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DarkCloud

Since I've started NEW, I've been wondering alot on how it works.
I have a tendency to over think or mediate deeply on certain things,its both my strong point and my weak point.
Anyway,I have been thinking about energy raising and its effects and all that.


I have a little theory on energy raising, but I want to know if its accurate or not. So I need replies to this,OK?

Robert Bruce mentioned in his book that raising energy is a very beneficial action in energy work..as well as day to day life...
I have also read numerous reports on people's experiences/feelings during energy raising. The majority of them say that energy raising as made their lives easy on some extent.
But one question comes to mind about that. Since energy is in constant motion is side of us, whether we are sitting still or moving, some degree of energy is used. still with me?
Well, another well known fact that Chakras, which are the energy absorbers of our body, are always 'open' sort to speak (unless you have blockages, which can be cleared through various practices, but lets stay on track)
They just have different levels of "activation''. Robert Bruce said this himself in one of his post (which, interestingly enough, can be found on this site).

That said, all our chakras are working as we speak, giving us energy, depending on your level that is. In a normal person they just absorb enough energy that is needed, without the benefit of any extra energy. Take note that a human also receives energy as they breathe, eat, sleep, etc. And although the charkas are an integral part of our body, their function is somewhat independent, such as we don't have to constantly focus on them to work, they just do.


However, I person that engages in spiritual practices, whether it be Tai Chi, Chi Kung or NEW, work to strengthen their Charkas centers (primary and secondary) , thus giving them they needed amount of energy plus some energy to spare.


Now, since our Chakra's our never "closed", they are in constant operation. Meaning that they take in energy by themselves, even when are aren't directing them to (they have to, seeing how that what they are for)
So this leaves me to believe that are energy is constantly being "raised" sort to speak, but its only the needed amount to survive, and even if a person has naturally strong charkas, most people like that waste their extra energy in necessary ways.
Thus, this is nothing more than a smaller level of "perpetual energy raising" mentioned in Robert's book.

Through spiritual/energy practice, they chakras are conditioned to absorb/store much more energy, giving the person much more stamina, calmness of mind, etc. the only difference is that now their energy is flowing on a much faster rate, and the energy raised because of that is much greater, although we are still constantly taking in energy , via our Charkas.
So my point is, we are constantly raising our energy, though in speed/strength/circulation is greatly increased for people who are developed.

I've noticed the term "energy flow" pop up in numerous places in the Energy Way's book. This only adds to my theory as Robert clearly spoke of it as an important factor.


Of course, a theory is just a theory, and although I still debating on this myself, I believe I may be on to something.



Now, I want to ask you all one last thing.(well, two, lol)

1) How often do all you out there raise energy? Everyday, Weekly, Monthly? Do you notice anything change as time goes by?
2) How many of you have actually triggered "Perpetual energy raising" that Robert was referring to in his book? How long did it take to achieve?


I still think that PER has many different levels, being weak or strong, I just want you guys to share your experiences.

The reason I started this topic is, I was wondering one day while reading NEW energy ways that if you ever do trigger PER raising and for some reason would like to stop raising energy, could you just will it to stop, then when your ready, start it up again?
Pretty soon after that I began dwelling on it and came up with the theory mentioned above, which put the previous question on hold? Why ask such a thing if its already happening?

I hope I got my words out clear enough, and this was easy to understand. And sorry for it being so long.

Any feedback, positive or negative (not to negative!! :shock: ) will be appreciated.
"To a dreamer, there is no such thing as impossible, there are only possibilities."

Stookie

Quote1) How often do all you out there raise energy? Everyday, Weekly, Monthly? Do you notice anything change as time goes by?

Everyday. I find it fairly pointless to do it less then that, unless it's temporary energy for a projection, which you might not be able to raise without regular practice. I'm sure the changes are different for everyone, but they definitely occur.

Quote2) How many of you have actually triggered "Perpetual energy raising" that Robert was referring to in his book? How long did it take to achieve?
Is that where your energy raising moves on it's own, without focusing awareness? If I do NEW for 15 or 20 minutes, it tends to move on it's own for a little while longer, but needs a little pushing to keep it going.

