place, and you will ultimately enter the fictional place. Once you are stable in that fictional place, you can go to the next step and project your consciousness out of body and fly out. Most projection techniques you'll find are based on this principle.

Essentially, our thoughts are very faint dreams. As we fall asleep, we'll experience hypnagogic imagery (pictures and sounds) which originates in our thoughts rather than our physical perceptions. When you go even deeper, you get full-fledged dreams. Out of body experiences and lucid dreams are simply experiences in which the non-physical subconscious mind does exactly what the conscious mind wants it to do ; to such a degree that there is real-time awareness of the present moment like in waking consciousness.

The problem is, the subconscious mind does not work the same way as the conscious one... Memory, movement, decision making, communication... They're all different in the spirit world, and so you have to make the subconscious simulate physical consciousness, otherwise you won't be able to perceive or remember anything.
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Jager673

what i dont get is how do u know your not sleeping like you do every night? What if you just "sleep" insted of "astral sleep"? Like when i am tired I dont feel like using anymore energy to get "astral sleep" i just want to go to "sleep" without thinking, lol. If that makes any sense... I guess just about everyone has had a OBE, but never remembered. I was bringing this up to my mom today in the car, and she said when she was little like 10ish or so, she remembers flying around everywhere. She said she remembers where she flied and what she "said", said meaning "think talking"... Well ya she said she had alot of them dreams, she remembers saying to herself, i like this place i wanna stay here... Something like that. Well heres where im confused. How do you have these OBE's without trying to have one, as in her case and mostly everyone else but they just dont remember? As of right now if i think of me flying in a dream I dont remember myself having one, but if i think hard and deep and bring subconscious to a pretend/real world part, theni prolly could, but i dont want a headache right now. lol. Now this is pretty cool i guess, that through out my whole life even when i was 3ish maybe 4-5 i was already thinking far for some reason. I dont mean like lets get some fake dolls and have a tea party, lol, no i mean like ever since i was 3 or older nature inspired me. Thats when my brain started to learn on its own about how to feel and question certian things. Even then if i think about it my brain was thinking on its own. Like i always wondered how to fly b/c birds flew and i wanted to fly, Even then i questioned and wondering what IF i was "THAT" bird. Or like if it was flying with alot of birds, i'd think just if i could fly like them I could go anywhere then come back. But that young i didnt know how to talk THAT well, so insted on thinking words it was kinda like picture video as being in 3rd and 1st person. I could acually vision myself at one of them bird. Some people might think its crazy or im crazy, but to tell u the truth, me as of now i am just like anyone else, i have never been in jail i have never caused any MAJOR trouble, never done drugs. Im just a nice cool dude that could get along with just about anyone. I was raised very good and come from a VERY good family. I told you that just bc maybe it got something to do with me.... i dont know, but it never hurts to try. Theres still ALOT i want to tell you that i never told anyone cause i never really had the need to. None of this is personal its just some people would think im a NUT CASE!! efore they even get to know me... Anyways thanks and hope to see a responce.

kiwibonga

Well, there's no real difference between "sleep" and "astral sleep" as you call them... The problem is with the way we've been taught how to sleep... As soon as you put mental importance into your dreams, you will remember them better. We actually wake up every 90 minutes or so during the night -- if you put enough intention into it, you'll detect these moments and will remember dreams. If you don't, you'll wake up and remember just one dream at the most, when you should have had between 5 and 10 over the course of 8 hours... Most people typically lose consciousness when they go to sleep, and that's where the problem lies.

An OBE is a special kind of dream where you impose a behavior on your subconscious mind -- this causes you to bring your everyday waking mind into the sleep state, where you'll be given control. Indeed, even if you remember 10% of your dreams, your chances of remembering an OBE are extremely slim, that's why people attempt to consciously induce them and wake up right at the end of the experience.

