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RandomName

Allanon, Im sorry if this is interpreted as a flame, but you sir, are a complete and utter fool.

You are blindly preaching a dead mans misinterpretations. Jesus was a psychotic with special abilities and a ^%$#ed up idealism about himself and others.

"He died for your sin"-HE DIED FOR THE PEOPLE OF HIS CURRENT TIMES SIN, SIN IS EVER EVIDENT, SIN IS UNSTOPPABLE, SIN IS A FORCE THAT IS ALWAYS AROUND, HIDING BEHIND TRUTHS THAT YOU PREACH TO BE THE WORD OF GOD!

You claim the bible is the word of god, IT IS A BOOK DAMNIT!. IT IS A TEXT THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, REWRITTEN, AND WRITTEN AGAIN BY FOOLS SUCH AS YOURSELF THAT BELEIVE THEY HOLD A PURPOSE!

NEXT! You are threatening us with your beleifs, which I have forementioned, are wrong. Not only are you lying to yourself, you are sinning by pushing your religion on others with an obknoxious and harmful attitude. Had I not told you this, you would still have sin in your heart and soul when you died, and would plummet to the hellish place you narrow minded christians fear so much.

"ATTENTION ASTRAL PROJECTORS: SATAN DECEIVES YOU!"- No my brother, you deceive yourself at the will of any dark being and all that is wrong, I fear for you and take pity on your soul.
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I have nothing against Christians, but I beleive you have some ideals to sort out.


Allanon, I hope you reconsider your foolish preachings and realize the truth about yourself and others, before you try to teach. Confucious was a fool, an intelligent one, but a fool still, as was Jesus and many other "prophets" mentioned through the ages.

NOBODY KNOWS THEMSELVES OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT THE FACT THEY TRY AND DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTROL OTHERS IS WHAT SETS THEM APART.

Come to me after your death, and THEN you will know the truth, as will I.

I am not perfect, I do not know myself, but I try to deter others from trying to preach lies and misconceptions.

Allanon

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Allanon, Im sorry if this is interpreted as a flame, but you sir, are a complete and utter fool.

You are blindly preaching a dead mans misinterpretations. Jesus was a psychotic with special abilities and a ^%$#ed up idealism about himself and others.


I will agree with you Psi that Christianity and its superiority over man made religons rests on one tennat.......THE RESSURECTION OF JESUS CHRIST.

However it is evident that the testimony of the apostles and the Holy inspired Word of God is not enough "evidence" for you.

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NEXT! You are threatening us with your beleifs, which I have forementioned, are wrong. Not only are you lying to yourself, you are sinning by pushing your religion on others with an obknoxious and harmful attitude. Had I not told you this, you would still have sin in your heart and soul when you died, and would plummet to the hellish place you narrow minded christians fear so much.



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HE DIED FOR THE PEOPLE OF HIS CURRENT TIMES SIN, SIN IS EVER EVIDENT, SIN IS UNSTOPPABLE, SIN IS A FORCE THAT IS ALWAYS AROUND, HIDING BEHIND TRUTHS THAT YOU PREACH TO BE THE WORD OF GOD!



I agree that SIN is ever evident and UNSTOPPABLE save for the power of the Holy Spirit. If you are heavy burden with what you know in your heart to be wrong than all you have to do is lay your pain at the foot of the cross. Christ died for ALL time and not just for the sins of the Jews.

Christians are not better than anyone else!!! This cannot be stressed enough. Christians recognize the JUDGEMENT that comes for all man's crimes and instead of taking the sentance themselves they lay it at the feet of Jesus. Hell is a coming reality for all that refuse the free gift of forgiveness. IT IS NOT HARD TO BE FORGIVEN!!!

