Non-sense

[Neutrino4344]

Theirs a five page thread on here that states "not everyone has a soul", and that is very invalid and unlikely. Your soul is you will,intellect, and motivation. So I guess when someones without a soul will, intellect and motivation is absent....A lot of people get mixed up with the spirit and soul.

[James S]

LOL!! Nice one Lola.  

[Nay]

Hahahaha!  

I'm gonna use that one.

[Souljah333]

[mactombs]

Who went down those tubes, who?! Was it Mario? That one guy better be careful looking down there, one of those teethed plants is liable to chomp his face off!

[Tombo]

LOL @Mac

[Neutrino4344]

Can I please have a straight answer...

[Ybom]

Can I please have a straight answer...

Be sure to create a sentence with one of those special question marks first, then you shall recieve an answer, maybe :think: Let me go out on a limb here and guess your question based on your first post. Did you mean to ask...

Is the soul made up of a person's will, intellect, and motivation?

Runlola,
Why's it always gotta be me? Moo!

[bloodsong]

Can I please have a straight question?

Bloodsong

[Souljah333]

y'all are sick

[bloodsong]

Coming from you, I'll count that as a complement!

Bloodsong

[James S]

Can I please have a straight answer...

Ditto to what Bloodsong asked.

For one to have an answer, straight or otherwise, one must first ask a question. I saw no question in the original post, only a statement.

[Wronski Feint]

I think itd be nice to get a question at all, no matter its straightness.

[bloodsong]

Where did Cookie Monster come from!?!  That is really cool, Lola.

Bloodsong

[Souljah333]

I wouldn't be pushing this point, except that it happens so frequently...I have to wonder...from whence the behavior stems?!?

Whether a question was asked or not, whether it made sense or not...is beside the point. Two options are available that seem most logical
1) (involving interest) is to respond/engage in a manner that is in fitting with the original post.
2) (if you're not interested) = don't post at all.

What happened instead is this typical behavior I'm coining the "AP Pack Attack". Three moderators felt compelled to jump on Neutrino4344 butt. THREE!?! You can all take your time defending yourself if you wish, but that's just plain ridiculous in my opinion.

All I can assume is that people here are bored and trying to stir up some s--t, or that some folk that have been here for awhile are tired with going over the same subjects time and time again. either way as far as the moderators are concerned...maybe it's time to sit down and take a good long look at what the position entails, and whether or not your heart is still in it?
again...to me, it just feels extremely deviant.

maybe there should be limited terms for moderators. three months perhaps?!? maybe it should be something the entire forum gets an opportunity to vote on. keep the whole thing in check. keep it humble. mix it up a little?!?

i know there are a lot of dedicated AP members who think it's great just the way it is, but i'm not one of them. i see a lot of areas for improvement, but mostly it's with attitudes...not the forum itself...and a dozen or so new smileys ain't gonna cut it. i have a sense that nothings going to change...still i refuse to sit idly by while the pack nips at fellow members just for the fun of it. i think the response on this (if any) will prove interesting. who feels it necessary to defend themselves, and who will try and turn on me to take the focus off themselves.
on the other hand...not responding is just as sad.

Sincerely
The Den Mother
(at heart, not in status)

[Wronski Feint]

I think sombody wants to be a mod...


You may live in a world where people vote and everybody gets a turn, but thats not the way it works on the internet.  You cant pass around the ability to delete posts and all those great powers every few months cause you dont like whos mod.   And nobody is attacking anyone, you start babbling on about somthing that nobody can see what youre saying, we are going to tell you about it.   The internet isnt a place where everything is nice and everything is fair, its based on senority and who you know.  If sombody is friends with the admin of a site, they can become admin or mods also.  Its just the way it works, theres not much you can do about it.  You cant just walk into a forum and become a mod, you must be here for a while, learn how things work, be an active member etc.  I think the system is working as good as it can while keeping the peace.   Its not like theres a bunch of flamming going on or anything.   And sadly, if a mod dissagrees with you, then you are at their mercy they could ban you and theres nothing you  can do, youre a thousand miles away and with the click of a buttion you can be disconnected.  

