An entity to do your housework?

kakkarot · November 20, 2003, 13:39:36

unethical, whether possible or not. to enslave is bad.

creating, whether possible or not, is not neccessarily unethical.

i am of the opinion that the more powerful metaphysicists would be more able to either capture or create a servant spirit, but i've got no proof to back me up (hence why it's opinion and not fact [|)])

~kakkarot

Anonymous · November 20, 2003, 13:45:06

Well if you have a service or goods to offer in return, then it's just business, assuming the agreement is mutual. But what would a spirit want from a living entity, aside from energy? Protection from harmful, more powerful spirits, perhaps?

Tisha · November 20, 2003, 16:48:06

There are old european legends of fairies (brownies, leprechauns, etc) who did things around the house in exchange for gifts. However, they were not exactly reliable and could turn on you on a whim! [

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WalkerInTheWoods · November 20, 2003, 19:32:46

I saw an episode of Unsolved Mysteries (I think that was the show) where this family had a ghost that "haunted" their house, but this ghost was helpful. He did not do dishes but he would close the windows if they were open and it started raining. He would do helpful things like that every now and then. Who knows if it is true, but it is a nice thought. I have heard of other such ocurrences but it is all just rumor.

For your situation I have two suggestions, either get off your lazy butt and do your own house cleaning (hey we all have to sometime [

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Nagual · November 21, 2003, 08:34:41

Castaneda talked about sorcerers having allies; but it seemed more of a "symbiotic" relation...

moka · November 21, 2003, 09:05:31

Those are demons so I wouldn't suggest summoning them.

alot of people on other forums summon demons for practicley anything,they do a ritual to summon a demon that will always have a specific job like turning on the tv or something.

moontingle · November 21, 2003, 09:42:41

Why would they necessarily have to be demons? Lots of spirit helpers -- well, I understand you can call on them to help you with all sort of specific tasks. If you are working only in the light, then your helpers will be of the light. But, of course, you should not overuse and disrespect. Only in times of great need. Maybe that's why the housework thing would not be a good enough reason to call an entity in. Are you saying for something mundane like that I would only attract lower entities. BTW, I do my own housework, but I hate it. I have trouble doing repetitive, boring things over and over. I am an "orange" person and I want excitement in my life. That's why I'm on this forum, right? I was just wondering about the housework thing so I could free up more time for having fun!!! I'm not serious about wanting an entity to do it, though.

Moontingle

seth817 · November 22, 2003, 12:45:01

Hey one time I came accross a web site where you can order a ghost. You would just pay whatever amount of money it was. I think they had a credit card setup like any online store. You give them your address and they would send a ghost to your house.

Yerzak06 · November 22, 2003, 12:50:43

That seems like an easy way to make some money.

-Patrick

moontingle · November 22, 2003, 20:12:25

No way!! That takes mail order shopping to a new level. I don't know what level, but ... I wonder if you get to specify what kind of ghost you want. What about couples who want kids? Ghost kids, why not? Easy to care for... Kidding aside, those ghosts should be sent to the light.

In Spirit, Moon

seth817 · November 22, 2003, 20:25:04

I think they where manufactured ghosts, you know like a living thought form or something and they where supposed to do stuff for you like house work. It sort of scared me a little for some reason I mean I sort of wanted to order one just to see what whould happen but there was something dark and wrong about it. I tried to find the site on google but couldn't find it, maybe they where one of the companys that went bust with the .com crash.

Ybom · November 25, 2003, 11:12:06

I really like this thread, I must say. It hits on some of the big things that I've been thinking about as future projects for myself to work on depending how advanced I could get. What about using bilocation and psychokinesis to do your average mundane job and the cleaning both at the same time while you do whatever you want? I'd harm a fly for that ability!

moontingle · November 26, 2003, 14:30:34

Talking about getting rid of the mundane stuff in our lives so we have more time to explore the energy dynamics of the universe, remember the Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield. The Manuscript says, as we evolve, our material supports will be taken care of by others in an automated system run like a utility, and they will give us money to provide them with spiritual insight and to help them to evolve. As we let go of our fear of scarcity, and as we all engage in a spiritual economy -- with everyone giving and receiving constantly, in the understanding that whenever we give, if we are connected -- we create a void that the universe moves to fill up again. "We will always have more coming in than we could possibly give away" the book says.
At this time, we'll also understand that natural areas of the earth have to be nurtured and protected for the sources of incredible power that they are, Redfield goes on ...

