The void of the altered state?

[kiauma]

Keep practicing.  []

[Serenity]

This is because your body isn't completely relaxed...try again, keep practising, and soon you will be able to AP with ease. I know you can do it []

[Nick]

It can take a while to get to that mind-awake/body-asleep state, if thats what you mean. I'm not sure what people mean when they say trance in this context. However the mind-awake/body-asleep state was written about by Robert Monroe, as taking a bit of time to nurture (for most of us).  

Some people recommend a binaural cd at first. It is kind of like as assist that helps get you to the state I mentioned. Then, after a little bit, you can do without if you wish. Some examples of binaural cds can be found in prior threads here. They are Gateway Hemi-Sync, Awakened Minds, Brain Sync, and also downoload presets such as those used with the BrainWave Generator.


Very best,
Nick

[quant]

Thanks all for the responses.  I did try using some tones and such from the brain wave generator program about a year ago, and that was the only time i felt my body get to the vibration point and i could hear a popping noise in my head..

I figured i would just meditate in silence as i don't want to get used to having the music around me to meditate and start to feel i can't meditate without the music.

[quant]

I admit to myself, I don't meditate half as much as I would like to, and because of this I am sure it gives me troubles, and I have trouble switching into a trance.
As I relax, after a while I will feel a switch in my mind, it's as though i can be aware of everything (including my body and noises around me), then I will enter a void where I sort of lose track of everything, almost like the initial stages of sleep.
I just can't help it, each time I try and stay in this state my eyes will move or something will happen and I am brought out of it straight away and a kind of mini shock is sent through my body.
I have never consciously projected before (apart from in dreams where I felt I have).  Does anyone have any advice on how to get over this?

Thanks!