Back to the issue of this thread.....When you AP without the protection of the Holy Spirit, you put yourself at the mercy of beings that are beyond your power. You may be decieved by miraculous signs and visions that are put in the mind as seeds that when fully grown and fruited become FALSE FRUITS that blind the Truth. I am sure you believe you live forever without the cross and that is the SPIRIT OF THE ANTI CHRIST. You are fooled into thinking that once you breath your last you will still have the breath of God. No this is a fallacy. The next thing known to the dead will be a RESSURECTION either in or out of the Body of Christ. Be careful that you are looking ahead to the judgement and prepare like a mountain climber as he sets to the summit. There may be safe enough looking paths to the top but in the end without the rope that is Christ you will have no one to catch you if you fall.



eeb

Allanon: what do you care? The only thing you reach with this posts is that people repel your precious christian belief.
Consistent desire and intent are the key to change

Squeek

You are starting to make me want to CONVERT!!!...

To no religion at all.  I'm serious.  Preaching sucks.

You really do think you're better than us all don't you?  Isn't that a sin?  Pride?  I thought so.  You cannot deny this, you posted it yourself.

I quote some smart dude who said this once "Don't fix it if it aint broke"  we aint broke. don't fix us.

~Squeek

PS - I am very critical of spelling, Nay would tell ya that :) And since you're already managed to get me angry with you, I thought I'd go ahead and help you out... just for fun.  Here is a corrected spelling of many of the words that should be known easily.

Resurrection.
Religions.
Sentence.
Purgatory.
Accept.
Believe.
Going.
Incorruptable.
Surely.
Christ.

Man that's enough.  Sheesh...

Allanon

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Allanon: what do you care? The only thing you reach with this posts is that people repel your precious christian belief.

Jesus came not for the righteous but for the sinner. The Gospel first and foremost needs to be brought to those that are really lost. Once everyone has made achoice regarding following Christ than the judgement will be unfolded.

Nay

Allanon...pssssssssst..come here.....closer....nooooo...closer...



SHUT-UP!

Stop quoting all those verses......

You remind me of a younger me...LOL.  when I was in school, the kids would cuss in the hallway and I would stop what I was doing and pray for their souls...Man, was that a waste of time, where the heck did it get me?...Late for class was all!
You can't save everyone...no way, not gonna happen.. and ya know what?  I bet God is laughing his wonderful arse off right now! He is living this whole thing out thru YOU!  He is experiencing what you experience.  That is what we are here for, to experience all things, all emotions... for him..because he can't. You can read all the books you want on how to fly a plane..but until you do, you have NO idea what it is like.  So, here we are..lol  listening to you yell at us about our souls burning away... what a ghastly thought!  And God judging us? what is that? He is not a judging God.. When we die, we judge ourselfs..period!  And let me tell you..that is the worst kind of judgment.
Ahhhh well, I have said my say...which of course isn't much.hehehe but what's a girl to do?...  I only have twenty or so more post till I am a gold..Whooo hoooo [:D]  Wow, that was rude!

Nay. [;)]


Tisha

Remember, everyone, every time someone reacts to this thread, it floats to the top of the heap.  So before you post an angry response, ask yourselves . . . is that where you want it to be?  

Your choice . . . and my two cents . . .

Tisha

Allanon

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Allanon...pssssssssst..come here.....closer....nooooo...closer...



SHUT-UP!

Stop quoting all those verses......

You remind me of a younger me...LOL. when I was in school, the kids would cuss in the hallway and I would stop what I was doing and pray for their souls...Man, was that a waste of time, where the heck did it get me?...Late for class was all!
You can't save everyone...no way, not gonna happen.. and ya know what? I bet God is laughing his wonderful arse off right now! He is living this whole thing out thru YOU! He is experiencing what you experience. That is what we are here for, to experience all things, all emotions... for him..because he can't. You can read all the books you want on how to fly a plane..but until you do, you have NO idea what it is like. So, here we are..lol listening to you yell at us about our souls burning away... what a ghastly thought! And God judging us? what is that? He is not a judging God.. When we die, we judge ourselfs..period! And let me tell you..that is the worst kind of judgment.
Ahhhh well, I have said my say...which of course isn't much.hehehe but what's a girl to do?... I only have twenty or so more post till I am a gold..Whooo hoooo  Wow, that was rude!

