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Tom

It never crossed my mind that a world government would be anything but for the people. With business any the internet moving being so international now, it only seemed logical to me that a world government and a world currency would develop from both business and the internet. The idea of a world government with all the power implied in that who would turn against the people is a different matter. Everything I know about world governments comes from watching Star Trek.



cainam_nazier

Read the book "1984".

Or think of this.  How often does the "happy ending" actually happen in the real world?


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Tom

Actually, I did read 1984 more than once. I prefer "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. Both have disasters, but "Atlas Shrugged" has a happy ending.



WalkerInTheWoods

Interesting topic. Let me start out with the smaller ones first. Looking at Star Trek, though I have not seen many of the original series. In a few I have seen they seem to have a belief in something as they make references to a god and express a belief in such. In Next Generation they seem to usually avoid the subject, for humans anyway. Most of the other races seem to be rather religious to some extent. Something that I do find odd though is that a highly developed civilation would give little thought to any kind of spiritual development or afterlife, especially with all their knowledge of metaphysics. But I guess it is just a tv show. I think it does bring up one question, What would happen if aliens visited Earth openly and peacefully? Would we all throw away our differences and unite in peace for the betterment of mankind? It is a nice thought.

1984 is a really good book. I read it in high school and it really opened my eyes to things. I do not know if things would ever be so open about how it is run, but it is scary that something like it could occur. I do not know how possible it is that a government could monitor every single person. There just seems to be too many people right now. But if something should happen to reduce the population by a lot then who knows. Does this book have a happy ending? ***Warning Spoiler For The Book*** This is something that I have discussed and surprisingly someone suggested that it does. Looking at it as a rights issue it is rather bleak, but from a personal stand point is can. The guy was always in a conflict between what was clearly happening and his moral, desire for freedom side. This caused unhappiness and a feeling of being left out of the group. In the end he was happy because he no longer had the conflict, he finally fit in. Though that is not something that is very positive to us, being crushed and beaten into submission. Interesting view I thought. I have never read Atlas Shrugged, but with a happy ending I think it would be less realistic. 1984 seems very possible and realistic. He was just one man. When one man goes against a large government who is going to win? ***End of Spoiling***

One World Government seems more and more possible every day. But at the same time it does not. The world is more united now that it ever has been. There is a lot of peace between much of the world, though the violence is what makes the news. At the same time there is much division over certain areas, still the same old crap, Islam, Christians and Jews. Though it is not really the average people in these groups, but the extremists. Still there are many nations that seem to embrace religion and the idea that different is not good. How would such nations unite into one nation? This also brings up an interesting area that I do not think was mentioned in the original post. What about religion? If there was OWG what would its stand on religion be? If it came into being gradually it would most likely have to accept all. But if it came into being with violence, it seems it would rule with force and thus enforcing whatever it wished, if any. But people with strong beliefs do not readily give them up. So maybe that is part of the reason for alien invaders as well. For the average, unquestioning religious person I think they do not think there could be other inteligent life and a God, for humans are his greatest creation right? The aliens would throw a wrench into their beliefs making them very confused, then a group steps forward with "all the answers".

I do like Tom's view of this OWG. It is something I have thought about. How it would be really nice if we all were united and living in peace. If we all worked for the betterment of man and overlooked our differences. Not looking to be ruled by a few, but giving man his freedom to develop and think for himself. But knowing humans I do not think this is possible. People clear wish to be ruled, just look at our history. Even in the old testament the Jews could have lived in freedom but they wanted a human king to rule them. It seems like that is what the US wants too as people keep wanting new laws to govern how we live, what we can and cannot do, what we can watch. People in general are lazy and would rather be told what to do. I do not know if this will ever change. If it does not then a OWG seems very possible. But governments come and go, just like everything else.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

starider

Conspiracy theories have always been sort  of a hobby of mine and always useful EXERCISES in THOUGHT,as well as entertaining,lol.........however,The "NEW WORLD ORDER" is beyond a "cospiracy-theory"  it EXISTS and is actively engaged in pursuing the goals  you speak about ,but it's TRUE-IDENTITY is shrouded in dis-information and mystery that is the so-called "SHADOW GOVERNMENT".....   useful websites to discover information related to the NEW WORLD ORDER   are :

http://skolnicksreport.com/     and  http://copvcia.com/  and        http://rense.com/

You will NEVER discover anything usefull from the MAINSTREAM media,which is slowly being overtaken and controlled by said"NEW WORLD ORDER"  see also any information concerning the following organizations :

The Bilderberg Group, Consel on  Foreign Relations(CFR),Tri-lateral Commission,Carlyle Group, and "PROJECT HAMMER': the PARALLEL  ECONOMY(http://nexus.com), Hughes Medical Institute ......  the list goes on......................    lol

as Thomas Paine once said  ""the most formidable weapon against error of any kind is REASON"......

