Breath Pump/Breathing to Projection/Separation

[Greytraveller]

Basically from everything that I have experienced, read and heard about projection there is NO WAY that taking deep breaths will force the astral/ethereal body out of the physical body. Any physical action during a projection attempt is Highly Likely to abort/end that attempt. [V]
So taking repeated deep breaths is totally Counter-Productive to the OBE induction attempt. Even Indian yogis (and others) who can deliberately project while still awake practice breathing Before the projection, Not During the Projection. [^]

[sweet_celestial_sounds]

In passing I read a post where someone would take deep breaths and it would kind of pump their astral body out. Frank mentions this in a thread also- the Vibrations thread.

Please 'mystery man' speak. [] Frank, if you would elaborate more. And anyone else, please share. This is very interesting to me, and...

Breaks down some limiting beliefs for me on the what can be done and not interrupt the state, and at what point are we really separating, as that could be us breathing nonphysically if we wait to the proper depth of state, as Frank so openly shared in the Vibrations post. []

Take care!

[Enlightenment]

I know this thread is OLD but I thought I'd reply Whenever my breathing has become to erratic at the vibrations stage just before I feel I'm about to exit it's always ended the OBE because my cheast starts going up and down to much hence moving my physical body. That or I start to think about my breathing to much which brings my awareness back into my physical, again stopping me from leaving my body.

Just my 2p worth.