Im talking in the most extreme cases though, not all mods(and certainly none here) are ruthless and cruel like ive seen on some forums.  You better be glad its as good as it is.  We are allowed alot of room to argue and stuff.

[Souljah333]

I think somebody wants to be a mod...

WRONGski! Sadly mistaken...I've got my own forum that keeps me pretty busy, where there are no mods. Possibly down the road there might be a need for a few if it ever gets that large, but i wouldn't allow them to nip at other members in that manner. just bcuz someone is elected to moderate, doesn't give them (imo) the right to badger or throw their weight around.

mod's need to be moderated as well, and lately this forum is pretty much without parents...if you get my drift.
...judging from your response i'm guessing you don't want to.
that's fine. i couldn't care one way or the other...they were just suggestions. not ultimatums for perfection and absolute union.
that's crazy talk! not the way it works online, not the way it works in real life, not the way it even works in the astral. but you felt compelled to state your facts...and that's good enough for me.

my point again...as it will most likely get buried under blather is...
THREE mod's in A ROW...jumped on his s--t! 'nough said.

[NickJW]

blah blah blah
nobody cares. :blahblah:

[James S]

THREE mod's in A ROW...jumped on his s--t! 'nough said.

Hiya sweety,

You were waiting for this one weren't you.  

We've never made any secret that we don't permit preaching, especially of the  "I've got the only truth and everyone else is deluded" kind. That's why we've had to clamp down here. It's happened before, and most definitely not just for christian preachers. Nobody is welcome here who wants to steamroller the beliefs of others just so they can lay down their own.

In the past ohh...10 months or so, there's been quite a turnover in mods. Inguma, Frank, Nay and I are the only old-timers left, In fact Inguma is the real old-timer here. He's been a mod pretty much from the start.

Adrian looks for people with known expertise in particular topic areas, and have proven to have a generally good and fair nature.
Don't forget, just because we've got the word "moderator" below our name doesn't mean we can't engage in debates and be as opinionated as anyone else.

Also, we are ourselves policed. Adrian is the supreme being of this forum, and cares a great deal about what happens here. Don't think that a moderator can't be given the sack for inappropriate behaviour. Its happened!

Besides, I like to have my posts picked apart by someone else. It keeps me thinking, and keeps my ideas from going stale. Whether we care to admit it or not, so much of what we are comes from reflections of the thoughts of others.

Please rest assured dear lady, if we are pricked, we too bleed.


Blessings,
James.

[bloodsong]

Souljah,

You wanted to know why I made the comment about taking your "sick" comment as a complement.  Yes, I am taking this out of PM world as a way to make a point so that people here won't have to repeat each other!

First off, the original post was commented on a few times, we asked for clarification in so many words.  We only got it from each other, not from the original poster, so forgive us if we sink into a bit of sarcastic cynicism, it happens when you have quite a few people of similar intelligence and tastes around each other.

As for stirring up s--t, you have some nerve accusing others of that from some of your post history!  You always hide behind the "I was taken incorrectly" angle, but even those posts are blatantly caustic!  Before you accuse others of being immoral, take a look in the mirror.

You remind me of those in power in the United States right now, if they accuse someone else of something, you can bet they got the accusation from their own personal history, just like you!

So, how can I take your calling me sick as a complement, easy.  I looked at what I said prior to the comment, then I looked at the comment, thought about it, and decided that the accusation was baseless and just plain wrong!

As a final point, you asked if I could argue my point in an intelligent manner in your message to me.  I placed the response here as I know you are already biased against me and any response is incorrect and ignorant, therefore, I ask for feedback from those willing to give it here in the public forum, is this intelligence at work, or just foolishness?

Bloodsong

[jilola]

Here's one straight answer, figure out an appropriate question.

Some souls are a body. All bodies are souls.