..."It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave,so keep on thinking free"...

Tisha

Actually, it could go either way:

1.  totalitarianism

2.  rule of law, by the people, for the people

It all depends on US.   There are Elites out there who think that the world's resources (including the people) are theirs for the plundering, but there are more of us than there are of them!

The ploy of the Elites is to either 1) keep us frantically running in circles distracted, or 2) keep us bloated and content and distracted, all so that they might increase their power while we are not watching.   Otherwise, we would revolt and there would be another French Revolution.

SO.  Are we going to sit here with our mouths full of McDonald's Big Macs and let other people define reality for us?  For instance,

a.  Are you going to let the mainstream media tell you what's real, or are you going to seek alternative forms of getting information on the world around you?

b.  Are you going to let your local political processes run you over, or are you going to get involved, and shape them?  Do you vote?

c.  Will you fight for civil rights?  Freedom of the press?  Freedom on the internet?  Free access to information (libraries, etc.?).  Or would you just lie there on the sofa watching reruns while the ELITE take your freedoms away from you, so you can be their slaves?

d.  If you see something you do not like, do you MAKE SOME NOISE about it? Or do you just whine?

e.  Do you pay attention to world politics, world hunger, global justice, or do you only care about your own paycheck and lifestyle?

f.  Do you vote with your pocketbook?

We all get the government we deserve.  Think about that!


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"
Tisha

PeacefulWarrior

We shall not cease from our exploration, and at the end of all our exploring, we shall arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
T.S. Elliot
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fides quaerens intellectum

cainam_nazier

You all bring up some good points!

However the I think that the reality of it is that the Elites and Extreamist have all the power.  That is what makes them the way they are.  The onlyother problem being is that these people often don't operate inside the listed rules, even in thier own countries.

The reality of life is that everyone has thier own view of what would be perfect.  This causes them to put certain laws or rules into effect because they believe that it would be for the betterment of all when in actuallity it only makes thier life better.  This will continue untill one group steps in and says that's enough, These are the rules, like it or leave.


David Rogalski
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James S

Both hard line Christians and Conspiracy Theorists alike will try their best to convince you that a World Government will form and be run by either some secret society of the elite rich, or the Antichrist. Well, the Antichrist is running just a little late since he has been supposedly coming for nearly a couple of hundred years now, and a secret society? Better ask Mulder & Scully about that one.

As long as there are corporations and individuals making squillions from the rest of the population, the laws will always go to the highest bidders. This is where Gene Rodenberry's vision in Star Trek is so appealing to many - in the 23rd-24th Centuries the human race no longer needs or uses money. What a wonderful idea!

As for religion, I think the Chinese government has proved that you cannot stifle people's spiritual beliefs, no matter how hard you try.

James S
(Fate amenable to change)

WalkerInTheWoods

quote:
Originally posted by Tisha:

The ploy of the Elites is to either 1) keep us frantically running in circles distracted, or 2) keep us bloated and content and distracted, all so that they might increase their power while we are not watching.   Otherwise, we would revolt and there would be another French Revolution.

SO.  Are we going to sit here with our mouths full of McDonald's Big Macs and let other people define reality for us?  For instance,



Tisha, that is how it is now for the majority of the US, which I am sure you know. The general population eats their Big Macs while sitting in front of the tv letting the mainstream media tell them how to think. The media usually portrays those that stand up for their beliefs as crazy freaks to be looked down up, such as "those foolish tree huggers that want to stop all business and industry just to save some rare owl no one has heard of". If anyone actually stops and thinks, or even listens to the news lately, they will see that these people are actually pretty smart, seeing how almost all the water around all the cities in the US are too polluted to fish or swim in. No one is really willing to stand up and say "Hey we need to do something" because (1) they are afraid of being labled as being foolish and (2) they feel powerless because they know that others will not take them seriously.

So I agree, if there is a currupt surpressive One World Government then it will be our own faults. The power lies with the majority, but the problem is getting the majority to agree and to take action. It would be so simple if the population really does not want the government, just stop. If everyone stopped going to work, stopped doing anything and just sat around and blocked the roads then what could the government do? The power has always been with the people, it just depends on what the people do with it.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

WalkerInTheWoods

quote:
Originally posted by James S:

As long as there are corporations and individuals making squillions from the rest of the population, the laws will always go to the highest bidders. This is where Gene Rodenberry's vision in Star Trek is so appealing to many - in the 23rd-24th Centuries the human race no longer needs or uses money. What a wonderful idea!




I agree, a world without money sounds so wonderful. I think it would be a great world. Just think about it. We really do not need money. It only ensures those with lots of it will remain in power. If money were not an issue our lives could be so much happier. We would not have to take a job that we did not like just to make ends me, instead we could presue a career in a field we actually find interesting and enjoyable. There would be no hunger, little illness, and no homeless. The US can grow enough food to feed these countries that have none due to famine, etc. There would be no pollution since we would no longer be tempted to take the cheaper way of doing things with cars, industry, etc. The list can go on and on but I do not have the time. Just use your percious brain and think of how wonderful the world could be.



Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

jilola

quote:
If money were not an issue our lives could be so much happier. We would not have to take a job that we did not like just to make ends me, instead we could presue a career in a field we actually find interesting and enjoyable.

I don't agree with that. Someone would still end up having to do all the boring and menial jobs. The competition would then be getting the nice and interesting jobs and avoiding the crappy ones instead of gathering money and wealth.
But provided humanity could actually learn to work for the common unselfish good a society without a separate intrument of exchange could be a possible way to go.

2cents

jouni

WalkerInTheWoods

The thing is everyone of us is different. So what you find boring and menial others do not. I know some people that really enjoy jobs that I find boring and menial. You have to realize that if money no longer existed then our view on things would change. It is hard to look from that view in our state right now, but in trying I think it would make things better. One thing that would have to change is our materialism. In order for this to ever happen people would have to change their view of things, which would probably take a long time unless something drastic happens.
Also about the boring and menial jobs, we have technology that is replacing those jobs all the time, so I do not think this would be that big of a deal.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

cainam_nazier

Until we work out things like garbage removal, food services (like fast food), rent-a-cops, and a handfull of other misc. oh so exciting jobs compensation for such work will be required.  Fact of life.  


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jilola

Fallnangel: this is true. But there are jobs in every societal context that no-one wants to do. I was referring to these. What is uninterresting for me may be great for th enext guy.

Cainam: Ok first of all why do I always spell you andle CaimanNazier?
Anyway, like I said above there's always something so crappy that no'one around wants to do without compensation. But of course the compesation can be something else besides money.

2cents

jouni

MJ-12


WalkerInTheWoods

I totally agree that this moneyless utopia would most likely not happen any time soon, really i doubt it will ever happen but I do believe it could work. The only way it would really work is if humans could evolve more spiritually to work for the betterment of man, such as in Star Trek. As for the unexciting jobs issue, I still do not see a big problem, but yet I do agree with you to an extent. You see, you happen to be forgetting that no offense to anyone but there are those in this world who are mentally challenged, all at varying degrees. Not everyone would want to be, could be, or should be a rocket scientist, politician, sports or movie star, etc. On top of this, and I guess it was not made clear before, but society as a hole would have to reach a certain level of spiritual growth before this could take place, transcending materialism.

Garbage collectors, fast food, rent-a-cops, etc. would need some kind of compensation? Why is that? These jobs you mention are on the lower end of the pay scale, yet people do the jobs. Why should that change? Granted you and I may not want to do it, but some will be suited for it. And again in this society people would look beyond materialism and find happiness in that they are working for the community not for a new car, a summer house, or to support another mistress.

I do not really know how such a society would work. In our current mind frames and values yes there would have to be big government to regulate such things, which would then seem to make this more like communisim, or like a One World Government. For if you are ruler of the world, do you really need any money. Which is the need for spiritual development. If humans as a whole develop and evolve spiritually then (to finally answer one of the original questions) I believe that a One World Government could be a very good thing, bringing peace and unitity to all mankind. On the other hand, a OWG in our current spiritual and social stature would probably not be very good as there are so many currupt leaders already that nothing would change and we as a whole would be pushed down with the curruption.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

cainam_nazier

Another strong post from fallenangle77.

My view point being one of experiance with a couple of these jobs.  I have done the whole security guard bit.  About 3 years worth.  And at the time it was one of the few jobs available for me.  I was just out of highschool and $6 an hour looked good.  However had I been in a situation where I did not require money at that time I would never have taken the job.  And I would not have taken the job either had there been no form of compensation.  In that field of work people come and go like the weather.  Guards of any good caliber never stay in the job for very long because they soon find more suitable work elsewhere.

I suppose the only other way around this kind of thing would be the assigning of certain tasks and using things like schooling to compensate people for thier time.  IE, You are going to say a university and instead of needing to pay your way they say well you will work "here" doing "this", "x" amount of days while learning the skills to put you in a better or perhaps more wanted job.  None compliance would result in not being allowed further education.

jilola,
As far as my handle.  Check here, http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=848
Also what is not listed there, it is a referance to the 2 different side of my personallity.  The warrior and the scholar. Cainam being the intellect, primarily using the motto "Work smarter not harder.", and Nazier the fighter, righting the wrongs, protecting the meek, and generallly doing the things that need to be done when no one else wants the task.

David Rogalski
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Jon Icarus

Good People,

Money is not the problem. The pursuit of money for moneys sake is the problem. Narsisism is the problem. Greed is the problem. The only solution to this problem, is the continuing expansion and evolution of the human conciousness. After all, the introduction of money in our society was a major development and improvement at the time. There is no salvation in regressing to a more primitive state. The only way is up.