Nay.




Jeremiah 1
17 "Get yourself ready! Stand up and say to them whatever I command you. Do not be terrified by them, or I will terrify you before them.


You have a lot of fear and dispair in your writings Nay. It is not something you have to live with anyomore. All those that are heavy burden with the weight of the life of sin can lay it at the foot of the cross. I will pray for you now as I type and hope the Holy Spirit fills your heart with the knowledge of the Truth that is found through the Holy Lamb.

When you are Born Again it really is like being a totally new person. Instead of following the old carnal nature you are allowed to think in the Mind of Christ. In that I mean you feel things much more intensly especially if they have to do with Right and wrong action. It is like you are a small child again when you used to feel guilty just for saying a little cuss word. Your sensitivity to the wants of the Lord fill your heart and soul. You know it is all for the best even though at times it can be hard due to your family and friends unbelief. Seeing a small child can put an ache in your heart because you just dont know how he/she will be brought up. It is a hard burden to carry your own cross but in the end after the good fight is done those found under the banner of the Cross will find the peace that was always there.

I hope I have planted a seed of Truth in the hearts of those who have read this and I pray you give Christ the call to unleash you from the bondage of sin and demons.

RandomName

You said absolutely nothing to refute my claims, and your still uses quotes from a nonexistant book of holy words, and if now more than ever, your a fool to yourself.

Also, SIN IS A ^%$#ing SIN, NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT.
If you want to argue with unbased but partially correct baseball, I can play along :-D/

Fine, if I truly repent a crime I have commited, does that truly change anything in the hearts of those I have affected? NO! Does that change the fact I have commited said crime? NO! Does repenting do a damn thing for religion as a result? NO!

YOU CANNOT TRY TO TELL ME THAT A MAN WILL STILL BE REWARDED AFTER TAKING THE LIFE OF ANOTHER. I DON'T CARE IF HE REPENTS ALL DAY, A MAN IS DEAD, THROUGH AND THROUGH.

Your preaching to a brick wall that has already been built to force out your religion, and if you want to continue to be a jester for your own beleifs, please do so elsewhere. Your no better than a selfish satanist on a "ME ME" ego trip. Your already disliked by quite a few here. My advice, close your mouth, your account, and take your overballistic and idiot wannabe "ME ME" ego trip ELSEWHERE.

YOU TRY TO CONVERT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR RELIGION, PRIDE IS A SIN.

If you truly are religious as you claim to be and aren't just here to tinkle everyone off, then I am happy for you. Go take your OWN PERSONAL BELEIF SYSTEM and KEEP TO YOURSELF.

Many people dislike my Agnosticism, but they never know unless they ask! Keep it that way with yourself.

Evidently you got into a lot of trouble as a child and ticked a LOT of people off, because you can't worry about yourself, which is more annoying unhelpful than you may think. Ever hear the saying "Let Johnny worry about Johnny"?


Akensai

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Once again it should be noted that AP can be dangerous if done without the protection of the Holy Spirit. Go ahead and project but what is it you BELIEVE after your experiences? Do you believe you will live forever and that once your physical body dies you simply "fly" off to the astral? This is FALSE TEACHINGS and the fruit of a bad seed in your mind probably due to conversing with evil spirits that you were not aware of.


How do you know ? I know i know, your going to say its all in the bible, but as there is no proof that anything in the bible is true, how do you justefy any of your "what your doing is EVIL" finger-pointing to us?

It all comes down to wish-belief, because there simply is no proof of  anything in the bible, so i ask you is it right to try to force your belief on someone else whitout any proof that its true ?

Now here is a tought, god gives us a choose right? yes? Ok then why does he test us whitout giving us 2 clear ways? Why doesnt he make sure everyone KNOWS(by giving us proof) the bible is true ? You think thats fair?

