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fuzzyquark

knucklebrain,

Great post, I've asked most of the same questions and am as frustrated as you.  I've thought of telling my "higher self" to go and screw itself (myself?) for sending me into this mess!

I tried the astral projection techniques in Robert Bruce's book - guess what?  Just once, out of hundreds of attempts I actually got the vibrations, like electricity pulsing through me & seriously racing heartbeat.  Scared the living cr*p out of me I can tell you, but at least I got some kind of clue that all the stuff people talk about here could be true after all.  What's really frustrating me is that I tried to repeat it 100's of times and it never came back.

All the best, hope things work out better for you.
FQ.

Ensoñador

Hello Kevin!

I dont believe reincarnation neither incarnation is real. ¡Whats born into existence is never real!  All things in time sphere never reach the point where we can say they are real. Realness cant be treathened.  Reincarnation happens only in our minds, life and death too. Step aside your own dream,... where you have always really been.  :)
 
To know your Higher Self you have to do nothing, stop concerning on the meaning of life. Dont search the answers, recieve them with an open heart and a calm mind. Forget all what you have learned, or read, empty yourself so answers may come. You cant reach God, let him reach you. Acceptance will give you understanding.  :wink:


Thats what I think and my advise for you, just in case I,m in the position to do so.  :lol:

spiritualquest

Hello...
I am new to this sight, but I have been achieving enlightenments over a period of ten years now which has led to a fulfilled  life of peace, serenity, and understanding. I just stepped in to offer a very basic exersize to try to help you understand. Choose your favorite time of day,early dawn or when the sun is setting over a horizon, whatever appeals to you most. Sit quietly taking a moment to enjoy your surroundings. Find something that appeals to you to focus on.(preferably
something to do with nature)I suggest something in nature due to the fact every living thing has its own energy. A tree, A flower. Continue to see it for what it is.It's color, shape, the simple things that you appreciate about the object you chose. Focus on it's beauty, Soon you will notice as if you are meditating on it, how everything around it begins to fade in color, in texture, and your object becomes more prominent. What you are doing is appreciating (a form of loving) and arriving at a point where you are actually exchanging energies with your object. Ask yourself How does this make me feel? That my friend is the very basic beginings of understanding basic love and enlightenment.
  From what I have read in these posts is anger, fustration, and much negativity, which all become major blocks on your road to enlightening yourself spiritually and eventually to even higher spiritual experiences This is basically where I started during a time of great frustration.
Once this is achieved I would more than love to share many other experiences and where they have taken me on my long jouney of spiritual understanding.
May peace and love be with you all
SP

LittleNinja

Hey spiritualquest

You know what?  Sometimes I do that too, though, not for the sake of meditaion (I didn't even know that it was meditation). I do it because I love how the earth is shaped in a special way to form such a beautiful work of art. And so sometimes, i would just find place to sit and just admire at all the beautiful things in the environment (or while on a car driving home and seeing the sun setting with its beautiful rays of light casting different shades of color on the trees and buildings).  It's very cool. 8)

Anyway, your post is great. :)

Have a fantastic week everyone.

Love & Peace
w/ LittleNinja

spiritualquest

Thankyou Little Ninja,
I don't use this for meditation either,( I wanted to put forth the focus point as if you were meditating) , but one has to learn to appreciate and learn to love all that is internal and external, as I'm sure you understand we can't recieve until we learn to give.Through these basic practices of appreciation we eventually come to understand the energy exchange with all things, and how it makes us feel, and how these feelings can start to help us to let go so we may eventually begin to replace the negative feelings,thus enhancing the ability to appreciate and love, bringing us to a new realization of self and all that which surrounds us.Opening the doors of wonderment, mystery, and understanding that open for us once we achieve these basic principals.
 I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing.I don't want to do that.I had just hoped that I can lend to some basic understanding through some of the fustration I have been reading in these threads.When you so truely desire the knowledge for any type of spiritual understanding, and eventually development one has to learn the basics first. Kinda of like we all must learn to stand before we can learn to walk. I hope that I helped   lend a little insight to those whom are still seeking.
May peace be with all,
SP :D

