I have possession problems, please help me

[Darina]

I will tell you things that sound like I am just shizophonic and this is the product of my ill brain. Noone who knows that I am sick with shiz believes me and I only hope that you here within this forum will know what I am talking about.
I am ill since five years old. Now I am 27. I take medical treatment for six years and already feel like my mind is getting more normal but there are things that don't let me live at all. Half a year ago I did exorcism, they took away that creature but something is still with me though I feel  the main thing is going away.
For 10 years I did not fight anything, I was wery down. I know that this is my fault. And now I feel it wants my death. I feel helpless, I just feel helpless and miserable.
I can name two of them. One is that one certain person sent on me. He was jealous on my talent and he had abilities to black magic though he was young then but now I am sure he practises it. This creature makes me feel like a excrement, miserable and weak. Whatever I do he whispers: you are ridiculous, you will never make it, don't make me laugh with your miserable tryings. It tells me that I lost anything and that fighting wont help anything and the strongest thing I can make is kill myself. It is in my mind each second I am awake. I know that I see him but I just cant fight, I don't know why, maybe I am really a excrement, I don't know why I cant fight it, please help, I am so scared, I don't want to die. I feel like I am immured. I cant do anything, I do nothing, and I cant explain what I have been doing during the day, I don't remember.
The other one is in my father. He( the creature in my father) is very evil, I think he is a devil. It is in my eyes. He takes my sexuality and corrupts it. He feels with my feelings. He forses me to feel sex to every person that causes me in reality unsexual  attitude, people that I don't feel anything like that , that is my relatives, same sex people, old men and women, little children, everyone! And he makes it so that it is in my eyes, voice, so that they all feel that I feel sexual feelings to them, I look like it. The more I try to repress it the worse it gets. Everyone thinks I am a whore. And I am absolutely not, I am a good person. I even never watch  any porn, I hate it. My father is the person who believes that I really feel this. This devil makes him  be so suspicious that he thinks that I masturbate 50 times a day with his things. He talks to me with second meanings insulting me. And it always is like about me really, it touches me deeply.
This comes inside every person that  this sex thing appears and they start to talk to me with second meanings insulting me in most severe ways, hurting me, I think my soul bleeds... and when I ask them they don't understand what I am talking about. My father hates me like the  biggest enemy and makes it clear he wants my death. But in reality he is very kind with me and when I ask him he gets very angry and says its not true, its bovine excrement. It is with my mother also.... He does it every time he sees me. Everyone does it.  I cant stand the pain.
When I go to bed I doubt if I wake up and  in the morning I doubt if I live up till the evening. And lately I think it is poltergeist. I hear sounds like metal scrubbing, they are loud and go from inside of the room near the roof. Few times the TV turned on itself and once the light turned off and there was no problem with the switch...

[NoY]

I'm afraid you will have to make your self an astral warrior and fight back
you must find the courage to win the mind games

very few people can actually help you with little more than council
I use teleporting poisonous arrows and when dark beings talk to me i just shoot them in the head
human beings are very powerfull and when you give your power to dark beings its a great high for them, you need to take back control, its a fight you can win if you stand fast, don't be afraid
be holy, negative attachments can be eather self created or can wander in from outside

but you are stronger, know you are, and fight for controll of the situation, manifest a sword with your spirit and cut there head off, bless your sword so it can only harm evil and so that no good person will be harmed by your actions, and then you are free to fight back

I understand most of what you are going through and I noticed if i did nothing it got worse
but if i fought back it became tolerable, in time

I hope you get to grips with your problem and good luck,

:NoY:

[personalreality]

You can call on the guardians of your local tradition to help.

If you're catholic or come from a catholic background you could call on Archangel Michael for example.

There are other equivalent deities around the world in every tradition.  Find one you like and ask them to protect you. 