Now you can belief anything you want just dont preach anyone about, if i really tought someone must be made clear of a belief i think is true and i have no proof, i would only as far as to make subtle sugestion.Thats what you should be doing instead of presenting yourself as a arogant christian who claims to know it all.

Nay

Awwwww Tisha, I was just kiddin..  No one gets my sense on humor.[:(]

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You have a lot of fear and dispair in your writings Nay. It is not something you have to live with anyomore. All those that are heavy burden with the weight of the life of sin can lay it at the foot of the cross. I will pray for you now as I type and hope the Holy Spirit fills your heart with the knowledge of the Truth that is found through the Holy Lamb.

Wow! you were way off on that! hehehe  No fear or despair here [:D]
I am quite comfortable with my relationship with God and pray for his divine light to protect me every night in my "travels"  So, I am good, thanks anyways..[:)]

Nay. [;)]

eeb

He he Nay, I had imagined you already shouting the two words in front of Allanon :-P, seeing Allanon already with his hairs backwards... ;-P
Consistent desire and intent are the key to change

Allanon

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YOU CANNOT TRY TO TELL ME THAT A MAN WILL STILL BE REWARDED AFTER TAKING THE LIFE OF ANOTHER. I DON'T CARE IF HE REPENTS ALL DAY, A MAN IS DEAD, THROUGH AND THROUGH.



You are quite Right in this statement. There is nothing that can be done to rectify the situation through the flesh. That is why we lay the sin at the foot of the cross and Christ with His perfect sacrifice PAYS THE PENALTY for the crime.

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YOU TRY TO CONVERT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR RELIGION, PRIDE IS A SIN.



Jeremiah 13
16 Give glory to the LORD your God
before he brings the darkness,
before your feet stumble
on the darkening hills.
You hope for light,
but he will turn it to thick darkness
and change it to deep gloom.


You are right. I have Pride in the Son of God. He did something that is so wonderful. As for myself I know I do not measure up to the standard of the Most High God but I am trying to change into the likeness of Christ and live for Him alone.

CHRIST WANTS YOU TO BE FREE. DO NOT CONFORM TO THE PATTERNS OF THIS WORLD ANY LONGER BUT BE TRANSFORMED BY A RENEWING OF YOU MIND. THIS WAY YOU CAN TEST WHAT GOD'S WILL IS. HIS PERFECT, HOLY AND PLEASING WILL.

Tisha

OK, this is at the top of the heap again so I'm not doing extra damage by replying.

We should all get T-shirts:  "Dear God, please protect me from your followers."

And with that I bid this subject adieu!
Tisha

eeb

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That is why we lay the sin at the foot of the cross and Christ with His perfect sacrifice PAYS THE PENALTY for the crime.


When you take a good look at it, christians are very clever. They devised a figure like Christ, for their own good. That allowed them not to carry the burden of their own sins, but just give them to Christ. Christ must be doing a loooooooooonng time paying all the penalties.......
Consistent desire and intent are the key to change

RandomName

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This cannot be stressed enough. Christians recognize the JUDGEMENT that comes for all man's crimes and instead of taking the sentance themselves they lay it at the feet of Jesus. Hell is a coming reality for all that refuse the free gift of forgiveness. IT IS NOT HARD TO BE FORGIVEN!!!



So your saying that I can &^%$ up anybody I want and if I truly feel sorry for it, I can blame it on your Christ and get away with it? Damn! IM TEMPTED TO CONVERT NOW!
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Your a poor exuse for a preacher and you talk from your butt, I have nothing more to say to you, and may you create your own hell from your foolishness.

To everyone else, Adios :-D

Allanon

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So your saying that I can &^%$ up anybody I want and if I truly feel sorry for it, I can blame it on your Christ and get away with it? Damn! IM TEMPTED TO CONVERT NOW!


Jesus is very clear that the first step is accepting His Blood for forgiveness. Than it is a matter of allowing the Holy Spirit to keep you on the strait and narrow. When you are Born Again you dont WANT to kill someone or sin against Him. That is how you can tell if a person has the Holy Spirit in his life. If they respect God and His Law.
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Your a poor exuse for a preacher and you talk from your butt, I have nothing more to say to you, and may you create your own hell from your foolishness.

To everyone else, Adios :-D

What I am saying on these boards is the basic "milk" steps of the Biblical Doctrine. I am sure that most Christians would agree with whatis being said as it is not something I just got up one day and "made up".

eeb

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What I am saying on these boards is the basic "milk" steps of the Biblical Doctrine. I am sure that most Christians would agree with whatis being said as it is not something I just got up one day and "made up".


That's exactly what is one big point. You are spouting phrases that are based on a doctrine, you're citing things from a book.

People are not looking for that on these forums; what makes it interesting are the personal experiences. People don't come to this forum to be converted.

Consistent desire and intent are the key to change

DjM

One whose Spiritual eyes and ears are not open cannot claim to possess understanding of a Spiritual book, simply put. [:o)]Insert

Isn't it a curiosity that those who constantly mention "Satan," have never heard of Ahriman.  What a curiosity?

One would be well-served to concentrate on positive thoughts and not be pre-occupied with one whose job is to place obstructions in their way.  These obstructions only make us stronger.  The more I die, the better I live. [;)]

It is wise to understand the Hierarchies and learn to work with them.  In esoteric Christianity, they are: Angels, Archangels, Principalities, Powers, Mights, Dominions, Thrones, Cherubim, and Seraphim.  The human race follows on below. [8D]Insert

Many ignorant religions teach that there are no beings between the human being and God.  This lazy mode of thinking will never promote a real understanding of the world; it will never give one a real picture of world evolution.  This is why humanity has lost its understanding of the world; and materialistic ideas will time and time again be able to out-argue that part of religion that rests soley on sentiments and dim feelings.  The Spiritual scientific world view, by giving people a new opportunity to hear something about these beings, is opening up an understanding of the world again.  A criterion is being established to set against this denial of a higher world.  The people who are resisting the recognition of this world today are preparing the soil for the most insipid and devastating materialism.  The materialists themselves are actually themselves the victims; the real instigators of the process are the ones who are complaisant enough not to want to know about what exists between human beings and God. [}:)]Insert

Ignorance is the enemy- not individuals.  So let us balance the ignorance... [^]Insert


LA FORET MAUVE

this post is getting more and more sterile and annoying...isn't it time to lock it ? Please people, there is more post in those inproductive discussions than in the interesting subject for us all:
Astral projecting !

Robert Bruce

G'day Folks!

Wherever this topic is going, I think its healthy. Whoever you are and whatever you believe in, in Western society you will eventually come across born agains, baptists, christian fundamentalists of all types. So, here is an opportunity for everyone to test out their wit and mettle in this arena. So debating here has merit for everyone.

On a personal note, I would like to see the christian fundamentalists posting here go head to head with a person with a Phd level in religious studies. They would 'blow' them out of the water, I kid you not.

I have made a few comments here, and thrown some bait, but none has been taken.  I say again, there is 'no' historical proof to support what is in the bible. The only thing that supports the bible is the bible itself. This is fact, provable, etc. Anyone want to take the challenge?????  

My religious schollar friends tell me that christians 'hate' this mention, re its true and cannot be debated. Fact.

I also love the way that christian fundamentalists only take what they like from the bible, and ignore the rest.


Take care, Robert.

Robert Bruce
www.astraldynamics.com

Mustardseed

Dear RB I guess I could take up that challenge  and explain at least my viewpoint. Firstly I appreciate your comments, I think it is a good point that people should debate their opinions and will gladly do so. Something Christians very rarely allow, out of fear that "week ones can be led astray". I have no degrees in religion but know the Bible well and have a fair amount of life experience as well as experience with Christians at large and folks from other faiths.

About the proof of the Bible, lets just agree that there is very little evidence ,of the Historical Jesus and even until recently there was hardly any findings supporting the existance of David the King who was thought to have written the Psalms. The books are from what I understand often written by other people that the one whos name they bear . The Historical findings are at best confusing and at worst .....confusing too I guess. I never bothered reading a lot about it but I will take your word for it as a gentleman, so.. all in all we Christians may be in trouble trying to prove that the Bible is historically correct......however we Christians BELIEVE it is. That is the whole point , we believe. In greek the word used is "pisteu" meaning, to drink in. So we "drink in" the Bible.
The reason for this is that in our understanding the Bible is not a collection of histories and allegories but it is "the living word of God". Mostly becourse we PROVE it in our own lives everyday as a standard by wich we messure our lives. Allthough changed and maybe even altered or wrongly selected by the different popes and what have you, The SPIRIT of GOD has found its way into those pages anyway. It is like the life of Christ,(and the Bible) is alive through his spirit and has guided the hands of those who changed and altered and selected and for us it is empowered by the Spirit of God. The reading of it gives us spiritual health faith and love, and its words holds the secret to every Christians self understanding and expression.

Now the problem comes when people qoute it out of context. The warnings given to the Jews in the old testemant are not transferrable automaticly to people of today allthough the principles may be. There are things in the new testament that I do not adhere to teachings of Paul FX that others hold dear that I feel are his words and not Gods, but the principles and motive may be. It is very hard to explain .I think that many discard it without understanding or trying it, thinking it to be a crutch for people who are scared of "reality". We believe (and many of us come from very strong disbelief too) that if a person really from their heart asks for Jesus to show them the truth they will be shown. That he is alive in the Spirit world the astral world or whatever we call it and communicates through his word, elluminating passages daily to lead and guide individually , sort of a code manual.
On another note we have our zealots like Allanon young and very full of energy but sadly quite unbending and harsh and unloving, and I believe that he is in error and "living by the law". He takes certain passages and applies them as law, and unlovingly whips people with them. He believes himself to be the instrument of god wrecking his own little havoc and everytime people protest this mistreatment he runs to the scriptures and picks the ones that support his actions, indiscriminately qouting from this person and that the new and old testament etc. It seems that most religions have these zealots who use the religion they adhere to as a way to obtail power. I Mostly that is true about Christians Muslims Jews and Hidus but even the Buddhists have a tratition of selfrighteousness, I lived for many years in Nepal and know the tibethean Buddhists well . I recall some fanatic buddhists even set themselves on fire to protest a cause. It seems that is the human aspect , when people feel they obtain Righteousness through some faith they adhere to. The Bible specifically explains however that we are not under any law and that people who LOVE and who are guided by LOVE know God (to what extend it does not say). (I include the ref 1 john 4.) There are many of us who have very deep spiritual experiences not unlike your own, who are not so sure how it all works but who is asking God for wisdom about it . I had OBE experiences since childhood and do not believe them to be of the Devil. I researched the Bible and on the contrary find I can prove the opposite that they seem to be mentioned in the Bible in many places. I have found the Bible and my faith in Jesus to be a big help in fighting Negs and it has given me hope faith and a lot of love and I have had a good life adhering to it. Maybe this is partly becourse I do not go to Church and try to minimise the time I spend with very dogmatic folks like dear Allanon, or even some from this forum . My life is lived in the bright sunshine with respect and love(though I do get ticked off sometimes too)Maybe I got a bit off the subject about Proving the Historical facts but it seems to be a general consensus that there was a guy a special guy back then by that name, and I think he lives on in the Spirit world and that he is the Son of God, but weather you believe it to be so or not.....that is up to you.
Kindly Mustardseed
PS sorry about the editing I keep reading it after it is posted and finding spelling errors
Words.....there was a time when I believed in words!

