Marijuana - Once in a lifetime ...

distant bell · March 14, 2002, 09:53:38

I have used the five leafed plant on three ocasions, and al three
times I just got wery paranoid and feelt sick. The reason I tried
again after the first unsucsesfull atempt, was that I kind of wanted
to give it a fair chans. And It was told to me that a bad trip might be due to bad quality of the pot. Well, all in al I cannot recomend it. I hade a friend who smoked regularly, and he never was consentrated during his highs. So doing energy work might be pretty hard if you have smoked and feel all happy and flappy...

Rob · March 14, 2002, 20:59:27

Anyone know anything about the energy body/psychic affects of ketamine???

Mobius · March 14, 2002, 22:37:27

Hey Inguma,
Ive heard & read a little on Ketamine, very interesting OBE inducer,
although I,ve never tried it or heard of anyone who has, I,d like
to see a few thousand Guinea pigs try it before I gave it a go.
I,ve read a bit into L.S.D, angels trumpets, Salvia, Blue water lily,
Payote, but I read one about what the Shamans used in the Peruvian
Amazon,by swiss anthropologist Jeremy Narby " The Cosmic Serpent, DNA
& the origins of Knowledge ".They used one in particular for trances,
Ayahuasca, a combination of 2 plants with specific amounts of each.
In a couple of years I hope to work in the area of Genetics or DNA,
so this stuff is very interesting for me.How without the aid of
books or records did they make this mixture out of the 80,000 species
of plants in the Amazon?
The 1st plant contains a hormone naturally secreted in the human
brain, dimethyltryptamine, which doesn,t work if you eat it on its
own, as enzymes in the stomach stop its effects.But the 2nd plant
they used in conjunction with the 1st, conteracted the enzymes
blocking ability.
When asked where they got the knowledge from they said it was "given"
to them by the spirits, through their Shamans.
The Shamans in the Amazon & others around the world shared a
similar insight, that in every creature lived 2 serpents.
This was all before we had electron microscopes & know about DNA.
The shamans insisted that they communicated with the serpents & were
told things that were beneficial to them & provided much
enlightenment from these serpents.
This twin serpent thing has been featuring in our history for a long,
long time now, the symbol of the 2 serpents or snakes is used in
most Hospitals or medical centres as well as the Kundalini symbol.
Many cultures & religions worship the serpent/snake/dragon/Quetzal-
coatl, funny that eh? worshipping these twin serpents that are
really in every living being on this planet as D.N.A.
It opens all sorts of questions like, ARE they intelligent? & can
we comunicate with them? And who,s in charge here?The D.N.A have
so much information & are so complex its just no joke.
You might have heard the old " we only use 20% of our brains " but
you probably dont know that the Genetic code in the human Genome is
made up of only 3% of the D.N.A available.We have worked out 3%!!!
& thats a lot, its what you look like, how you behave, your
physical attributes & future diseases you are succeptable to, just a
few! so what does the other 97% of D.N.A do?
Now for Marijuana, not that I encourage anyone to use it, its your
choice, but people seem to relate DRUGS or bad drugs as they would
like to see it, but never look at the thousands killed every year
from prescription drugs, has there been a recorded death from
Marijuana any where in the world? I dont think so.
Just think about the definition of Anti-biotics, next time you
swallow one down....ANTI ( speaks for itself )
BIOTIC ( life )

I,ve probably bored hell out of you all with my science geek stuff,
but I love the topic anyway.
All the best on your journeys

Mobius

Mobius · March 15, 2002, 17:13:12

Hi everyone, just adding this link to my last post for a bit of illustration & some more theory.

All the best on your journeys
www.crystalinks.com/kundalini.html

Mobius

Winged_Wolf · March 15, 2002, 23:56:47

Actually, we know a LOT more than 3% now. Do a search on the Human Genome Project.
We're making very substantial progress in mapping out the entire human genome, and identifying what each gene does.
There are, however, some genes the purpose of which we might not be able to identify, at least not for quite some time. In all normal pesons, these genes are not active--they're "junk DNA", leftover code from our evolution which is permanently switched off now. Who knows what might be hiding in there?