What you're saying seems correct: Chakras are naturally active. Energy raising increases the activity and stores the energy.

So what's the theory again?

DarkCloud

My theory is, that your energy is always being raised to some extent.

"Perpetual Energy Raising" Is explained in Chapter 13 of NEW Energy ways. The name of the chapter is "Energy and the immune system''.

Robert states that energy raised can become habitual, much like breathing can. He said it could take quite some time before it becomes an automatic and continual action, but well worth the effort.

But like I said, I believe that energy is constantly being ''raised" inside of us, this practice only increasing the amount of energy raised though. So I guess you can say that normally our energy raises very slowly, but developing the energy body and chakras can increase energy flow dramatically which the rate/amount of energy raised is far greater.

Hence, I'm just saying that we've already triggered this in some way, we just have to strengthen it.

Stookie, thanks for your reply.
I would like others to post on this as well, seeing how it can open a new outlook on energy raising.

Thanks
"To a dreamer, there is no such thing as impossible, there are only possibilities."

CFTraveler

Hi, Dark Cloud.  I just wanted to comment on a point you raised:  We are constantly raising energy, without being aware.  I believe all our energy practices make us more aware of what's already there, and so we can use it more efficiently.  Take breathing: we all do it automatically, it keeps us alive, but when we become more aware of our breath, then we can do more things with it: deep breathing, etc; we can make it work for us in a deliberate fashion.  To me it's the same with energy work:  The more you do it, the more aware you become to what's happening with it, and that awareness leads you to manipulate it to your benefit.
BTW: I do NEW on a daily basis, sometimes twice a day.  After reading your post on the other forum about perpetual energy raising I think I'll try to implement it. Thanks!  :lol:

andonitxo

Quote from: DarkCloud
Since I've started NEW, I've been wondering alot on how it works.

There are heaps of things science is unable to know about, but that doesn't mean they don't work. With this thing on subtle energies it is better to go ahead and to have some faith because when your structure is  prepared the corresponding veils will drop off and the puzzle will be understandable.

Quote from: DarkCloud
I have a tendency to over think or mediate deeply on certain things,its both my strong point and my weak point.

Mercury in Scorpio or in the eighth house? :lol:

Quote from: DarkCloud
But one question comes to mind about that. Since energy is in constant motion is side of us, whether we are sitting still or moving, some degree of energy is used. still with me?
Well, another well known fact that Chakras, which are the energy absorbers of our body, are always 'open' sort to speak (unless you have blockages, which can be cleared through various practices, but lets stay on track)
They just have different levels of "activation''. Robert Bruce said this himself in one of his post (which, interestingly enough, can be found on this site).

In normal conditions your intestines should work correctly, but it's a fact that constipation exists. The mere act of thinking you're on a lower rate will make your energy system to pace down. It's all in your head.

Think of yourself as a solar system where your divine spark is in the center as a sun and around it there're 22 archetypes (energy patterns) orbiting. What equilibrates or messes the system is the sun.

Physically, all those energies project themselves through our chakras, which are a kind of doors. Your chakras will always work at the appropriate rhythm to fulfill your bodies' minimum necessities. But, of course, there's a way to boost them up in order to achieve a greater vibrational rate in your being. It would be as to take a vitamin pill to improve your physical health.

Quote from: DarkCloud
That said, all our chakras are working as we speak, giving us energy, depending on your level that is. In a normal person they just absorb enough energy that is needed, without the benefit of any extra energy. Take note that a human also receives energy as they breathe, eat, sleep, etc. And although the charkas are an integral part of our body, their function is somewhat independent, such as we don't have to constantly focus on them to work, they just do.

And that's a problem, because it leads us to be slaves of the illusion of the earth. Yoga and other kinds of eastern philosophies encourage people to be as conscious as they can of every aspect of their lives. Remember, by the way, that they also state there're different kinds of energies: prana, chi, kundalini, and so on... each one having a certain function.

