Quantum Coniousness and Campbell

[Contenteo]

So i was so enthralled with Campbell's Big TOE theory and the nature of consciousness. I began tearing it apart.

One of my questions, was "Ok, big consciousness controls every consciousnesses, I can dig it, but where does it start and how does the a brain/decision tree develop. Like are bacteria conscious?"

So I went delving through the journals. Then I came across this fact.

"However the work I've done with Roger Penrose predicts a threshold for emergence of conscious experience at a level of microtubule complexity and quantum coherence in roughly hundreds of neurons. This level is found, for example, in small worms, tiny sea urchins, and other very simple creatures. Bacteria and protozoa like paramecia are below that line, so, in this view, they would not be conscious. They would be more like proto-conscious—something like a primitive sub-conscious or dream state."

Link to article http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/interviews/alternative.html

Wait, backup. Whoa. So a sub-conscious/dream state happens before real consciousness?

Damn that is interesting. One up for his big TOE in my book.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Stillwater]

The line of thinking he is employing here is similar to what modern neuroscientistics and philosophers of mind mean when they speak about proto-conscious properties, espectially in context of theories like Protopsyschism. The idea is that conscious experiences emerge as formed entities from a sort of background sea of unconscious thought and feeling fragments. These fragments exist in massive volume, but they need to be organized and rendered coherent in order to make straight-forward thoughts and experiences of the type people enjoy. So in this line of thought, many simpler animals can be host to a handful or these proto-conscious thought-fragments, but it is only in the more organized and clomplex creatures that these take on an individual identity as a conscious entity.

Our own subconscious minds are the collectives of all of our proto-conscious fragments, existing as a torrential pile of unguided feelings, according to this theory.

[NoY]

interesting stuff! 



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