To me the question is not of having or not having a souls as that's all that anything is. The question is how well that fact is understood and even more significantly expressed.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[Wronski Feint]

not the way it works online, not the way it works in real life, not the way it even works in the astral.

This isnt real life, its the internet  .   And yeah, youre pretty much at the mods and admin's disposal.  If they agree that you get banned, or whatever, then thats what happens, no discussion no nothing.   So it pretty much rests upon them.  Theres nothing you can do to stop them, its not illegal its their forums, they can run it like they want.  It may be unfair, but what can you do?

[James S]

A Message from the Moderators.

Good citizens of the Astral Pulse,

It has come to our attention that there are elements within this community that consider the actions of the moderators to be unfair or unreasonable.

We are greatly disheartened to be recieving such reports, and wish to emphasise to all that we, the Moderators of the Astral Pulse Forum, have an ongoing commitment to ensuring fair and impartial treatment to all members, regardless of race, religion, political alignment, or opinion.

We would ask all members of this forum to work with us towards the goal of peace and harmony on this site. To that end, if you have knowledge of any member who has a dispute with our caring and generous methods, please notify us.

Members who bare grudges against our policies, should be considered dissidents, even terrorists, seeding their malicious propaganda amongst the good members of this site with the obvious attempt to pervert the truth, and cause unrest and dissobedience within this community.
Such evil elements must be cleansed from our wonderful society of love & light.

Hail and peace be with you all.
The Moderators.

[James S]

NEIN!!
err... I mean, no.
:shifty:

[Souljah333]

dear james,

unfortunately i am unable to find the humor in that last post.

We are greatly disheartened to be receiving such reports, and wish to emphasis to all that we, the Moderators of the Astral Pulse Forum, have an ongoing commitment to ensuring fair and impartial treatment to all members, regardless of race, religion, political alignment, or opinion.

first off i highly doubt any of you are greatly disheartened, and secondly a "commitment to fair & impartial treatment"?!? right (we are talking about AP aren't we?). such an appropriate use of symbolism though; for that you are congratulated.

the only thing i have reason to reply to is...

Nobody is welcome here who wants to steamroller the beliefs of others just so they can lay down their own.

i'm not sure that Neutrino4344 (for instance) was even allowed due course to establish anything in the way of steamrolled beliefs, but it definitely didn't stop y'all from clamping down. that's the extent of my issues with "some" mod's...that the discussion is haulted before it even gets started. sure you can say the mod's are just members and can lay comment anywhere they please. however bcuz they carry some weight for newer members...when they come out of the gate in attack mode...i believe it sends a bad message, putting the original poster on the defensive (or curbing his/her path of thought).
in this behavior i find little that is intelligent, fair or impartial.

dear wronski feint,

It may be unfair, but what can you do?

just be yourself...and speak up where you see injustice.

and last but not least...dear bloodsong,

As for stirring up s--t, you have some nerve accusing others of that from some of your post history! You always hide behind the "I was taken incorrectly" angle, but even those posts are blatantly caustic! Before you accuse others of being immoral, take a look in the mirror.

1) i challenge you to find a thread where i ever threw the first punch! 2) i'm not hiding behind anything and 3) i never said anything about morals.
to me morals are a charade.

As a final point, you asked if I could argue my point in an intelligent manner in your message to me. I placed the response here as I know you are already biased against me and any response is incorrect and ignorant, therefore, I ask for feedback from those willing to give it here in the public forum, is this intelligence at work, or just foolishness?

personally...just plain foolishness, but that's okay.
i asked you if you could "back it up"...not argue your point. (that's why i added the word "intelligent"). if you know i'm already against you...then you know nothing. as for taking this out of PM i personally didn't see the need to do that, but do as you will. you stated...in round-about-english why you did so...you're looking for support for your side. i hope you find it. i'm sure you will...more than that i hope you find the strength in your own understanding so you're not always subject to exterior support.

jilola seems to be the most intelligent here! bypassing the non-sense, and going back to the topic :exclamation: