How far can we go?

[Blackstream]

I seriously do not like the idea of becoming one with anything.  I don't understand the attrativeness of this and probably never will.  I want to retain my individuality and ability to think for myself and do not want to lose my self in a vast sea of consciousness.  Sounds rather scary to me really.  I'd rather roam the astral planes and/or physical planes for an eternity than become a part of some kind of enlightened borg:/

[alpine9]

I agree blackstrem there is nothing like having our individual personalities.

[alpine9]

[ur]http:// www.meditationexpert.com/Articles/Articlekundalinichakras.htm[/url]

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
Enlightenment isn't like a trophy you have all the time, once enlightened you are not always in an enlightened state from that moment on.  You have to work at it and with it.  It is the same as Cosmic Consciousness, and you do retain the bigger picture views after an enlightenment experience.  It is therefore, only another step in the path of remembering what you really are.   Even the enlightened are students.

Kundalini is one avenue to an enlightenment experience, and a very powerful one at that.   Without preparation one should not even attempt to raise it, and certainly not without Guidance.  It is a hard taskmaster that has devoured many people before us and will continue to do so.

Karma isn't about debt.  It is just the natural mechanics relevant to incarnation and choice.  It is a tool we Souls use to weigh up our choices in order to choose further incarnations and their goals.  No one is ever going to stand over you saying you were a bad boy in your last life so you have to have a crappy one next to atone for your sins !!  You will choose according to the greater awareness you possess when not embodied, and you will include your successes and apparent 'failures' to achieve certain life goals.  So in light of this there would be no slate to wipe clean even if we did reach a constant enlightened state.

When in the enlightenment experience of oneness with the Universe you will come to understand that when we re-integrate with the Source we will not lose our unique 'character' to the awareness-soup.  We will simply be all that there is in a fusion of our individual awarenesses,  having brought the Universe closer to awareness of itself.

Love Always.[]

[LogoRat]

Its all about having fun.

[GhostRider]

quote:Originally posted by alpine9

When we reach the state of enlightment is that state permanent, and if we stop our practice will it fade?

After that state can we still go deeper?

Is cosmic conciousness, superconciusness and enlightment the same?

Were does kundalini fit into all of this?

Will our karma disolve and we get off the wheel of life perhaps become Avatars?

Hell if I know!

Any comments?

I don't know how much farther we can go... but this is how it was explained to me, at least the visualization end of the explanation of how things were set up...

http://www.catthause.com/sarada/astrald/sectionmaplabels.jpg

She has explained that to me in such a way that many a book has failed, a true wise being in and of herself indeed and a good friend I'm glad to say.

[Nagual]

Just try this: http://www.catthause.com/sarada/astrald/astral.htm

[alpine9]

When we reach the state of enlightment is that state permanent, and if we stop our practice will it fade?

After that state can we still go deeper?

Is cosmic conciousness, superconciusness and enlightment the same?

Were does kundalini fit into all of this?

Will our karma disolve and we get off the wheel of life perhaps become Avatars?

Hell if I know!

Any comments?