[Pauli2]

They may be your lost Aspects of Self. Send them PUL, accept them as part of you and absorb them into you, to make you whole.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/pul_pure_unconditional_love_retrievals-t33529.0.html

[Lexy]

I think you should do the LBRP daily and the Middle Pillar ritual.

[Darina]

Exuse me, Lexy, I don't know what LBRP and Middle Pillar ritual is. The book of Robert Bruse has opened my eyes, but still I don't know a big deal.

[Summerlander]

Have you seen any of the entities? If so, what do they look like? Are they pale skinned?

[Pharoah]

My personal belief system is such that nothing can harm you if you don't believe in it.  This is especially true in matters of the astral/spiritual/whatever-you-want-to-call-it realm.

By believing that you are possessed you are essentially giving a "possession" that wouldn't otherwise exist, more power.

Declarations are also pretty powerful where this is concerned.  Try declaring out loud that there is nothing with you, nothing holds power over you, etc. You will eventually come to believe it, and as stated above, beliefs can go along way.

I don't have any experience with possession so what I say here may not work for you.  It's just another idea for you to give some thought to.

[Xanth]

My personal belief system is such that nothing can harm you if you don't believe in it.  This is especially true in matters of the astral/spiritual/whatever-you-want-to-call-it realm.

By believing that you are possessed you are essentially giving a "possession" that wouldn't otherwise exist, more power.

Declarations are also pretty powerful where this is concerned.  Try declaring out loud that there is nothing with you, nothing holds power over you, etc. You will eventually come to believe it, and as stated above, beliefs can go along way.

I don't have any experience with possession so what I say here may not work for you.  It's just another idea for you to give some thought to.

I personally, fully support this response. 

[Summerlander]

Something happened to me when I was about seven. Objects moved in the house (poltergeist activity) which happened around a time of turmoil and I've got some theories for this other than evil spirits, perhaps more mundane explanations. I blacked out at one point and it was horrible, like I was drowning or being 'squeezed out of existence' as best as I can describe it. Many who came to know about this reckon I was possessed. My mum performed the exorcism. But today I won't just accept the demon explanation. I think it was something else as elusive as OOBEs. My parents got divorced, the environment was better and the 'poltergeist' activity stopped. During my 'possession' I apparently cursed at my parents. I don't remember any of it.

I do know this tho...in Mode 2 OOBES (astral projection), if you don't believe demons to be real and you don't fear them, they will vanish and you won't experienced them again. It's just the product of dissonant states of mind in my view.

Now...about pale-skinned characters in non-physical worlds...I kept experiencing these for the first five years of my life. I'd have false awakenings so real as to make me think that 'mummy had made some changes to the house' while I've been asleep. Then they would come through the walls, giggling with malice. They would chase me and violate me. I was a scared little boy. I'd tell my mum about the 'white men'. She didn't know what to make of it but she did what she believed was right...she burned incense around the house and not once did she think the problem was in me, the fear...god bless her.

Now, can you be more explicit about the thing inside your father and the sex? I don't want to insinuate anything but I suspect real malice and that may be the source of the problem which might as well have psychological roots.

Get to the bottom of it all, see the truth, fearless... and there is the key to your freedom.

[personalreality]

I personally, fully support this response. 

I've been wondering about this lately.  I don't dispute that you can make some "not be there" with your mind by not providing it with attention.  I mean that is the redheaded step child of physics that no one wants to just admit too, but when we don't provide attention to something, for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist as an "objective" thing.  However, just because I personally don't provide attention, doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist. 

So what I've been wondering is, Xanth, are you just delluding yourself into not seeing what is there?  Are you putting such a creature off on someone else when it might have been your "path" to encounter it?  Are you hiding from your "destiny" as it were?  Not confronting the dark parts of yourself that you're afraid to own up too?  I'm just using you as an example ryan, but you get my point?  Perhaps you were supposed to interact with such an entity for a very important reason in your life.  And I wonder if we are really tricking ourselves out of an important personal experience by "not believing in these things".

