How do you stop reincarnation?

[AndrewTheSinger]

If you know what you have to do and you set your mind to accomplish it, it should take just 1 lifetime, but great discipline.

[Rudolph]

How do you stop reincarnation, is it possible to do it within one lifetime? I would like to think that it is.

I might even bet you a nickel that it is not possible to stop "reincarnation". Sure, maybe someone could... someday... but I doubt it.

But for the Individual I think it might very well be possible to stop 'reincarnating'.

Maybe even within one Lifetime. In fact, for a few it is probably the case. Though, for most of us it will more likely be a matter of choosing our best course and struggling to do extraordinarily well in this lifetime and with the consciousness gained therefrom enter the Bardo regions in full consciousness with strength and power and Full Awareness and then, choose consciously a subsequent Lifetime whereby a propitious Life might be lived and a True Teacher might be encountered and Liberation from the Wheel might be attained.

As for what to do with the present situation?...

Play the hand yer dealt partner...play it well... to the very best of yer ability... maybe you'll get lucky.

At the very least, give this one lifetime here and now, your very best shot. Enter the Bardo with some small measure of Consciousness and with the blessed power conferred upon those who do so, choose well for your next go 'round.

If nothing else... at least try to stop being an idiot. (Most do not bother. You can set yourself apart with this one small effort)

[Fresco]

If you know what you have to do and you set your mind to accomplish it, it should take just 1 lifetime, but great discipline

You mean knowing what your purpose is here on earth, and then carrying out that purpose??

[Xanth]

I'm with Ruddy, I think It's like asking "how do I stop learning?"
The answer is that you never stop!

[AndrewTheSinger]

You mean knowing what your purpose is here on earth, and then carrying out that purpose??

Certain important aspects are: hate, greed, envy, desire, jealousy, and fear.

If you pay attention to these things the spiritual beings will become aware of you, and you will become aware of them. I pray eagerly that they receive me in the eternal realm after I depart from this place.

[Fresco]

Certain important aspects are: hate, greed, envy, desire, jealousy, and fear

Could you define "desire" for me please??!
I assume that includes sex and/or lust??  Does that mean you'd have to completely go without any sex??!!

That would be a toughie 

[AndrewTheSinger]

Most people don't like to hear that, but yes, lust is an animal aspect of the soul, so those who seek to rise spiritually have to overcome fleshly desire and prove that they are spiritual and not like the beasts.

[CFTraveler]

Also, in Hindu philosophy desire is the state of 'wanting something'.  The act of wanting anything at all sets up the scenario in which you are going to experience getting it or trying to get it.  Physical existence is necessary to be in the position of getting 'something', therefore, desire (for anything) will make you reincarnate.

[CFTraveler]

those who seek to rise spiritually have to overcome fleshly desire and prove that they are spiritual and not like the beasts.

Actually "wanting to prove you are not like a beast" is another reason to reincarnate- it is a form of desire, and will perpetuate the wheel.
You see, to prove you are 'not like a beast' you have to be born in the planet, and that is why desire is the operative word- desire of anything at all.

[Fresco]

Most people don't like to hear that, but yes, lust is an animal aspect of the soul, so those who seek to rise spiritually have to overcome fleshly desire and prove that they are spiritual and not like the beasts.

So that would include giving up sex even with your wife/girlfriend??1! 

[CFTraveler]

Depends on who you ask.  If you give up sex and miss it, you'll want it, and that is desire.  So the trick is not to give up anything, but to not be too attached to it.  Or so it's what the Buddha said.
That's why it's called 'The Middle Way'- you don't 'give up', you stop being attached to your desires.
Good luck with that.

[AndrewTheSinger]

That is a goal, not a desire. Desires have to do with material/worldly things. Gnostics and Hindus share some similar beliefs, but salvation operates differently. Also, the Hindu archons set many rules that Buddha despised afterwards when he tried to find his own way, so it gets confusing to know how it really works with Hindu and Buddhists. 

[CFTraveler]

Yes, the Hindus were complete ascetes, and when Gautama went to live with them and realized it didn't work for him, he came up with the Middle Way.
BTW, what is the difference between a goal and a desire?  The mechanism of putting a result sometime in the future is what creates the  'need' to reincarnate.  Time and space.
So if your goal is to be liberated this lifetime then you may attain it, but if your goal is to be liberated sometime in the future, this is what sets up your next incarnation.