BTW: Many Americans seems to subscribe to some form of conspiracy theory. They seem to believe that their goverment, or some other mysterious governing force, is out to 'get' them in some manner. My belief on this matter, is that the current state of affairs clearly indicate that the iq level of the governing parties is not yet up to such a massive undertaking.



-- Jon Icarus

WalkerInTheWoods

cainam_nazier
That sounds like a good way to do things. We all start out with little knowledge and experience, so when we start working we could start in these lower less desirable jobs, and if we do not like them we can go to school, get more experience and skills, and move into something we would enjoy. I guess that is much how it works now, only without the problem of money to pay for school people would have more mobility to get to a place they would like to be.

Jon Icarus
I agree with some of your points. Yes money is not the problem it is the people and how they use it. But I do not see a society without money as being backwards or primative. As pointed out, though fictional Star Trek humans do not use money. Would you consider their society primative? What is wrong with giving and receiving services and goods for free? Instead of working and getting "better jobs" so you can buy more things, work for your and mankind's betterment.  You would no longer need to worry about things, shelter, health care, food, clothes, etc becaue it would all be free. No one would go without. Now look out our society or rather look at poor third world nations. So much sickness, poverty, hunger. Which society would be more primative? But as you have pointed out, it is about people. These people suffer because of the greed of others. If mankind evolved to be more caring and less selfish then these things could disappear. Also why would money not go as well? No need to work for money just so you can buy stuff, if everyone takes care of getting the things we need and then making sure everyone has them. Then we can all join in unity under one government making sure everyone on the planet is cared for, has their needs meet, and can grow to be a better person.

Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.

jilola

Cainam: Yep. I remember reading the post now. My handle is too uninteresting so I didn't participate in th ethread.

Everybody else: The reason why a universal moneyless care-for-thy-neighbour kind of society isn't going to work is not because of money. It' snot because there aren't enough resources. It's not because the idea is somehow inherently flawed.
It's because us, the humans, are so far away from being the kind of enlightened individuals that we can't for the life of us comprehend how it could work. And because at the moments greed, and egotism are the governiongntraits the folks who run for officies and are members of the governments are not the people who'll easily relinquish their power.

2cents

jouni

koshka

The old Zen Buddhist saying goes: "Before Enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.  "After Enlightenment: CHOP WOOD, CARRY WATER!"

Much greed and haste and waste comes from the assumption that our lives are short.  As Dr. Gary Schwartz discusses in his book THE AFTERLIFE EXPERIMENTS, the provable reality of life and soul continuity would take much of the panic and destructive hurry from the playing field of resource stewardship and soulful prioritization.  

THE SCREWTAPE LETTERS describes Hell rule as a hierarchical, pyramidal BUREAUCRACY in which each devil is maneuvering to EAT its competition (while avoiding being eaten), until, at last, there is but ONE devil left as a Cosmic Sole.  The real business, then, is SOUL EATING.  There is no compassion or love at all in such a dynamic.


nclkwrk

quote:
Originally posted by cainam_nazier:
Warning this is kinda long as I was playing out some random thoughts.

The One World Government or The New World Order, however you want to put it there is deffinately more talk and worries coming into the light about this sequence of events.

  Many, many people predict this insane form of government coming to power to rule the world with an iron fist.  Many of these same people believe that it will be the U.S. starts this and ends up in control.  Well not so much the U.S. persay but the "Shadow Government" that is sapposedly running the show from back stage even now.  They believe that this government will not be for the good of the people but only for the good of those in power.  But with this change in gov. comes a change in that power.  Those that think they are in control now will be cast down from thier throwns to wollow with the meek.  It is believed as well that this new gov. will be of a militaristic nature and march much to the tune of the Nazi's of WW2.  Those that do not join will be cut down and considered rebels, terrorists, and traitors.  Many believe also that this will be started by a war or plauge that stricks the whole world at once.  Some even think that it will be like the movie "Independance Day" except that the sapposed threat will be from our own kind in disguise.  It is believed that there are two main points for this kind of action.  One would be to cause a unifying force, one that will call for the world to gather and protect itself.  The second being to cut down the number of people on the planet.  Many claim that groups like the Masons and the Illuminaty will be the new leaders and they currently have plans to reduce the population to a more managable number.  It would be easier for them to gain and maintain control untill everything is place, this also would be done to maximize the usage of what rescourses would be let after such a cotastrafy.
    So how would a situation like this impact us normal people?  I guess that all depends on if you are among those that survive.  The wrold as we know it today would become a harsh place to live.   Perhaps it would be better to be one that does not make it.
    I also wonder how this would impact our collective consiouness?  With so much loss of life would it become damaged beyond repair?  Would some thing like this cause the human race to de-evolve mentally?  How much would be lost?  How much would be gained?  Would things eventually become like in StarTrek, a civilized utopia?  How long would that take?