[CFTraveler]

I will tell you things that sound like I am just shizophonic and this is the product of my ill brain. Noone who knows that I am sick with shiz believes me and I only hope that you here within this forum will know what I am talking about.
I am ill since five years old. Now I am 27. I take medical treatment for six years and already feel like my mind is getting more normal but there are things that don't let me live at all. Half a year ago I did exorcism, they took away that creature but something is still with me though I feel  the main thing is going away.
For 10 years I did not fight anything, I was wery down. I know that this is my fault. And now I feel it wants my death. I feel helpless, I just feel helpless and miserable.
I can name two of them. One is that one certain person sent on me. He was jealous on my talent and he had abilities to black magic though he was young then but now I am sure he practises it. This creature makes me feel like a excrement, miserable and weak. Whatever I do he whispers: you are ridiculous, you will never make it, don't make me laugh with your miserable tryings. It tells me that I lost anything and that fighting wont help anything and the strongest thing I can make is kill myself. It is in my mind each second I am awake. I know that I see him but I just cant fight, I don't know why, maybe I am really a excrement, I don't know why I cant fight it, please help, I am so scared, I don't want to die. I feel like I am immured. I cant do anything, I do nothing, and I cant explain what I have been doing during the day, I don't remember.
The other one is in my father. He( the creature in my father) is very evil, I think he is a devil. It is in my eyes. He takes my sexuality and corrupts it. He feels with my feelings. He forses me to feel sex to every person that causes me in reality unsexual  attitude, people that I don't feel anything like that , that is my relatives, same sex people, old men and women, little children, everyone! And he makes it so that it is in my eyes, voice, so that they all feel that I feel sexual feelings to them, I look like it. The more I try to repress it the worse it gets. Everyone thinks I am a whore. And I am absolutely not, I am a good person. I even never watch  any porn, I hate it. My father is the person who believes that I really feel this. This devil makes him  be so suspicious that he thinks that I masturbate 50 times a day with his things. He talks to me with second meanings insulting me. And it always is like about me really, it touches me deeply.
This comes inside every person that  this sex thing appears and they start to talk to me with second meanings insulting me in most severe ways, hurting me, I think my soul bleeds... and when I ask them they don't understand what I am talking about. My father hates me like the  biggest enemy and makes it clear he wants my death. But in reality he is very kind with me and when I ask him he gets very angry and says its not true, its bovine excrement. It is with my mother also.... He does it every time he sees me. Everyone does it.  I cant stand the pain.
When I go to bed I doubt if I wake up and  in the morning I doubt if I live up till the evening. And lately I think it is poltergeist. I hear sounds like metal scrubbing, they are loud and go from inside of the room near the roof. Few times the TV turned on itself and once the light turned off and there was no problem with the switch...

I am confused by this post.  Do you believe someone else is possessed, or do you believe you are possessed?  What I read doesn't seem like possession to me.

[Xanth]

I've been wondering about this lately.  I don't dispute that you can make some "not be there" with your mind by not providing it with attention.  I mean that is the redheaded step child of physics that no one wants to just admit too, but when we don't provide attention to something, for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist as an "objective" thing.  However, just because I personally don't provide attention, doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist. 

So what I've been wondering is, Xanth, are you just delluding yourself into not seeing what is there?  Are you putting such a creature off on someone else when it might have been your "path" to encounter it?  Are you hiding from your "destiny" as it were?  Not confronting the dark parts of yourself that you're afraid to own up too?  I'm just using you as an example ryan, but you get my point?  Perhaps you were supposed to interact with such an entity for a very important reason in your life.  And I wonder if we are really tricking ourselves out of an important personal experience by "not believing in these things".

All I can say is... MAYBE! 

Honestly, I can only go by my own experiences... and I've never encountered anything of the sort.  I'm not willing to believe I'm some kind of special individual who is immune to all this "negative" stuff.  It's either real, and my "belief" that it can't effect me is why I've never experienced any of it... OR, it's not fundamentally real, and people are literally causing self-harm.