Quote from: DarkCloud
Now, since our Chakra's our never "closed", they are in constant operation. Meaning that they take in energy by themselves, even when are aren't directing them to (they have to, seeing how that what they are for)
So this leaves me to believe that are energy is constantly being "raised" sort to speak, but its only the needed amount to survive, and even if a person has naturally strong charkas, most people like that waste their extra energy in necessary ways.
Thus, this is nothing more than a smaller level of "perpetual energy raising" mentioned in Robert's book.

Think of this as gymnastics. Your veins also steer blood up your body, but in an athletic person that process is improved because it works out every day which, of course, reinforces the bodily structure. That same thing happen with your energy organs.

Quote from: DarkCloud
1) How often do all you out there raise energy? Everyday, Weekly, Monthly? Do you notice anything change as time goes by?
2) How many of you have actually triggered "Perpetual energy raising" that Robert was referring to in his book? How long did it take to achieve?

1) When I'm on the right mood. As said, if I'm psychologically tired my energy-moving capabilities are lesser. But for sure, I do it several days a week, even if I don't do the whole process (activation, bouncing, orbiting and chakring).

2) I don't agree with that thing. It's not only a matter of exercising your chakras, your core mind must also be regenerated. Even if you keep on a daily routine, you'll have but poor results if your "outer" life is a mess (problems at the office, with your family or couple, drugs,...).

Just keep on it. If something has to occur, as some kind of sudden illumination, it will happen when your quadruple body structure is prepared enough.

And don't worry so much about facts. Even when people thought that Earth was on the center of the Universe everything outside the stratosphere was OK and in it's correct place ;-D

DarkCloud

Indeed there is alot more to energy raising than one thinks. And yes, I agree with you that their are different types of energies, but they all stem from the same source.

I really didn't mean it that we don't have to focus on our chakras, by all means no! You'll be missing out on a grand thing if you do, I was just stating that our chakras work continuously without us even trying to do so, much like you can breathe (like CDtraveler stated) and not have to think too much about doing so. And we are merely becoming "aware" of our already divine nature.


I really don't know what to think about energy - and maybe that's my problem - I think too much. My parents and friends have told me that I over-analyze make things much more difficult than they already are, when they should just be relatively simple. It's a habit I'm continuing to work on.

When I first started energy work I did nothing but base it off experiences my friends have had, and gone with their philosophies/definitions. I already proved ki to myself prior, but nothing on what they claimed(?) to have done(I don't know if they were sincere or not, but hey, I was willing to believe them. Heck, I still believe them to be sincere, although they be mis-interpreted on ki, which is common).

A long time ago I came up with a notion that all one needs is a strong spirit and a strong mind to get good at ki.
My friends told me otherwise.

Now looking back, I see that listening to they every word and eating it up was a grave mistake that wasted so much valuable time could have used to discover the truths for myself.

That's why I usually don't post in forums unless something REALLY is eating at my mind. I also find that others ask the same question I do sometimes, so it saves me trouble.

Now, I'm more independent when it comes to energy work, considering everyone's experiences but finding the truth on my own.


So, here is what I guess I was trying to say: We must become aware of the powers/capabilities we already have inside of us, has CDtraveler stated.


As for that horoscope thing, I haven't checked mine in a while, so I'm not so sure what house I'm in, but I'm an Aries, and they have alot of passion, which probably explains my obsession to understand/gain knowledge (also makes me stubborn  :lol: )
"To a dreamer, there is no such thing as impossible, there are only possibilities."

jaycep

why would u stop? lol

and what is there to theory-ize ... just be aware of the energy in your body as much as possible and keep going until you are super-man

for the most part i only take one note of advice with me... work on 1 of these 5 points (root, naval, heart, crown, brow) until its mastered. so i sit/lay down and think about one of those points until i can 'activate' it in a second any time of the day ---> then i move on to another. the goal being when im done with them all ill be able to have all 5 points going at the same time any moment out of the day.. oh thats heaven

2 down 3 to go nAY meaN

rave_master_naruto

HEy guys, remember that all matter is composed of energy. So if you practice manipulating energy then you should use outside source, not your own because if you use your own energy you will become energy depleted ,as a result, it will speeds up aging....   <Thats what i've read from the net. though i forgot the site.>
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