--Winged Wolf

Mobius · March 16, 2002, 05:58:34

To Winged wolf, yep know about the Human Genome project, but thats
only knowing D.N.A that makes a human body & what certain genes are responsible for what.They know the basic enzymes that make up D.N.A
Adenine,Guanine,cytosine & thymine & how they like to pair, which is
useful for proving someones identity as you can match up the
GATTACA,s? letters for a match, but they dont understand what they do
completely, the info for that 3% was of Dec 2000 so I,d imagine a bit more been uncovered since then.
Its the genetic code in the human genome they have mapped, which the
D.N.A only uses 3% of its total information to do.Still its a full
page of C,T,A,G & U,s in random order an incredible task!

All the best on your journeys

Mobius

Winged_Wolf · March 16, 2002, 12:41:59

Yes, they've been busy little beavers in the past couple of years. You can go to the HGP website to see what they've got so far. The amount of information they've uncovered is staggering, and they can now use tests to determine whether a person is going to develop or is at risk for hundreds of genetic diseases.

--Winged Wolf

puddl · March 02, 2002, 06:25:39

I personally do not drink/smoke, but I was wondering ...
A person I know told me that when smoking marijuana his awareness is a LOT greater
and thus easier to practice NEW excercises and get into TRANCE.

Now what I want to know is, whether anyone here agrees...
Would it be 'alright' if I were to get 'stoned' ONCE ? And try to get into trance through that way. I've had troubles with trance, and I Was thinking perhaps this might 'free' myself a little , or loosen me up ..

Just a though, but want some more oppinions of you all on whether
this would be intelligent or foolish.

thank you.

GypsyWanderer · January 02, 2005, 21:53:51

lets not forget why cannibis was made illegal in the first place, the federal government of the united states was using cannibis hemp for nearly all their paper and it was remarkably easy to do, then found out that they could make way more money from the more expensive to process and sell other trees, illegalized it, had WWI, people came back afterwards, hey whys this illegal, oh its bad for you, prove it, federal government injects rat with twice its body mass full of thc, rat explodes, test proves marijuana is bad, everyone gasps, enter the age of everyone believes everything they shouldnt

Oversoul · January 04, 2005, 01:46:36

Quote from: GypsyWandererlets not forget why cannabis was made illegal in the first place, the federal government of the united states was using cannabis hemp for nearly all their paper and it was remarkably easy to do, then found out that they could make way more money from the more expensive to process and sell other trees, illegalized it, had WWI, people came back afterwards, hey whys this illegal, oh its bad for you, prove it, federal government injects rat with twice its body mass full of thc, rat explodes, test proves marijuana is bad, everyone gasps, enter the age of everyone believes everything they shouldnt

Why did I find myself laughing at the hilarity of that just to end of shivering at the disturbance...
Actually, I like marijuana. I find i'm much more telepathic when on it and my energy body is more sensitive and sensed as strengthened. The downside is that i don't feel as intelligent when on it. I definitely couldn't do any algebra while on it, then again at times when on it i'm very fast at calculating numbers but mostly just addition and subtraction with any sort of number high or low. Like when i'm tallying in my head how much my change will be when I have the munchies and decide to order at Jack in the Box. As has been said in this thread, there's pro's and con's to it, puddl. Just don't do it too often and you'll be alright. I would definitely recommend at least trying it once. It can be a very cool experience. I remember my first time was the best. I did end up doing it a lot when i was in high school but cooled down a hell of a lot after. Now, i'll maybe do it once a month at most but I still really enjoy it. I think it's better than alcohol and it harms a lot less of your body than sauce too. BUT!, I would not recommend using marijuana and doing energetic development work. I've tried that and the energy just gets WAY too intense. You should sit back and enjoy the experience. Sometimes the eyes are bigger than what you think you could handle. Ask and ye shall receive works a lot with hallucinogens (especially psychedelics) so be careful, especially for your first time. Take it slow and easy. Patience should be the predominant force in spiritual development. *just realized* Have you tried it yet? It's been a little while since you first mentioned it. Let us know what your experience was if you did.

