How do you define a spritually evolved Being?

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Course, there's that group of scientists who want to try making a micro-blackhole in a lab overseas (near Switzerland?). That idea, I find, to be the stupidest idea ever. If I can remember where I got the information about that from, I'll post it.

[Telos]

If he were spiritually evolved, the boy would not have killed himself.

Why not?

[James S]

Why not?

Because a higher evolved being would understand the reason they were born into a particular situation, and what lessons and experiences they came here to understand.

Killing one's self is like playing a video game and switching it off before you've completed the level. You don't gain the knowledge or experience  required to move to the next level. If a soul does not learn the lessons or gain the experiences it set out to in a particular lifetime, that soul will then return to the same or similar situation until the knowledge required has been gained. This then allows the soul to evolve.

Higher evolution really has nothing to do with power, how to goin it or use it. We already have all the power within us we could ever require to do anything we want. It's all a matter of coming into full conscious awareness of our potential, living in that potential, achieving mastery.

It's probably also worth pointing out here that a higher evolved being would no sooner take the life of another than they would themselves. The more evolved a soul becomes the more the realisation that all souls are ultimately connected - the "oneness" that you've probably heard spoken of. With realisation of "oneness" comes the realisation that to harm another is to ultimately harm one's self. The most important aspect here is one of love. The higher a soul evolves, the more it acts out of pure love for others.

As to karma, this is not the universe punishing you. The universe is completely impartial. Karma is a soul understanding that it has done something that has hindered its evolution, so it must go back and learn the lessons needed to grow past the particular situation.

my 2.001 cents worth.

Lines,
I heard about the accidental Black Hole and the Hawkings radiation too.
I couldn't help but to laugh at the idea that if they'd actually succeeded in creating a Black Hole, there'd be no point in reporting it.....there'd be no-one left alive to tell!  

Regards,
James.

[beavis]

Why not?
Because a higher evolved being would understand the reason they were born into a particular situation, and what lessons and experiences they came here to understand.

I am not perfect. I'm not always where I am because I tried to come here. How do you know you didnt come here by accident?

Higher evolution really has nothing to do with power, how to goin it or use it. We already have all the power within us we could ever require to do anything we want. It's all a matter of coming into full conscious awareness of our potential, living in that potential, achieving mastery.

If I have all that power, why do I get tired after doing psychic things? Its not cause I think I'm tired. Something necessary to psychic things is slowly depleted. Even when I trick my mind into thinking I have a huge amount of power, it rarely demonstrates more than pushing small things across the floor. Not believing you have power can be a bottleneck to power, but when that is gone, limited energy is an other bottleneck. If you believe more, you still wont have enough energy for the amount of power you describe.

It's probably also worth pointing out here that a higher evolved being would no sooner take the life of another than they would themselves. The more evolved a soul becomes the more the realisation that all souls are ultimately connected - the "oneness" that you've probably heard spoken of. With realisation of "oneness" comes the realisation that to harm another is to ultimately harm one's self.

Theoretically lets say theres a crazy man with a sword holding you down. He says you must cut off one of your fingers or he'll cut off your head. He ties your finger into a guillotine and hands the trigger string to you. He starts cutting off your head. Do you pull the guillotine string and cut off your finger, or get your head cut off?

Regardless of if "oneness" is true, its still better to kill 1 person to save 2 people from death, than to let the 2 die. I dont mean that should be legal to do, cause the government would use it as an excuse to kill for no reason. Assuming you dont know which people are worth more than the others Example: prostitute is worth more than murderer.

[Tombo]

Telos

Why? Does his mother's opinion, that he was destined for a greater existence in a different form, mean nothing? Didn't he give up material existence?

My question is: why was he born on this world then? I do ^not say that he wasnt evolved per se, it is just that I don't see reason to assume he was. Do you see them?
Usually somebody kills himself because he is unhappy, tries to run away from something, overwhelmed by problems, this, I do not consider evolved.
And by killing himself he causes pain for otheres, not good as well

Maybe you've found your definition of spirituality, then - subjecting all or some control of your fate to other powers (imaginary or otherwise).

No, no that I would consider the opposite of Sprituality. But killing oneself is a bit a harsh action of taking control I think

Lines

Smart people created nuclear weapons because people in power told/forced them to.

Usually not, I think.Some Smart People like to see how far they can push it, plus they are greedy, selfish, etc like anybody else.

But there are lots of good things that will be invented too, and thats why we need more smart people.

I'm not against smart People! All I try to say is that IQ has very little to do with spiritual development, IMO. Smart People can be very mean and do terrible things and smart people can be very noble and do great things.

Or lets put it another way Spiritual development is a process, you evolve , IQ is by definition a static value, No Progress in IQ there is. The two things should not be mixed up.

Course, there's that group of scientists who want to try making a micro-blackhole in a lab overseas (near Switzerland?). That idea, I find, to be the stupidest idea ever. If I can remember where I got the information about that from, I'll post it.

That would be in CERN then near Geneva. I'm Swiss, I'll keep you guys posted when I see the horizon getting dark....lol

I couldn't help but to laugh at the idea that if they'd actually succeeded in creating a Black Hole, there'd be no point in reporting it

They probably have a plan to keep things under control, the hole would probably be keept in a vaccum or something

Beavis

I am not perfect. I'm not always where I am because I tried to come here. How do you know you didnt come here by accident?

Good point, I guess we have to thrust other who say it isn't so..

If I have all that power, why do I get tired after doing psychic things? Its not cause I think I'm tired. Something necessary to psychic things is slowly depleted. Even when I trick my mind into thinking I have a huge amount of power, it rarely demonstrates more than pushing small things across the floor. Not believing you have power can be a bottleneck to power, but when that is gone, limited energy is an other bottleneck. If you believe more, you still wont have enough energy for the amount of power you describe.

I think he meant we have a infinite potential, but we might not have access to it right now. maybe you have to evolve more before you can tap that energy? Can you really push things around? How long did you parctice?

Regardless of if "oneness" is true, its still better to kill 1 person to save 2 people from death, than to let the 2 die.

It is pretty unlikely that thuis situation will pop up. If it does I believe it may have a reason and that when you listen to your heart You'll know what to do. It is probably better to try to save both.