Sleeping itself is a "paranormal" skill, it's an extremely powerful altered state! What you want to do is bring control to it. There's nothing "magical" about OBEs, they are something that is second nature to us. The recipe is simple: learn the "proper" way to sleep. Instead of lying down and waiting for your energy to burn out, make yourself go to sleep, forget about all your worries, forget about your physical body, and see what happens. It's really all about observing yourself and creating circumstances where you will be conscious, but asleep, and in control of a non-physical body.
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Jager673

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I have a quick question before i forget. What about if you went to sleep and you was dreaming, and you was dreaming of yourself sleeping. Then that person was dreaming. What would he or she be dreaming about? Samething goes with Astral.

Also i was wondering if deja vu could maybe be well yes a dream, but what if you had a vision of yourself in another universe (Parallel Universe) that did other things. Could that be what deja vu really is? Dreams or Visions from your other Parallel Universe(s). When you have dreams could them dreams be "YOU" living or seeing the Parallel Universe(s) that you are a part of? In your dreams when you have a deja vu when you dream the people and things happening are replaced by other things or faces that are not the same as your deja vu or experience that you had in the "physical world" or "reality" as you see it. Could that be why you forget the 10-15 dreams a night you really have because you never existed in only the ones that you are a part of the Parallel Universe(s).

I dont know them are just questions that i HAD to put down b4 i forget them. This is kinda hard to grasp, but with a little thinking outside the box you will see it.

kiwibonga

Quote from: Jager673 on January 07, 2007, 15:14:16
I have a quick question before i forget. What about if you went to sleep and you was dreaming, and you was dreaming of yourself sleeping. Then that person was dreaming. What would he or she be dreaming about? Samething goes with Astral.

The person would be dreaming about himself sleeping? I'm not sure I get the question...

Quote from: Jager673 on January 07, 2007, 15:14:16
Also i was wondering if deja vu could maybe be well yes a dream, but what if you had a vision of yourself in another universe (Parallel Universe) that did other things. Could that be what deja vu really is? Dreams or Visions from your other Parallel Universe(s). When you have dreams could them dreams be "YOU" living or seeing the Parallel Universe(s) that you are a part of? In your dreams when you have a deja vu when you dream the people and things happening are replaced by other things or faces that are not the same as your deja vu or experience that you had in the "physical world" or "reality" as you see it. Could that be why you forget the 10-15 dreams a night you really have because you never existed in only the ones that you are a part of the Parallel Universe(s).

I dont know them are just questions that i HAD to put down b4 i forget them. This is kinda hard to grasp, but with a little thinking outside the box you will see it.

Well... I personally think that parallel universes don't really exist... They make sense to the human mind because they explain how several scenarios can happen within the same timeframe... What I think is that every possibility exists forever, and every finality exists forever... However, we live in a world that is "final," meaning only one possibility is available to us. I do also think that it is possible to transcend time and modify the past... Precognitive dreams and deja vu would probably be the most obvious manifestation of this, but there's no way to tell for sure...

As to why you forget 10-15 dreams a night... It's simple... December 27, 2006 -- write down everything you did that day from the moment you woke up to the moment you went to bed, include every conversation, every TV program you watched, everything you read. Nobody ever remembers everything that happens, our memory is selective. The exact same thing happens with dreams. Unless you wake up right after it and write it down, you'll probably lose it... Forget about parallel universes -- it's just how our brains work :p
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Jager673

Quote from: kiwibonga on January 07, 2007, 22:11:05
The person would be dreaming about himself sleeping? I'm not sure I get the question...

Well you go to sleep and have a dream lets say a dream about playing outside. Then you go into your house and lay on a bed and go to sleep. Then how would you know if they are dreaming or what they are dreaming about. It could also be 3rd or 1st person.

kiwibonga

Well, it could change to another dream, or the person would go unconscious, and the last memory they'll have when they wake up will be that of going to bed in the dream...

I mean, it's a dream, anything could happen...!
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