Dusty

I must say that for me meditation has been a BIG key to my spiritual growth. Through meditation I've been able to connect with my grandmother who's passed on(she likes to play tricks with the lights :lol: and sometimes I hear her extremely loud while in meditation) and I also get some wonderful and insights that I haven't been able to get prior to meditating. The thing is, meditating takes alot of hard work and as others have said, you have to be PERSISTENT and never give up!!! The results are compounded over the months and years. As one metaphysician put it, "if reaching enlightenment was that easy, many would have misused it's power and would have destroyed this planet a long time ago". I remember another metaphysician saying that meditating is kinda like climbing the rungs of a ladder, each step bringing you one step closer to your goal. I don't want to get into this too much because I know everyone has different opinions when it comes to spirituality, and I don't want to step on anyone's beliefs, but one thing I can say for sure is that the more you meditate, the more you become in "tune" with life. You have less accidents, things just happen to go your way, you find yourself getting less angered at things that would normally anger you, you smile more, You have flashes of spiritual insight that you never had previously, you open up psychic development etc.....  None of these things ever came to me prior to heavy meditating. Currently I meditate about 2 hours a day and have done so for about the last 10 years, although I did miss a week once when I went to Europe.  I know 2 hours a day isn't alot, but it's the persistence that's paid off for me.

Believe me, the benefits are really worth it. To me, reading books just gives you an academic sense of spirituality and it's hard to internalize that.

I really can't put in words what meditating has done for me, but I now know why it's preached so much in spiritual/metaphysical books.

As far as the comments regarding those who have been frustrated from a lack of results through meditating, I know where you are coming from, because I was once there myself!!!

For those learning how to meditate, take Robert Bruce's advice and pick up some of the hemi sync tapes fromt he Monroe Institue. The Gateway Voyage is the best!!

Also, when I meditate, I also have to create the mood, so some new age music(kitaro is my favorite) and some incense from India (Nag Champa) really creates the mood for me :)
99% of incense is yucky to me, so I'm really picky when it comes to incense :)

One other thing, to many people, the amount of time you have to sacrifice in meditation, isn't worth it for them to embark on such a journey, and I can completely understand that. In my younger days, I didn't feel it was worth my time either, but as the old saying goes, "when the student is ready, the master appears"    :wink:


Dusty ---> Who's still FAR from being enlightened (long way to go there).

Dusty

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I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing.I don't want to do that.I had just hoped that I can lend to some basic understanding through some of the fustration I have been reading in these threads.When you so truely desire the knowledge for any type of spiritual understanding, and eventually development one has to learn the basics first. Kinda of like we all must learn to stand before we can learn to walk. I hope that I helped lend a little insight to those whom are still seeking.
May peace be with all,

good post! Thanx for sharing your info!  :) Yea, I don't like to sound like I"m lecturing either. I'm just relaying what's worked well for me and sharing my experience and knowledge :).  Your comments regarding anger, negativity etc are very true... Releasing those emotions so that they don't control you was one of the most difficult things I had to overcome! Getting over that was the hardest part. Although at this point in my life, I can now see how much they had held me back before I started getting serious.

LittleNinja

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I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing.I don't want to do that.I had just hoped that I can lend to some basic understanding through some of the fustration I have been reading in these threads.When you so truely desire the knowledge for any type of spiritual understanding, and eventually development one has to learn the basics first. Kinda of like we all must learn to stand before we can learn to walk. I hope that I helped lend a little insight to those whom are still seeking.
May peace be with all,

good post! Thanx for sharing your info!  :) Yea, I don't like to sound like I"m lecturing either. I'm just relaying what's worked well for me and sharing my experience and knowledge :).  Your comments regarding anger, negativity etc are very true... Releasing those emotions so that they don't control you was one of the most difficult things I had to overcome! Getting over that was the hardest part. Although at this point in my life, I can now see how much they had held me back before I started getting serious.

I don't think you guys were lecturing.  I thought that both of your posts were very helpful (well.... helpful for me, i'm not sure about the others), and very good.


Quote...one thing I can say for sure is that the more you meditate, the more you become in "tune" with life. You have less accidents, things just happen to go your way, you find yourself getting less angered at things that would normally anger you, you smile more, You have flashes of spiritual insight that you never had previously, you open up psychic development etc..... None of these things ever came to me prior to heavy meditating.

Hmmm..... I dont know Dusty, i've been nicknamed "Smiley" by my teacher because he thinks that i smile too much (not just my teacher but my friends as well), and i don't meditate at all. I'm also seeing less accidents in my life as well, as if they were all meant to happened to me. It's weird that a lot of what you described has so much relevance to my current life situation.  I guess what i can make out of this is that i'm probably doing some kind of meditation that i am unaware of? :shock:  :?

QuoteTo me, reading books just gives you an academic sense of spirituality and it's hard to internalize that.

I couldn't agree more.  I believe that personal 'experience' is far greater than just reading from a book or listening to what someone else describes about their own experience.  However, i must say that i love to read and listen to other people's stories.

