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HiRes

Quote from: Summerlander on September 03, 2011, 17:41:01
There appears to be a reason for this too as I have pointed out previously in the lottery thread:

"Here is some curious conclusions that professors at Harvard and Boston universities recently arrived at:

When humans started to move out of Africa to explore the rest of the world, evolution mutated and held on to a gene associated with risk-taking and the will to be adventurous - the DRD4 gene. Evidence shows that the distribution of the two main alleles (versions) of the gene and the ancient migration patterns appear to be congruent. The mutations that followed do not seem random at all and seem to have purpose...

Each allele appear to mark specific personality traits in people. While a 4R allele is linked to prudent individuals, the 7R and 2R ones seem to indicate more impulsive behaviour in others. It is believed that individuals that possess the latter versions coped with dangerous situations a lot better and were more capable of surviving and reproducing under more challenging conditions.

Thus it was concluded that mass migration can influence our genetic make-up and specifically modify it in the evolutionary scale. Apparently, the 7R allele arose as a rare mutation 50,000 years ago after we left our home continent and spread throughout the world. Later, the 2R modified version emerged in Asia.

More interestingly, those that have been diagnosed with ADHD are twice as likely to have the 7R allele. Perhaps some of the symptoms that we think indicate a "disorder" - such as quick movements and rapid shifts in focus - are actually survival traits from natural selection."


I have to say that makes perfect sense :D and honestly.. more and more kids are showing up with ADD or ADHD.. soo I think we are about to evolve and everyone will be some form of ADD or ADHD :P.. more like everyone will be psychic and able to do as the please.. WITH PRACTICE OF PSYCHIC ENERGIES.. xD not just oh hey i am psychic :O

SirMike

Quote from: HiRes on September 03, 2011, 20:46:44
I think we are about to evolve and everyone will be some form of ADD or ADHD :P..

I don't know about that, I think people who have/had ADD or ADHD when they are children  :wink:
lose it as they grow older, since the brain is developing at faster/slower rates.. everyone is different

kcsguniverse

People seem to think of time as a line. It's really more of a sphere of interlinking, twisting, turning lines tied around each other. All of time is happening right now, at this very instance. It is hard to explain, but it is just perception. What you did yesterday, you are still doing. What you will do tomorrow, you already did.

light487

The Doctor from Dr Who says it is a "wibbly wobbly time thingy".. hehe.. a good summation really. I like the elipse/circular concept of time in that you can theoreticaly come back around, following the same "forward" direction, and meet back up with yourself as you come around and "overtake" yourself...

SirMike

Quote from: kcsguniverse on September 29, 2011, 20:19:36
People seem to think of time as a line. It's really more of a sphere of interlinking, twisting, turning lines tied around each other. All of time is happening right now, at this very instance. It is hard to explain, but it is just perception. What you did yesterday, you are still doing. What you will do tomorrow, you already did.

What, I don't think so :/
That means that if I died tomorrow I would be dead right now, but that's not true because I am very lively and writing this post.

light487

Quote from: SirMike on September 30, 2011, 00:19:44
What, I don't think so :/
That means that if I died tomorrow I would be dead right now, but that's not true because I am very lively and writing this post.

It means that you are not-born, alive, and dead all at the same time. Try not to think of things in those terms though because there is "existence" before and after in-human experiences.. before "birth" and after "death".. everything is happening at the same time. Using the circle concept I mentioned before helps with this because you are still moving in a serial "direction" as per your objective perception but the ability to "come back around again" allows for infinite time.

Xanth

Quote from: SirMike on September 30, 2011, 00:19:44
What, I don't think so :/
That means that if I died tomorrow I would be dead right now, but that's not true because I am very lively and writing this post.
What does "being alive" mean?
To humans.. it means being able to interact with this physical reality in a physical body.
Once you can't do that anymore permanently, you're no longer alive.

From my experiences, there is no "alive" or "dead"... we're just consciousness, and we just exist as such.  We're, for the most part, immortal.

Stookie_

There's an old Sun Ra song with a repeating line: "The world has already ended, haven't you figured that out yet?"

kurtykurt42

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Quote from: SirMike on September 01, 2011, 15:49:38
Now, it has gone to my attention that some people think that time is a perception
I am not against anyone that thinks that, but the reason I disagree with this theory is because

If time is a perception in our heads, that means length has to be a perception also but that cannot be possible,
because if it were possible than we could travel great distances with just one footstep!

Also, time and length are technically artificial, in a way.. because we "made" time and we "made" length, now; some people
confuse are time (like 12:37 PM) with REAL TIME (live things occurring all at once, love, hatred, and so on.)
So that being said, that means that most things would have to be a perception, for instance: math

A universal language that anyone can/should understand; one pencil is still ONE pencil in other languages, it wont be 324 pencils, it would still be 1 pencil.

So we cannot say that is a perception either, because its not something in your head, a pencil is right in front of you and its still ONE pencil.

Length: we measure it in ft, cm , mm, m and many different sort of categories for length, if things are a perception in our head than explain to me why is it that when I take one step forward, I don't travel across the ocean and only travel IN FRONT of where I was originally stationed.

Everyone can believe what they want  but if time can be a perception in our head.. well than we "control" physics.. which we are not even capable of doing.. (yet  :evil:)

Again, as I mentioned before, I am not against anyone who believes  that time is a perception, I am just explain my theory on why I think it is not.

Have a good day!  :-P

Length is used to measure objects in space, not time. The distance between two objects can be measured with a measuring instrument (i.e. ruler) but how do you measure the distance between two points in time?

Where an object was yesterday and where it is today is not the same point in space. You have to take into account the gravitational orbit of the planet around its sun, as well as the distance created by the expansion of the Universe. Therefore, the object yesterday that hasn’t moved, has technically moved millions of miles through space. Thus concluding that time is not artificial.

SirMike

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on September 30, 2011, 14:13:59
Length is used to measure objects in space, not time. The distance between two objects can be measured with a measuring instrument (i.e. ruler) but how do you measure the distance between two points in time?

Where an object was yesterday and where it is today is not the same point in space. You have to take into account the gravitational orbit of the planet around its sun, as well as the distance created by the expansion of the Universe. Therefore, the object yesterday that hasn't moved, has technically moved millions of miles through space. Thus concluding that time is not artificial.

By artificial I mean like 12:51 AM or Pacific Standard Time. We made these specific times up so we can use them for are regular lives. I'm not the one to say the universe expands because I fairly don't know that it does or that it doesn't, that being said; I don't take it into account, BUT if it did it would still stay in the same place- I say this because if you imagine a circle and in the center there is a red dot, as the circle gets bigger the red dot is still in the center so that is why I do not take universal expansion into account. As for measuring distance with time, I do not recall saying anything about that.

Szaxx

Hi,

Theres the new thing on the expanding universe,all matter is also expanding and this includes inter atomic distances too. If its real then charge between counterparts will weaken given time then matter itself cannot exist.
Ive not got any links to this text, I found it and thought yep...mmmmm...
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.