    I also wonder how this fits into the religious side of things.  Is some thing like this akin to the comming of a false god as describe by many religions?  And now that I am thinking of it, Any body ever notice that in StarTrek there is no referance to what religion Humans are?  Some times they mention something but always in the past tence, like they no longer believe in anything.  Just a thought.

    On the other side of things many people think that such a case is not as bad as some would have you believe.  They think a unified gov. would be a good thing and that there would be no power struggle to install it.  Again many of them think that the U.S. will be starter of that as well.  This side of the coin says that there is no threat from anyone but ourselves and that we need to unify in order to survive as a species.  They think that all the other nations will eventually see how every thing should be done and will join the U.S. as sister states so to speak.
    I personally think that is an arrogant point of view but still some people believe it.  But what are the possabilities of that happening either.  Me personally I think more of the first case.  Unfortunatly I don't think that we here in the U.S. have our act together at all and if given or even attempted to "go for the gold" there would much resistance.  Most of the other nations of the world don't like us very much as a country and I don't think it would be possible to create a New World Order with out a lot of blood shed.

    So what do you all think?  Are we headed for a World Gov?  Do you believe this to be good or bad?  How will effect us spiritually?  Is this the next step in our overall evolution?

David Rogalski
cainam_nazier@hotmail.com
I am he who walks in the light but is masked by the shadows.
http://www.prepaidliving.com/vip/David127385






nclkwrk

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With the Daily News coming from the Middle East being a steady drum-beat of war and rumors of wars on the one hand, and false peace talks that keep tugging on our heart strings on the other, I think it would be highly instructive for us to determine exactly what time in world history we are now living.

Turn with me to Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, as we read: "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together ... A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."

So, the answer of the hour is, "What Time Is It?" Of course, everyone wants the time in which they live to be a time of peace and security, as everyone just wants to be left alone, so they can grow up, marry, raise a family, and see grandchildren, just like so many families in our past have done, and this is an understandable feeling.

However, our "feelings" cannot get the way of a proper understanding of Biblical principle. The Bible teachings that not every age, every generation, or every era is like another. Jesus wept over Jerusalem just before He descended into the city to begin His last week of ministry before the cross. He lamented, "For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground [kill you], and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation." [Luke 19:43-44]

Jesus' prophecy of such utter death and destruction did occur just like this when the Romans devastated Israel in AD 70, completely burning and dismantling her Temple, and crucifying so many Jews they denuded the natural landscape of trees. You see, the time period in which those Jews of Jesus' day was not just like the many that had preceded it.

Likewise, the people living in the time of Martin Luther certainly lived in an era which was unlike anything the world had ever seen. Suddenly, the Holy Spirit blew upon Luther, opening his spiritual eyes so he could see the paganism and the untruth of Roman Catholicism. For the next 300 years, Europe and Britain were convulsed with attempted revolution, war, and the terrible inquisition as Rome attempted to seize back her lost authority and influence. Before this era was over, 8 million Born Again Protestants had been martyred.

The 20th Century is an era unlike any in world history. This century has seen more wars, rumors of wars, famines, natural disasters, and downright bloodshed than any other in history. For the first time in human history, we experienced world wars. Did you know that, prior to World War I, we had never seen anything like a global war; we had experienced some mightily large regional wars, but never a world war?

Keep this fact in mind, for we shall return to it later in this article. Now that we have established that not every era of history is like another, let us ask the question: in this era in which we are living -- is it a time of love or a time of hate, of rending or of sewing, of peace or of war? The Bible tells us quite clearly.

Turn with me to Joel 3:1 -- "For behold, in those days and at that time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem ..." Stop right there for a moment -- think of modern history -- we know exactly when God restored Israel back to her land, do we not? He restored the fortunes of Israel on May 14, 1948. Therefore, you can write this note in your Bible margins next to this verse: "Fulfilled May 14, 1948".

Now, let us continue with this incredible prophecy: "I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehosaphat, and there will I deal with and execute judgment upon them for their treatment of My people, and of My heritage Israel." Therefore, we should expect to see God's judgment repeatedly falling upon the enemies of Israel immediately following her rebirth as a nation. And we see exactly that! Since one of God's most common type of judgment is war, we are not surprised to see war break out within hours of Israel's announcement of statehood on May 14, 1948. Israel's Arab neighbors immediately attacked from all sides; even though Israel was terribly outgunned and outmanned, God gave her the type of military victory which we see again and again in the Old Testament. This first war reminded me of the war in which Gideon was given the victory over 132,000 enemy army, even though he had only 300 men! God gave Gideon the victory even though he was outnumbered 440 to 1. Israel's 1948 victory over the combined Arab armies should have sent the message to an unbelieving world that God was back in the business of protecting Israel in the same manner in which He protected her in the Old Testament.