Now, doesn't that sound excellent?! We don't need entities, We need to evolve to a higher state of grace in living, so keep practicing with energy and you'll soon be paid to teach others stuff while they bring you corn and blankets and stuff for your physical needs.

BTW, How far do you think we are from this utopia? Do we have to crash and burn first in 2012?

Curious,
Moontingle

Nagual · November 27, 2003, 05:46:10

I think we are far from it... Not saying that most people don't want this, but more that the few but powerful "elite" (full of $$$) ruling the world are certainly against it... At least that's my opinion.

They don't want spiritualy evolved people; they want little "robots" that barely think and just do what they have been trained/pushed to do. Watch TV, have sex, eat, work... but don't think or question anything!!!

What? pecimist? me? [|)]

moontingle · November 27, 2003, 12:21:55

So, Nagual, is what you're talking about the archetypical battle: the powerful have's ($) vs. poor (but spiritual) have not's? Sauron vs. Frodo. St. Francis vs. the Bishops. Power!!! Is it the great race, and the powerful are way out in front? Would you say we have to learn in this school of hard knocks (greed & ego) the meek way so then, and only then, can we ascend to a realm that operates on love? Is that the only way to leave the hamster's wheel and experience it. I know we can have heaven on earth here individually, but what about collectively?

~Regards, moon

Nagual · November 28, 2003, 04:19:38

Honestly, I don't know... I am just waiting for 2012! [|)]

seth817 · November 29, 2003, 19:37:54

what is it about 2012?

Nagual · November 30, 2003, 09:26:43

Supposed to be the big thing; being the end of the world, or the demon's invasion, or a massive elevation of consciousness, etc...

xander · November 30, 2003, 11:44:24

quote:
Originally posted by Nagual

Supposed to be the big thing; being the end of the world, or the demon's invasion, or a massive elevation of consciousness, etc...

Just as I laughed at the xians during the millineum shift I shall laugh at the new agers in 2012.

In other words....I'll beleive it when I see it.[}:)]

Xander

Nay · November 30, 2003, 12:11:45

Mind if I join in with ya on the nice chuckle, Xander?..[

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Nay [

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Nagual · December 01, 2003, 01:50:08

Besides if it will or will not happen... Would you like it to happen?
Personaly, I would... I am so fed up and sadned by the current state of society. I really want a huge change. But I agree that a demon invasion would be a little annoying... [

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xander · December 01, 2003, 03:24:26

quote:
Originally posted by Nagual

Besides if it will or will not happen... Would you like it to happen?
Personaly, I would... I am so fed up and sadned by the current state of society. I really want a huge change. But I agree that a demon invasion would be a little annoying... []

every moment is dying/birthing in the same breath. I want the moments to quickly die and give birth in order to speed up the spiritual evolution of myself and others. Though I doubt this incarnation will live long enough to see the death/birth of a signifigant shift.

Then again there are many groups attempting to bring about an apocalypse, primarily governmental and corporate as well as religious groups (some xians, some muslims).

Xander

moontingle · November 20, 2003, 11:25:06

Seriously, I heard of a woman who had an entity to do her housecleaning. I don't know her contact info to see if it's true, but I wonder if anyone else has heard of this and would it be safe to have such a thing in your home? Or are you playing around with fire to enslave an entity? Is it ethical? Sounds like a great idea ... entities to brew your beer, mow your lawn etc. Can anyone shed light on this?

In the one light,
Moontingle

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