Just broke through.

[Hephaestus]

quote:Originally posted by amed

Then, the pencil suddenly jerked 1 cm to the left

Course it did.

[amed]

I saw it with my own eyes.  It really did move, and it doesn't affect me a bit if there are those out there that doubt me.  I wasn't even trying to make it move.  In fact, I debated to include that minor detail late last night while typing the experience here, and it appears I should have left it out.  It seems to be a sensitive subject to some.


On a side note, however, I've heard talk of these 'psi powers' as detrimental to one's spiritual advancement.  After last night's events, I agree.  After it moved, subsequent attempts to reach the same state had me focusing on MOVING the object, rather than just BEING.  It definitely clouded my thoughts.  For the longest time, the fact that it moved with my mind demanded all my attention and aspirations.  That's when I quit and came here.

It reminded me of a Buddhist Meditation book I read long ago.  It mentioned that, after years of dilligence, a sativa will reach a state of awareness and perception where beings of light and deities will be visible to him or her.  The book strongly demands to ignore it, to even go as far as slashing it with a mental sword.  Its explanation: You are not enlightened, why stop to dilly dally?

I now understand that reasoning.

Amed

[lateralus897]

Very interesting. I myself actually do little things like that when I'm bored, though differently. I'm going to take your procedure into consideration, because it all seems logical to work for me. I have somewhat of a concept of the something "above" that is guiding us, but I have not yet experienced that moment of self reflection. Thank you for your post, and keep it up.

[Anonymous]

The results of the pencil moving sound like the results of Empty Force qigong, though I think you've achieved the same thing without the numerous decades of training, but in a different way. Masters of Empty Force can push and pull people who are on the other side of walls. Or even hold people down on the floor over the phone. I've got to try your method and see if it works for me. I have no desire to learn Empty Force but I do find it fascinating.

[amed]

That's interesting.  I have not heard of this before, this Empty Force qigong.  I'll do some google searches on it when I have more time to find out more.

I now believe that faith has one of the larger roles to play in any method.. trance, obe, meditation..  This was not the first time I had attempted something like this, but my heart and emotion was really into it this time.  I really believed what I was doing.  And as a result, this experience has reflected positively into my daily life.  Although my personal faith was strong before, this event has made it even stronger.

Thanks for the comments!

[Anonymous]

This realization about the pencil is actually doing you a favor. Now you have reached a new level of distraction. You must learn to tune it out. You must be like a straight line. You have an earnest intent, and you must carry it out, regardless of what else happens. Even if your room disappears and you go through a wormhole, keep your focus. You ARE spiritually advancing and becoming enlightened. This knowledge will help me as well, if I reach that stage. I once put my whole mind into a spoon trying to bend it. It didn't work, and I think the reasons you have suggested is why.

To try to obtain something by going after its illusion is like trying to pick up the hologram of an object in hopes of obtaining the object. You can try, but it remains where it is. One must find the source of the hologram (the illusion), the object itself, in order to obtain the desired result.

The pencil is your illusion, your distraction to what you are really trying to achieve. But it is also connected with your goal.

[amed]

Thanks for the reply.  I find your comments both stimulating and insightful.

Last summer, I also made a go at bending a spoon.  I was trying to develop a novel approach, but it never moved or changed.  I held off to perhaps try again in the near future.

I think you're right on the money.  I've always read about this certain distraction, and it never never was useful to me in any way, until now.  I'm just thankful at this I guess.. any experience that reaffirms faith is one I'd wish on anyone.

I'm different now.  While growing up, I had always had a certain curiosity when it came to psychic and telekinetic phenomenon.  I had tried moving things in the past.  In fact, last week I was trying to move the pinwheel on the thumbtack; a technique I had read about from this very forum.  Now, I have finally proved it, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I am (WE ARE) capable of it, even in such a small degree, and that means a lot to me.  However, it is now the enemy.  When I meditate on an object, my mind is quick with anticipation.  It is a bit harder to settle, yet much clearer.  And thus, it has created a new mountain to climb.

Amed

[Anonymous]

If it's any help, you can always meditate on a spot on a wall. THAT won't move (unless of course you somehow manage to separate the atoms that make up the spot and then move them []).

[Ash]

this reminds me of an experience I had several years ago. I posted a few days ago in a different thread that I was taught telekinesis in a dream. It felt very very real and after I was able to move objects around in my dream easily I said to my teacher "Wow, this is amazing! Am I going to be able to do this in real life when I wake up?" My teacher smiled and asked me why I wanted to. I thought about it for a while and I realized that there is absolutely no reason why I would want to move things around with my mind that would be beneficial to my spiritual development. Interesting....

[amed]

It seems my etheric/astral self has benefitted from this experience as well.  Have any of you noticed that we tend to act different in our dreams and in our out of body experiences?  It's like we are more influenced by our higher energies.. much less dense.