Since then, wars were fought in 1956, 1967, 1973, and 1982. The outnumbered Israelites won each of those wars, but each time permanent peace eluded them, as their Arab enemies became ever more implacable and hateful.

Let us return to Joel 3:7b, as God warns the enemies of the Jew: "... I will return your deed of retaliation upon your own head." The Palestinians should carefully bear this warning in mind, even as they are attacking, killing, and mutilating scores of Jews in an effort to annihilate them man, woman, and child. In fact, God is addressing the Arab directly here, as verses 3-6 of this chapter clearly indicate.

Now, God turns His attention to the whole world during these End Times, after Israel has come back to her land. In verse 9, we read: "Proclaim this among the nations: Prepare War! Stir up the mighty men! Let all the men of war draw near, let them come up. Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears; let the weak say, 'I am strong, a warrior'! " [Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]

Notice that this prophecy is an exact reversal of the prophecy relating to the end of all war, as Jesus begins His Millennial Reign. In Isaiah 2:4, we see that Messiah will put an end to war. "... they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

But, in the era immediately after Israel is restored back to her land, we see the prophecy of war, of every nation coming systematically into the Valley of Jehoshaphat [generic term for Middle East] for God's judgment of war.

"Let the nations bestir themselves and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat for there will I sit to judge all the nations round about. Put in the sickle, for the vintage harvest is ripe; come down and tread the grapes for the winepress is full; the vats overflow, for the wickedness of the peoples is great. Multitudes, multitudes, in the valley of decision! For the Day of the Lord is near in the Valley of Decision!"

Then, in Zechariah 12, we see God foretelling a very special plan for His city, Jerusalem. Beginning in verse 1, we see God foretell an oracle, or judgment for Israel, as He begins to prepare her for the return of Jesus Christ. In verse 2, God says: "Behold, I am about to make Jerusalem a cup or bowl of reeling to all the peoples round about, and in the siege against Jerusalem, there will also be a siege against Judah [Israel]. And in that day, I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all peoples: all who lift it or burden themselves with it shall be sorely wounded. And all the nations of the earth shall come and gather against it."

Finally, in verse 9, God says: "... I will make it my aim to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."

Thus, anyone who fights against Jerusalem is really fighting against the God of Israel, of the Holy Bible, against Jesus Christ Himself! But, God will allow matters to seemingly get out of hand against Israel, so that, when He stretches forth His hand to deliver Israel, He will get the glory. Thus it is that we see, in Daniel 12;1, that things get so bad, Michael the Archangel, and Protector of Israel, has to "stand up" in Heaven and go forth to fight for Israel.

Unless you have been living on another planet in these days, you know that all-out war seems to be breaking out between Israel and the Palestinians, with the rest of the Arab world expressing willingness to come to the aid of the Palestinians. Could this be the spark for the kind of global judgment of which God speaks in Joel 3? Yes, it is, and we know this because of Obadiah 15-18. Turn your Bibles there.

The first 14 verses of this one-chapter book have already been fulfilled; but, in verse 15, God leaps all the way to the very End of the Age. "For the Day of the Lord is near upon all the nations." With this reference to the Day of the Lord, we see that this prophecy is yet to be fulfilled, and when it is fulfilled, it will be done so at the End of the Age. Conversely, when we see the stage being uniquely prepared for its fulfillment, we can know that this is one more sign that the world is indeed, in the End of all things.

God then pronounces 100% annihilation of a people from Edom whom God calls the House of Esau. In 1993, I emailed the Israeli Embassy to ask them who the House of Esau was, and if they had modern-day descendents. Two days later, I received an email back from a Rabbi, telling me that the modern-day descendents of the House of Esau were the Palestinians, led by Arafat. However, their home was in Edom, and more Palestinians live there than within Israel.

Suddenly, the terrible accuracy of today's Daily News hit me right between the eyes! I could see the stage being set for an all-out war between the Palestinians of Yassir Arafat and Israel, a war that will result in the complete annihilation of the Palestinians. Finally, God revealed in verse 18 that this war will erupt out of Israel and will burn the House of Esau to "stubble", so that they would be destroyed as if they had never existed.

This is the scenario being played out in your Daily News, every single day! However, this war will only be a spark that is designed to explode across the globe, eventually becoming known as World War 3, and out of the smoke, dust, and disaster of this war, Antichrist will come, with great lying signs and wonders.

Let us turn now to the plans of the occult, to see how their plans fulfill Bible prophecy exactly. Now let us return to one of the greatest occultists in history, Masonic leader, Albert Pike. As do most occultists, Albert Pike had supernatural spirit guides, who dispensed "Divine Wisdom" as to how to achieve the New World Order. A "spirit guide" is a "being" who meets someone who has given themselves over to the practice of the occult; however, please understand that many people who are practitioners of the New Age Religion do not view this as a bad thing. In fact, they would argue vociferously that they are filled with happiness and joy by interacting with their "spirit guides", not realizing that they have been temporarily deceived by Satan who, along with his demons, can appear as an Angel of Light in order to deceive ("And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness ..." 2 Corinthians 11:14-15).