Seriously though, we'll *NEVER* know the truth and this discussion will go on forever. 

[Summerlander]

Ok, I've already mentioned the malicious white skinned beings in my childhood. Then they went away. Many years later I discovered OOBEs. Last year I had an experience with harlequins or jesters...they were pale-skinned and very cartoon-like...their features exaggerated. One of them greeted me and hugged me. No words. Just really expressive with there gestures. The one in the background seemed to smirk at me...he seemed like he could turn nasty...his eyes piercing into me. He reminded me of the entities in my childhood. Looking back now I think they might represent states of mind. They could be archetypal beings that make up our personality. A bit like the creatures in Alice in Wonderland. 'Bits' of us. I don't think they're demons and I wouldn't label them as "negative" either. They merely reflect where our minds are focusing. This is my theory anyway. They are neither good nor bad until we label them that. And if we believe them to be nasty then that is exactly what they'll be...

[Pharoah]

All I can say is... MAYBE! 

Honestly, I can only go by my own experiences... and I've never encountered anything of the sort.  I'm not willing to believe I'm some kind of special individual who is immune to all this "negative" stuff.  It's either real, and my "belief" that it can't effect me is why I've never experienced any of it... OR, it's not fundamentally real, and people are literally causing self-harm.

Seriously though, we'll *NEVER* know the truth and this discussion will go on forever. 

The seed of doubt is just like any other seed.  Don't water it => it won't grow.

[Darina]

I am confused by this post.  Do you believe someone else is possessed, or do you believe you are possessed?  What I read doesn't seem like possession to me.

It is in me and it jumps into other people(while they don't know about it) with sexual thing  like a bridge for the goal of mocking on Me. I believe in astral anything can be.

[Summerlander]

I just had an intelligent discussion with Somerandom about this. After he asked me if it's possible that I made it all happen...I replied:

"I was thinking that too. I could have moved things unbenownst to me. Around that time life was bad anyway. My father was a violent gambler who almost killed my mum. I once screamed at him for a long time as a kid and wanted him to leave. It's funny that when the weirdness started happening, things were almost forced to calm down. Both my parents were confused as to what was happening. For me, monsters existed and they were invisible.

I do remember reading about a theory in a scientific mag as a teen. It said there is a chance that mind over matter occurs when the situation in a household is tense. The most vulnerable minds, like children, are the most affected. Perhaps our minds, as a collective force, made things happen the way they did and when I was "possessed" it could have been merely my unconscious mind taking over to protect me from the objective reality. Better still, the abnormal aggression that ensued towards both my parents (in the 'possessed' state) could have been a product of another personality that my mind made up and manifested in order to cope. And perhaps it went away not because it was exorcised but rather that the mind must've realised the new personality was erroneous and the original was quite capable of coping."

I hope this helps in some way, Darina.

[Killa Rican]

Get help from someone knowledgable in the field of Magick. You can still be possessed or attacked whether you believe in such things or not, It does NOT solve the problem to just brush it off as it never happened, knowing fully of the hell i gone through for 6 months when it happened to me. (Yes IT DID happen randomly and Not a result of my belief, Expectations, or fears etc.)

If your certain this is an Entity, Seek help! Do not turn a blind eye towards this.

[Xanth]

Darina,

You need to learn to control yourself.  Have you ever tried meditation?

If it's possible, find yourself a nice quiet area and just sit and quiet yourself. 
Your goal here is to be alone with your consciousness to become more acquainted with it... on a one-to-one basis.

Learn to shut out anything that doesn't belong.  Take control of *YOUR* consciousness.
If you've never meditated before, then it might not be easy... but just take it slowly and keep practicing to gain that control. 

Also, I'm a firm believer that we create our own reality.  This means that how you view the world, is how the world views you.  If you view the world and the people around you as being full of evil... then that's exactly how they're going to see you too, because you have now limited HOW you can react/act with them. 