Traveler

Mustardseed,
Excellent, you said it better than I could. I've been passing this thread by lately but after reading your comments I wanted to acknowledge a like opinion. I've recently concluded a 2 year study of the bible and context is very important (2 years was not nearly enough time). Just because certain words or phrases are in the bible does not necessarily mean they apply to a given point or arguement, you have to understand the context in which they were used.

You touched on the old/new testement thing, I wanted to expand a little. Though many principals apply, old testement = old thinking/old ways, new testament = new thinking/new ways. Many things in the new testement are rooted in the old. Allanon would rather condem according to the law. While that was the teaching of the old testement, Jesus brought teaching through love in the new. What Allanon fails to realize is that when Christ died, the ways and jewish law of the old died with him sybolized by the curtains of the tabernacle being torn. In the new testement Jesus interprets the ten commandments given in the old testement and tells us how we're to live. Maybe, Allanon, you should study more, just a suggestion.

I'm no scholar and you'll never hear me quoting scripture. Two reasons, satan can quote scripture and it annoys people, so its a waste.
"For the good of the fire in your soul"

Nerezza

Dang, I had a whole essay written. Then I hit the back button on my mouse.

I will say that there is historical evidence of certain people and places(places which no longer exist), but as for hard evidence of events, then no, there is none that I know of.

One could look towards the writings of historians of the time but they are from 20-150 years after the crucifixian.

Allanon

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G'day Folks!

Wherever this topic is going, I think its healthy. Whoever you are and whatever you believe in, in Western society you will eventually come across born agains, baptists, christian fundamentalists of all types. So, here is an opportunity for everyone to test out their wit and mettle in this arena. So debating here has merit for everyone.

On a personal note, I would like to see the christian fundamentalists posting here go head to head with a person with a Phd level in religious studies. They would 'blow' them out of the water, I kid you not.

I have made a few comments here, and thrown some bait, but none has been taken. I say again, there is 'no' historical proof to support what is in the bible. The only thing that supports the bible is the bible itself. This is fact, provable, etc. Anyone want to take the challenge?????

My religious schollar friends tell me that christians 'hate' this mention, re its true and cannot be debated. Fact.

I also love the way that christian fundamentalists only take what they like from the bible, and ignore the rest.


Take care, Robert.




Robert,

You have a true lack of the Way, the Truth, and the Light. Not to mention you have no clue what True knowledge is. This life is a test. You place all your faith in the senses. What you can see, taste, hear, smell. You put your Salvation into the hands of a lucid dream that is not the True reality of things. This world is the Devil's playground and your faith in what man put in history books is a fallacy and a shame. You decieve those that are just breaking from the illusion and give them another dream in its wake. Your idealogies and New Age propaganda is nothing more than taking a blender of Panthiesm, ancient mystical pagainism, demon worship, eastern meditation and putting it on high speed. Your book is nothing more than the works of your dreams.

The Holy Bible is the Mind of God.

You play with the Kundalini serpent and expect it not to be the Devil? You tell people that there sins are forgiven without the Blood and everything is ok. Ye shall shurly not die. The first lie of the serpent and it is all to evident on this board. When you are Born Again you see things through the eyes of Christ. If you are not than you are still in the illusion of the senses. You will believe the scientists, the mystics, the demons, the world when they say that Christ is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Keep your trust in what you can percieve through your senses. Chase your dreams and experiences rather than the Truth. There are things in your past that you do not know how to pay for. All the wishful thinking and flying into the frayed, purple astral will not save your soul.

As for your PHD men send them in. They have been indoctrinated by the Serpent and follow the idols of fame and greed. They will say anything to keep thier "titles" secure and the Truth from the mind of the seeker. They have taken the Keys of Knowledge and locked them up in order to keep thier positions.

Stick to your Matrix but you dont have too. Stick to your prison if that is what you really want.

Jesus Christ is the Only Way and The Holy Bible is the Perfect Standard and proclamation of His Will.

Love your Brother as yourself but DO NOT LOVE THE SIN AND REJECTION OF THE TRUTH THAT IS KILLING US.