Albert Pike received a demonic vision, described below. On January 22, 1870, Pike and one of his international co-conspirators, Guiseppe Mazzini, published the Plan which would establish the New World Order. This Plan was kept very secret, kept only within Freemasonry circles since the time of its inception, known only to fellow occult Illuminist conspirators. (This information is taken from a book from a former Luciferian Illuminist, Doc Marquis. His book is "Secrets of the Illuminati" and reveals much formerly hidden detail known only to Illuminists).

The secret Pike plan to control the world foresaw the need for three world wars.

The First World War was designed to enable the Czarist Government in Russia to be finally and completely overthrown. The new Russian government was foreseen to be atheistic and militaristic. Further, Pike specified that this new Russian Government was to be Communistic.

History records that this First World War did, indeed, occur just as listed, above. The Western powers in Europe, in conjunction with the United States, financed Lenin's expedition into Russia, they financed his government consistently, and we have financed Russian Communism at least once per decade since then.

The Second World War was foreseen to originate between Great Britain and Germany. However, one of the planned results of this war was to strengthen the new Communist Russian government, so that it could weaken and destroy other governments and religions.

History again records that the Second World War did, indeed, accomplish this objective. The war started when Germany invaded Poland, causing Great Britain to declare war on Germany. Very soon, the troika (3's) of powers were set up to wage this war. The Black Magic occultists allied themselves when Germany linked with Italy and Japan; the White Magic occultists allied themselves together as Great Britain linked with the United States and Russia. Do not be deceived. This war was fought between two (2) New World Order forces, the "evil" alliance of the Axis Powers or the "good" alliance of the Allied Powers; the war was between the Black Magic forces against the White Magic forces.

Certainly, the Pike vision of the Second World War building Russian Communism into a super power was fulfilled to a startling degree. Historians have always been mystified as to how Churchill and Roosevelt could have given away all of Eastern Europe to the Soviets, when the preponderance of power was clearly against the Soviets. Clearly, when Roosevelt and Churchill ceded all of Eastern Europe to Russia, the Communist Government of Russia, now known as the U.S.S.R. {Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) completed its transition to a super power, exactly as Pike's vision had foretold. And, let us not forget that the Second World War had given Russia capabilities it had not possessed before the War. Not only did we build up the Russian military to a frightful degree, but we had also built entire factories East of Moscow that gave Russia an instant manufacturing base. Even though Russia had paid dearly in human lives during the War, they came out of the conflict a superpower. Thanks to Roosevelt, Russia now had a kingdom to go along with its new military and industrial base.

Now, you know that Freemason President Roosevelt gave this territory to Russia simply and only because he was being true to Pike's vision of 1870!! You will never read this true history in any of your books!!

The Third World War was foreseen to be between Judaism and Islam. This demonic prediction is incredible in many ways, beginning with the understanding that this prophecy of a third world war occurred in 1870, a time when Israel did not exist as a nation, and when no one except Fundamentalist, Bible-believing Christians believed it would ever exist again.

ISRAEL WILL NEVER AGAIN BE MILITARILY DEFEATED!

God promises Israel that, once she returns to her ancient land, which He gave to Abraham, that she will never be militarily defeated again. Listen:

"And I will bring back the exiles of My people Israel ... and they shall no more be torn up out of their land which I gave them, says the Lord God." [Amos 9:14-15]

"Egypt shall be a desolation and Edom [House of Esau] shall be a desolate wilderness for their violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land." [Joel 3:19] Please remember this verse the next time you hear of Arab terrorists blowing up innocent Jews. The Palestinians have perpetrated the worst kind of violence and shedding of innocent blood. They will be well-deserving of the annihilating judgment promised in Obadiah by the Lord.

Then, God continued: "But Judah shall remain and be inhabited forever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation ... for the Lord dwells in Zion." [Joel 3:20]

Remember during all this Arab talk of hating the Zionists and wanting them dead, the Lord your God is the biggest Zionist in the world, and He has promised utter, devastating physical judgment for all people who threaten Israel or Mount Zion, which is the Temple Mount.

Watch the events in Israel very carefully, because the final chapter is being written there. The demonic 'guiding spirits' of Freemasonry, of the leaders of the New World Order Plan, are planning a final, definitive Third World War, which will begin between Israel and her Arab neighbors and spread to the entire world. Literally, out of the smoke and destruction of this Third World War, Antichrist will come striding!