[Darina]

Hi, Summerlander!
Thank you for your help!
Looks like you have had a great deal with astral world.
i really have got the problem with my father. it lasts for 9 years, hard to believe but it is so. sometimes i want to believe that it is not him, i just dont want to believe my father whom i love hates me real.  but i also suspise that the neg is working with my Father's own rage. I know it is possession because there's abnormality. he makes ugly faces to me, sexually ugly, nasty, perverted, he corrupts his voice, he looks sick. and what's weird that NOONE sees it exept ME. and when he looks at me i see his eyes all black without the white eye balls, all dark... and his look is like blind, like he sees through me and does not see me... and he is so suspicious. each time i go out of the house he thinks i go to have sex with someone... i sort of read his mind. there is a very strong psychic connection between us that is hard to brake, perverted, corrupted connection...
it started after he saw me dancing naked in my room. so there is a fact of psychological roots and that it is HIS own hate besides neg.
the thing is that i look sick. for some reason i look like i just had orgasm. i don't know why. and when i try to be nice i sound like i have something in mind to the person. my father understood this that i "promise him sex for that he gives me money and food"... and he all the time makes me feel with his second meaning intonations and sayings like i am a cheapest prostitute. i don't know if it makes any sense if i try to explain it.
my father is a very cruel person. he is kind but he is very hot in temper and he used to tell me things like" kill if you feell like it". he used to be a karate champion.
the worst thing is that he is only hapy when i am down. whenever i feel high he gets very angry and makes me feel that again. he gets angry when i feel better and does everything to make me the biggest harm!
he must be in psychiatric colony. but i think i should not under no circumstances quarrel with him, he might kill me physically, i think i should be very kind with him to exort this demon out of him.

[Summerlander]

Ok, Darina. Here's what we can do...

I gonna visit you in the OOBE state. For this all you have to do is PM me a picture and anything that you think might help so I know what you look like and your posts should give me a sense of your personality. I am planning to enter your mind realm and speak your unconscious self. I can see that these things have their own reality from your perspective and that perhaps your father has been corrupted by them. On the other hand I also want you to be open to the possibility that your father may be flawed to the point where he is capable of taking advantage of his own daughter and perhaps I may be able to prove you that these malicious beings are products/representations of dissonant states of mind if indeed that's the case.

I need your consent to be able to visit you in the OOBE-state, though. I never visit anyone without their consent. You don't have to tell me where you live in waking life because that's irrelevant. I'm more interested in your mind and I want to help you.

What do you say?

[Xanth]

How come I feel stuck in an episode of Supernatural in here...

[Darina]

Summerlander,
before i give you my consent i need to understand what OOBE state is and if this what you are going to do with my mind has any danger to me and my father. Are you going to change something in my subconsiousness or you are going just to  look at it and  talk with it for information? What exactly is your goal of OOBE? Because I am a bit scared of your proposition, I don't know what it is. I hope you don't deal with any kind of BLACK magic? I'm sorry if I could offense...
I have very vivid pictures of my father, it is very visible on those pictures.

[Summerlander]

The OOBE-state is the state of having your awareness focusing elsewhere other than the physical body. There is no black magic involved and it won't be a danger to you whatsoever. I would only like to try this because I have visited other people in this state before and reaped good results. Describing my experiences to the visited usually gives them an insight as to where they are mentally, because, as strange as this seems, my experiences seemed to have made more sense to them than me.

I wouldn't be able to change your mind because your mind does what it wants. Just like a person in hypnosis will not do anything that goes against who they are. It would just be for the purposes of information and understanding what is going on. I'm not afraid of your demons, by the way. I'm willing to get to the bottom of it.

[personalreality]

How come I feel stuck in an episode of Supernatural in here...

nothing more to say really.  just need to echo that.

we really can be reasonable about all this.  no need to get wrapped up in unnecessary superstition.