[AndrewTheSinger]

So that would include giving up sex even with your wife/girlfriend??1!  

From what I've learned, yes. They (Sethians) teach: do not let your desires defile you. An example: you won't be arrested if you wish to kill someone, but if you actually go there and kill him then you will. So, first cleanse your mind, and keep your souls pure, and if you do that and become perfect you'll find rest.

*Ops, sorry Fresco, I was going to quote you and replied in your post  

[AndrewTheSinger]

Yes, the Hindus were complete ascetes, and when Gautama went to live with them and realized it didn't work for him, he came up with the Middle Way.
BTW, what is the difference between a goal and a desire?  The mechanism of putting a result sometime in the future is what creates the  'need' to reincarnate.  Time and space.
So if your goal is to be liberated this lifetime then you may attain it, but if your goal is to be liberated sometime in the future, this is what sets up your next incarnation.

I see. Well, as I see it, Seth changed the rules, according to him, none of them knew the truth and were serving these archons.

[AndrewTheSinger]

There is this experience, in which a Buddhist monk apparently meets yaldabaoth:

http://hellexists.com/testimony/ex_buddhistmonk.htm

[Fresco]

There is this experience, in which a Buddhist monk apparently meets yaldabaoth:

http://hellexists.com/testimony/ex_buddhistmonk.htm

Just curious Andrew, but are you  Christian or a minister in a church??

[AndrewTheSinger]

lol, no, I'm Sethian gnostic. I believe in Christ but not the one of the Bible.

I think the Buddhist monk was deceived by a demon in his NDE. It's not simply about believing in Christ, but knowing the true origin of things.

[Fresco]

Ah okay, I thought you might be one of those fire, hell and brimstone preachers 

[CFTraveler]

lol, no, I'm Sethian gnostic. I believe in Christ but not the one of the Bible.

I think the Buddhist monk was deceived by a demon in his NDE. It's not simply about believing in Christ, but knowing the true origin of things.

I think that when you have nonphysical experiences, the information you gather can come from many sources- your own fears, other people's beliefs, what happened, what people think happened, and what other nonphysical beings impart as information.  So really, it's a tossup... who knows.  I just know that something about what he said didn't ring true, or maybe it's that I think I've seen his photograph somewhere else, selling something else.
But I could be wrong.

[Ident]

No, you don't need to give up sex. Sex, in its purest form is an expression of love and a means of bonding closely with your partner, thus the term "making love". It is a good thing. If your only motivation for sex, however, is personal gratification then you might have cause to reconsider the basis of your relationship and bring more affection and tenderness into it. Mutual gratification, though, can also be a force for bonding, so don't decry that out of hand either.

In essence, you can choose to forsake reincarnation once you pass onwards from the Astral to higher spirit realms. Reincarnation is a personal choice and one made with a slew of helpers and advisors. We are here to experience and to progress in spirit.

[Xanth]

Intent.
It's all about Intent. 
In *EVERYTHING* you do.

Intent is also not an intellectual choice... it's a "being" choice.

[Fresco]

No, you don't need to give up sex. Sex, in its purest form is an expression of love and a means of bonding closely with your partner, thus the term "making love". It is a good thing. If your only motivation for sex, however, is personal gratification then you might have cause to reconsider the basis of your relationship and bring more affection and tenderness into it. Mutual gratification, though, can also be a force for bonding, so don't decry that out of hand either

I agree 100% with this 

[Stookie_]

It's about where your choice to do something originates from... animalistic/lower desires, or true intent through human thinking. It's common for people to make decisions based strictly on urges with no true intent involved. There's no freedom in that way of living.

[HiRes]

I think.. to stop reincarnation, you need to raise your consciousness.. IN THE PHYSICAL.. so that when you die, you will remember all the thoughts you had as a human.
Basically? Meditate on finding your higher self.. and trying to raise your vibrations.. keep on raising them more and more, until you are.. basically what would be called Jesus like. Then you will have control over your reincarnation