Thus, when you hear news that peace is nearly at hand, you know not to believe it. When you hear that a cease-fire has been proclaimed, you know that it will not last! No Christian should allow their heart to be vexed as to whether or not peace will break out in the Middle East, or that war will be averted. We know from Scripture that the Time of this Age is, unfortunately, war and not peace, hatred spilling over into all-out global war, not love among men.

In fact, during the past 2,500 years of world history, mankind has known either unremitting war or slavery. A history teacher once described history as a "record of man's wars with the few years of peace in between". This description is very accurate. Since the heart of man is inherently evil [Jeremiah 17:9], we know that disagreements and wars will constantly be the norm, and not the exception. We in America since World War II, and especially since President Reagan, have known so much peace at home, no wars involving Americans abroad, and unprecedented material prosperity, that we cannot conceive that this all might be coming to an end really fast.

Now, do not get me wrong; I am not, by nature, a pessimistic person. I have a 4-year-old adopted son, and 4 other children ages 30 to 24. And, I have a beautiful, red-haired granddaughter one year old. The life God has given me is sweet.

However, God has called us to be realists, and not so idealistic we cannot see what is happening around us. Jesus told us to be "wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." [Matthew 10:16]. Jesus further told us we would know the End of the Age when we look out upon the world and see the signs the Bible gives by which we shall know the Antichrist is close. Listen to His words:

"... when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." [Matthew 24:33-34]

Today, the signs of the End of the Age are everywhere. Today, for the first time in world history, we see that the nations of the world have been economically reorganized into exactly 10 super nations, with NAFTA as Nation #1 and Western Europe as Nation #2. This reality kicks the prophecy in Daniel 7:8, giving us the only sequence of events by which Antichrist would arise. Listen:

"I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things."

The sequence is this: 1). Daniel sees the world reorganizing into only 10 super nations; this occurred from 1992-1996. 2) Daniel sees Antichrist arising up among the 10 horns, obviously one of them, the same kind of person they are. Or, to put it another way, each of the 10 kings will be just like Antichrist. Therefore, we can know that, since 1996, the next event on God's prophetic calendar is the appearance of Antichrist. 3). The Antichrist destroys, or causes to be destroyed, three of the original 10 super nations.

We truly stand at the precipice of the greatest event of history since the time Jesus ascended back into Heaven nearly 2,000 years ago. Since the "birth" of Antichrist is foretold in Matthew 24, let us go quickly there for more enlightenment. In this chapter, Jesus says in verse 8, that the signs of the End of the Age were like "birth pangs" by which a woman gives birth. However, what is the baby to be born by these birth pangs of wars, rumors of wars, famine, and earthquakes? There are actually two babies prophesied to be born in Matthew 24:

In verse 15, we suddenly see Jesus talking about the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple as Daniel foretold in 9:27; but, wait a minute, the Temple was destroyed in AD 70, along with the nation, Israel. Clearly, if an abomination is going to have to be committed, then the Temple has to be rebuilt, and the nation of Israel has to be reborn. Therefore, when Israel was reborn on May 14, 1948, the first baby being born came into existence.

Further, the Antichrist is the one whom Daniel foretells that will commit the Abomination of Desolation. Therefore, Antichrist is the second baby to be born in Matthew 24. This is the event laying straight ahead of us now, being played out in your Daily News. The same birth pangs as those accompanying the birth of Israel will accompany the birth of Antichrist -- Wars, Rumors of Wars, Nation rising up against Nation and Kingdom against Kingdom, Famines and Earthquakes in many places throughout the world.

These type of birth pangs are what we are seeing today, and which will get so very much stronger so as to produce Antichrist. And while the Church will be Raptured before the Antichrist confirms the Covenant with Israel's leaders, we are likely to go through the rest of the birth pangs of Matthew 24. We will be spared the similar judgments found in the Book of Revelation, but will have to go through these terrible birth pangs of Matthew 24.

Are you spiritually ready? Is your family? Are you adequately protecting your loved ones? This is the reason for this ministry, to enable you to first understand the peril facing you, and then help you develop strategies to warn and protect your loved ones. Once you have been thoroughly trained, you can also use your knowledge as a means to open the door of discussion with an unsaved person. I have been able to use it many times, and have seen people come to Jesus Christ as a result. These perilous times are also a time when we can reach many souls for Jesus Christ, making an eternal difference.

If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, but have been very lukewarm in your spiritual walk with Him, you need to immediately ask Him for forgiveness and for renewal. He will instantly forgive you, and fill your heart with the joy of the Holy Spirit. Then, you need to begin a daily walk of prayer and personal Bible Study.

If you have never accepted Jesus Christ as Savior, but have come to realize His reality and the approaching End of the Age, and want to accept His FREE Gift of Eternal Life, you can also do so now, in the privacy of your home. Once you accept Him as Savior, you are spiritually Born Again, and are as assured of Heaven as if you were already there. Then, you can rest assured that the Kingdom of Antichrist will not touch you spiritually.

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