QuoteAlso, when I meditate, I also have to create the mood, so some new age music(kitaro is my favorite) and some incense from India (Nag Champa) really creates the mood for me

Hey i have one of kitaro's cd in my car.  Actually, it isn't mine, it is my brother's..... but what the heck, it doesn't matter whose it is from. And plus, i rarely listen to it. :P  :oops:  I'm always listening to Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, and Damien Rice's music; good stuff.  I'm currently trying to get my hands on Remy Zero, Athlete, and Ed Harcourt cds at a cheap price.  So far, no luck.  

Hehe. i know i'm going off tangent with this. :D

QuoteDusty ---> Who's still FAR from being enlightened (long way to go there).

Don't be modest, now.  :wink:

Anyway, it was nice meeting with you. :)

Have a terrific week, everyone.

Love & Peace
w/ LittleNinja

Dusty

Quote from: LittleNinja
Quote from: Dusty
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I hope I don't sound like I'm lecturing.I don't want to do that.I had just hoped that I can lend to some basic understanding through some of the fustration I have been reading in these threads.When you so truely desire the knowledge for any type of spiritual understanding, and eventually development one has to learn the basics first. Kinda of like we all must learn to stand before we can learn to walk. I hope that I helped lend a little insight to those whom are still seeking.
May peace be with all,

good post! Thanx for sharing your info!  :) Yea, I don't like to sound like I"m lecturing either. I'm just relaying what's worked well for me and sharing my experience and knowledge :).  Your comments regarding anger, negativity etc are very true... Releasing those emotions so that they don't control you was one of the most difficult things I had to overcome! Getting over that was the hardest part. Although at this point in my life, I can now see how much they had held me back before I started getting serious.

I don't think you guys were lecturing.  I thought that both of your posts were very helpful (well.... helpful for me, i'm not sure about the others), and very good.


Quote...one thing I can say for sure is that the more you meditate, the more you become in "tune" with life. You have less accidents, things just happen to go your way, you find yourself getting less angered at things that would normally anger you, you smile more, You have flashes of spiritual insight that you never had previously, you open up psychic development etc..... None of these things ever came to me prior to heavy meditating.

Hmmm..... I dont know Dusty, i've been nicknamed "Smiley" by my teacher because he thinks that i smile too much (not just my teacher but my friends as well), and i don't meditate at all. I'm also seeing less accidents in my life as well, as if they were all meant to happened to me. It's weird that a lot of what you described has so much relevance to my current life situation.  I guess what i can make out of this is that i'm probably doing some kind of meditation that i am unaware of? :shock:  :?

QuoteTo me, reading books just gives you an academic sense of spirituality and it's hard to internalize that.

I couldn't agree more.  I believe that personal 'experience' is far greater than just reading from a book or listening to what someone else describes about their own experience.  However, i must say that i love to read and listen to other people's stories.

QuoteAlso, when I meditate, I also have to create the mood, so some new age music(kitaro is my favorite) and some incense from India (Nag Champa) really creates the mood for me

Hey i have one of kitaro's cd in my car.  Actually, it isn't mine, it is my brother's..... but what the heck, it doesn't matter whose it is from. And plus, i rarely listen to it. :P  :oops:  I'm always listening to Jack Johnson, Ben Harper, and Damien Rice's music; good stuff.  I'm currently trying to get my hands on Remy Zero, Athlete, and Ed Harcourt cds at a cheap price.  So far, no luck.  

Hehe. i know i'm going off tangent with this. :D

QuoteDusty ---> Who's still FAR from being enlightened (long way to go there).

Don't be modest, now.  :wink:

Anyway, it was nice meeting with you. :)

Have a terrific week, everyone.

Love & Peace
w/ LittleNinja


hi there littleninja..
  well, I think you can gain different degrees of spirituality without meditating, but meditating is kinda like the shortcut and will get ya there much faster. I think some people are gifted and perhaps meditation isn't necessary, but in my opinion and based on the books I've read(Robert's Bruce's included), meditation is a shortcut to the process. It'a almost always requried if you want to make any kind of spiritual contact to a degree of satisfaction. I could never do that prior to learning to go into deep meditation. When you meditate, you raise your vibrations, which makes non physical communication possible. You really can't do that without meditating.

Now, if you just talking about becoming a more peaceful and loving person etc, then yes, you can get by without meditating. It really all depends on what your goals are, but for my goals, meditating has been mandatory and it's made a HUGE difference in my life that I couldn't get without meditating . It's all about your goals and what you want to get out of it.

best of luck to ya :)

Dusty