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Quote from: StookieI've read that some believe Jesus was a reincarnated Buddha, until he was baptized by John the Baptist, which is when the Buddha left and the Christ entered. It was done like this because the Christ could only live in a human body for no more than about three years (within the time of the crucifixion.) Jesus seems like a different person after the baptism in the gospels.

(how's that for bringing 2 opposing religions together?)

Even though the religions as they are now are vastly different, I think (personally) that the ideas that both figures started with were very similar.
1-The world is temporal, therefore not real
2-Know yourself to overcome the world.
I would say the main difference was in the belief in an afterlife- it was a given in Jesus' time (in the form of transmigration or permanence of Spirit)
Gautama, or Buddha, however, at least in some types of Buddhism, negates the existence of the Atman.  (Even though Mahayana Buddhism does believe in the Atman)  But reincarnation and transmigration are very similar ideas, and were what was believed in the times.
The ideas of heaven and hell as afterlife destinations (or eschatological destinations) modern christianity accepts/enforces came from the greek hades/elysian fields ideas they borrowed from the greeks, and the developement of both religions have drifted them apart due to historical trends and the populations that believe in them.  But both were founded by Mystics with similar ideas.
IMHO, of course.

Leyla

Hell, I've heard that all these "risen saviors" are actually the same guy, who reincarnates into every culture so he can live among the people and give his teaching.

As a pagan, however, I recognize that all primitive farming people were very close to the earth.  Th original virgin mother. Mother earth. And her son, who has sprung from her womb: the crop.

To these people, a drought, a flood, or a blight, could mean death for the entire community. They were dependent on the harvest. You can see how this had a powerful effect on religion. Life hung in the balance.

The crop, is cut down and killed in his prime. He dies so that we might live. He is sacrificed.

Both bread and alcohol are made from grain.

"Take of this bread and eat, it is my body. Drink of this wine for it is my blood."

*This ritual was performed by pagans all over the earth long before it was adopted as the catholic mass.


This crop god, john barley corn, jack of the green, the green man, still peeks out at you carved into the walls of the oldest churches in England.

He dies. He is buried. And all the people wait.... They watch the ground with hope and fear. Will he be ressurected??? Will we be saved??? They pray for spring. (Easter)

YES! IT'S A MIRACLE! HE HAS RISEN!

Because...he is a seed.

This explains how he can be his own father. He and the father are one.

NickJW

Very interesting. You know, I'm starting to like you Leyla :grin:

Stookie

QuoteHell, I've heard that all these "risen saviors" are actually the same guy, who reincarnates into every culture so he can live among the people and give his teaching.

From KRS-One's song "Ah Yeah"

This is not the first time I came to the planet
But everytime I come, only a few could understand it
I came as Isis, my words they tried to ban it
I came as Moses, they couldn't follow my commandments
I came as Solomon, to a people that was lost
I came as Jesus, but they nailed me to a cross
I came as Harriet Tubman, I put the truth to Sojourner
Other times, I had to come as Nat Turner
They tried to burn me, lynch me and starve me
So I had to come back as Marcus Garvey, Bob Marley
They tried to harm me, I used to be Malcolm X
Now I'm on the planet as the one called KRS