Allseeingeyes · January 04, 2005, 23:06:32

I smoke marijuana often.
It can be a good spiritual tool..
Just be sure to keep your protection up and
cleanse your energy and charge it for good.
Ive been astrally attacked a few times
while stoned, for me it makes the barrier
between this realm and the astral realm
more malliable, and that can open you up
for attack as well.

Good Luck and Enjoy! Marijuana can
be a wonderful experiance as long as its not
abused.

beavis · January 05, 2005, 05:19:32

Once in a lifetime or once a month are both too infrequent to negatively affect projection ability after its over at all.

You · January 05, 2005, 08:34:10

I don't because it's illegal. If I go to a country where it isn't I may try it once or twice... I don't like anything too sensory altering though...showers and sleep and spinning in circles to make myself dizzy aside.

heter · January 06, 2005, 04:37:37

I smoke marijuana at times. I have never had the time to sit down and attempt meditation with it, but I can tell that if I did it would really easy to concentrate and get into trance. If you are just sitting there stoned, you sort of feel like you are already in a trance state. I have also tried moving my energy around and found it felt diffrent. I have a friend who says projection is very easy to do when stoned. I am going to try to meditate while high tommorrow and I'll let you know how it goes.

As far as marijuana effects, this what I usually experience.

Wavy vision

Heavy sensation like trance or deep relaxation.

Sort of slowed vision, if you turn your head fast it feels like it goes slower than normal.

Everything is much funnier. Colors look amazing, music is wonderful to listen to.
http://www.larrycarlson.com is AWESOME when high. Cartoons are also very intresting.

You lose your logical thinking in a way, you also don't care what other people think of you so much and could care less if you embarrass yourself.

You get a bit paranoid if you are in a risky situation.

Anyway thats what I usually feel when I'm blazed. The effects can last strongly for maybe 2-3 hours and it starts wearing off then depending on how much you smoked. A very small amount of good stuff (cripto crippy crip in Florida, even less of northern lights and other good stuff, hydro etc) smoked in a pipe can get you very high. I'm talking about like 2 little buds smaller then your little toes nail. I would strongly reccommend a pipe instead of joints. Here is how to make a homemade pipe that works

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Dont ban me please

karnautrahl · January 06, 2005, 05:03:55

The illegality of a drug is to me a poor reason not to try it

. Mainly because by accepting the opinion of the government on it you aren't making a real choice but following the party line. Now not trying a drug because it's not an experience you want, you don't like what it's done to anyone you know who's tried it. Or for health reasons and gut instinct-those are some of the best reasons in the world.
I won't try cocaine because I don't want to snort something up my nose, I don't truly understand what it will do to me and it's too pricey.
I won't try heroine because I've seen too many addicts. Their lives ARE ruined.
I've tried cannabis plenty, because only in extreme cases have I seen harm just like with alcohol etc
I've tried speed because again it took abuse on the users part before it caused issues.
The legal thing isn't the reason to not try for me, the health thing is.

Speed scatters chi, cannabis slows it down for me.

heter · January 06, 2005, 05:17:40

Quote from: karnautrahlThe illegality of a drug is to me a poor reason not to try it . Mainly because by accepting the opinion of the government on it you aren't making a real choice but following the party line. Now not trying a drug because it's not an experience you want, you don't like what it's done to anyone you know who's tried it. Or for health reasons and gut instinct-those are some of the best reasons in the world.
I won't try cocaine because I don't want to snort something up my nose, I don't truly understand what it will do to me and it's too pricey.
I won't try heroine because I've seen too many addicts. Their lives ARE ruined.
I've tried cannabis plenty, because only in extreme cases have I seen harm just like with alcohol etc
I've tried speed because again it took abuse on the users part before it caused issues.
The legal thing isn't the reason to not try for me, the health thing is.
Speed scatters chi, cannabis slows it down for me.

