elemental manipulation

[Tom]

Recently I've been advised that this might be a direction to go in for temperature regulation of the body. It can get uncomfortably hot and uncomfortably cold where I live. This does not matter so much as my tendency to become cold during meditation which goes beyond just needing to wear blankets for the drop in blood pressure and pulse. Things are not as bad as they have been, but a simple cure is still very welcome.

[kakkarot]

advent: maybe you are getting at something. but then, maybe the intensity of the meditation allowed you to use your energy easier and more powerfully than you normally could, thereby allowing you to make the ripples in the pond. try doing a meditation for fire and then making the ripples happen again: if the pond ripples then my theory is right, but if it doesn't ripple your theory holds even more plausibility. and if you meditate of fire, and can't get the pond to ripple, try getting a candle flame to move instead. that should be a very decisive method of figuring out what is happening. hopefully    . or maybe they're both right! hope you get even better.

tom: are the drop in temp, blood pressure, and pulse really dangerous, or are they just kind of annoying? if they don't feel dangerous to your body, try going with them for a while - just letting them happen and finding out what comes from it. if it does feel dangerous, try asking your body for a way to counter-act them. don't know if this will help or not, but hopefully it may.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[Tom]

My drops in temperature are not dangerous, but they are more painful than annoying. They are often not real, either. To the more objective perspective of other people holding up a hand near me (and not even needing contact to complete the observation) I am feverish. The idea of elemental manipulation sounds like a way of balancing my temperature so as to be both subjectively and objectively comfortable.

[goku22]

It makes sense that you appear feverish to others, but feel cold yourself. That's what any old fever feels like. You're like "Damn I'm freezing!" and your actual temp is way high. This is just a guess but maybe your core temp is lowering and flushing your skin with heat, also, with that much heat leaving your body without food to replenish it, you're bound to be cold. I'm just saying that I think it's real.  Ben

[Tom]

A couple of times I came close to being taken to the hospital. It can be of greater concern to other people than to myself. I will work on finding ways to balance my energy and elements. There is a meditation in a book which I bought recently to balance the elements in the body, resulting in greater health and longer life.

[Advent]

i've been thinking about how the elements are used within magic and how they might be used more effectively. for example, if you "charge" yourself with the element could you gain control over it. like water to effect water. wood to effect plant life. i would imagine, of course only in theory, that a practice of elemental meditation could improve ones connection to those elements influence upon the self and how to use it in more life enhancing ways. i tried this with the ocean and damn! it was intense. i meditated as myself the shoreline of the ocean with waves breaking. i sensed the connectedness of the shore to the entire rest of the see and i completely lost myself in euphoria. when i ended i felt invigorated. i went outside and walked down the steps in my backyard leading to the pool. there was no wind blowing and when i gazed into the water, and without any conscious intent, there was a sudden ripple effect in the water right where i was looking. i looked towards a different direction and the ripples followed. i was rather excited with the effect. i know this post doesn't have much structure and i guess i hope for it to expand with whatever ideas arise. does anyone have any ideas? agree/disagree?