Anyhow, I woke up early this morning.. read for an hour, then went back to bed.  Suddenly, I snapped to and I was stuck halfway out of my body (I tend to leave my body 7/10 times if I use this method).  But this time the experience was like none other.  This time, I could actually see my etheric hands, and I seemed more in control of the entire situation.  I never actually see my own energy.. so this was a first and quite exciting.
After shuffling around for a bit, I realized I was perpindicular to my body.. my chest was sticking out of my bunked bed and my legs were somewhere down below.  This is where I noticed a major change.. new ideas came to my head in this out of body state.  Usually, I'd become excited and just float around the room.. but it appears I have more focus now.  I felt the urge to lift my legs up.. and I floated in an indian style position and meditated, using the same technique I first talked about in this post.  This is the first time I had attempted anything like this out of the body.. it was very peaceful..

ALSO!  I want to ask anyone that's reading this about something.  Another strange thing happened to me when I was doing energy work before sleep last nite.  I was just laying there, pondering life/etc.. when I suddenly was come over with such a horrible feeling of dread and anguish.  This is unlike anything I'd ever felt before, at least that I could remember.  As I began to spiral down (emotional spiral), I literally fought myself back by thinking of 'source/god'.. telling myself that I had no reason to feel and think these thoughts.  I felt normal again.. then suddenly I felt the strange emotional pull again and more VERY intense feels of hopelessness/dread/anguish, however you want to describe it came over me in a wave.  I was being forced into this feeling.  I again thought of 'source/god', and reaffirmed that I had nothing to worry about.  It didn't happen again.  Was this a negative attack?  My feeling is a rather strong neg passed by me and decided to try something.

all the best,
Amed

[Anonymous]

Yeah, that's probably what happened. Negs are annoying. Usually if I sense one that has the intent of attacking, I try to fight it off with guided imagery of me performing all kinds of crazy martial arts with a sword of light.

[Nay]

quote:Originally posted by Ash

this reminds me of an experience I had several years ago. I posted a few days ago in a different thread that I was taught telekinesis in a dream. It felt very very real and after I was able to move objects around in my dream easily I said to my teacher "Wow, this is amazing! Am I going to be able to do this in real life when I wake up?" My teacher smiled and asked me why I wanted to. I thought about it for a while and I realized that there is absolutely no reason why I would want to move things around with my mind that would be beneficial to my spiritual development. Interesting....

I read or heard somewhere, that the Pyramids where built this way..By lifting the blocks with their minds..[]

[amed]

I found out something today.

First, take a deep breath.  Next, imagine the source of all life, a vast reserve encompassing all dimensions (including all three in which you rest right now) pervading everything around you.  This doesn't have to be specific.. if you're here, you at least wonder if there is something out there unseen silently pushing and pulling us through time.  Envision this as best you can, my concept of this came over time.
Now.. once you have experienced and felt this energy, it should calm you.  If you really believe it, it should be a moment of self reflection and pure faith that no matter what, we're all fine.  Once you have this feeling of peace inside you, express interest on an object (a pencil is what provided my ureka today!) and begin to gaze at it.  First, feel your eyes.. then feel the forehead, the top of your head, followed back the back of your head.  Then, feel your entire presence.  Now, with focus still on this object, simulate the feeling of zooming in.  Don't force it.  This is hard to do, but this is where I broke through:

When you see this object, take note of its three dimensional structure.  Really experience it.  Now.. make it MORE third dimensional in your reality.  If you're starring at a word on a page, make it POP out of the page..

and most importantly.. BREATHE.. when I mentioned earlier about the setup, synchronize breathe, with picture, with feeling, with emotion..

This suddenly came to be in a string of thoughts and concepts.  I am studying chemistry.  I am tired, and I began to meditate on a single word on the page.  I once messed with photoreading, thus, after attemping it for a bit, my creative side brightened and I decided to try a new technique.  Make the word pop out.  Once I settled myself, I tried it, and pretty soon I couldn't even read the word.  The entire page was illegible, and I believe it is because my left brain shuts down and moves all process to the right.  Then, I felt to try this in a more spiritual light, encompassing my entire belief structure.. focusing this entire experiment on my pencil placed on book.  I felt my POV zoom in, the pencil seemed to stand out more.. I could feel my mind quieting.. but this is the first time I've almost put myself into a trance.  Then, the pencil suddenly jerked 1 cm to the left.  This was the first time I moved something this large and this deliberately.  This happened 15 minutes ago.

I felt to record this somewhere so that I can remind myself of how to set this up.. and what better place then online, where it my benefit some of you out there.

Thoughts?

All the best,
Amed

Please ask questions.. I wish could communicate what I experience and now know in a thought, but I have not worked on my telepathy..

amed