I totally agree with you. I would never try heroin, cocaine etc because they are highly addictive and I have seen their affects. On the other hand I have never heard if weed killing anyone or ruining anyones life.

karnautrahl · January 06, 2005, 06:50:10

LOL that's a funny place to put weed taking instructions

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heter · January 07, 2005, 02:34:28

O_O I'm still kind of high so bear with me.

I think I might of smoked a bit to much today. Here are some things I tried.

I tried to meditate a few times, I closed my eyes and immediately it felt like I was falling and I could feel something pulsating really fast. I know it wasn't my heart because it pulsated every quarter second or faster. I had really intense feelings all over my body, very heavy and very strong. I was scared to continue, mostly because i was high and I thought I would die, but also because I had never felt such strong trance related symptoms. Something very interesting that happened was that I either hallucinated or something else happened. I'm not sure if you can hallucinate when you smoke weed, but the first time I had seen little animated cartoon mouth open and close as I heated up food in the microwave that kept shouting "Eat eat eat eat eat". After 5 seconds I realized what was happening and I attempted to regain control of myself for just a bit. I tried visualizing whatever I wanted and noticed that I could control images in my head. Could be that weed improved my clairvoyance? Or was I just hallucinating? Anyway after that I tried storing energy and noticed weed makes energy harder to move.

Allseeingeyes · January 09, 2005, 15:55:12

^ LOL! I wish weed did that kinda stuff for me.

heter · January 11, 2005, 10:48:56

Quote from: Allseeingeyes^ LOL! I wish weed did that kinda stuff for me.

Yeah I smoked crippy or cripto down here in Florida. I have a pretty low tolerance to weed also.

de_tec · January 13, 2005, 17:54:55

Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to organs throughout the body, including the brain.

In the brain, THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement. just some info......
Hec. aka de_tec

pharmakeia · February 05, 2005, 20:22:45

Read "The Natural Mind" by Andrel Weil - he is a well known author. He states that we can learn to mimic vibrational awareness caused by our environment enterour our body and us relating and learning from it. He considers all of nature as a teacher.

Face it. Addiction is a portal negatives use to gain access to precious human soul energy, but the exploration of consiousness thru the known medicines and poisons of mankind is a space of both shamistic and puritine debacle.

pharmakeia

BirdManKalki · February 08, 2005, 11:03:39

My farther was in Thailand making a road during the Vietnam War, he smoked Thai with the villagers for over 12 months, one of his friends was so stoned he jumped headfirst off one of the village huts that were raised above the ground, he died.

There is one reported Cannabis Death overdose reported in Britain, I don't believe it myself.

I heard 2nd hand from the radio about an experiment done with cannabis, a few people drove around a driving coarse they were timed, and then each smoked a joint and drove round again, after smoking the joint their driving was enhanced.

I smoke cannabis, I smoke probably three joints a week at the most, and I share these with my friends. I'm a natural philosopher, I have a natural curiosity for truth, and some of my most important realisations started off as vague thought-forms via the smoking of cannabis, cannabis frees the mind, this is why it is illegal. I also had a very extreme spiritual experience on a 10 or 15 gram Hawaii mushroom trip.

Some Cannabis leaves have seven bladed points on them; there are seven days in the week. Cannabis is green.

Nay · February 08, 2005, 12:07:17

I've overlooked this thread for a few days...and I would like to suggest one thing. Personal information on how, when and if you are high while on the boards, is a keep to yourself topic.

This isn't High-times magazine and we do not promote drugs of any kind on these forums. It seems some are glorifing it and I do not want the younger folks to get any ideas that smoking is the way to go.

Understand? If not, I'm afraid I'll have to lock the thread. And if any of you stoners have a problem with my decision, don't complain on the boards, PM me directly and I will have no problem explaining it a way you will understand.

Thank you kindly,

Nay

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