I just met my Guardian Angel!

Shawn McCaffrey · January 20, 2003, 14:51:34

Do they acctually GUARD you? I mean If they have their own lives and what is there to guard? I never see guardian angles saving people from being killed or falling of cliffs? What exactly are they and do?

Hephaestus · January 20, 2003, 15:56:38

There's always the possibility the person wasnt your guardian angel.

Aerotus · January 20, 2003, 16:05:05

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Originally posted by Hephaestus

There's always the possibility the person wasnt your guardian angel.

I know this. That is why I am going to call for her again next time and see if the same person shows up.

Hephaestus · January 20, 2003, 16:30:51

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Originally posted by Aerotus
I know this. That is why I am going to call for her again next time and see if the same person shows up.

Good plan. [

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Shawn McCaffrey · January 20, 2003, 17:54:49

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Good Plan

It is indeed.

Who has AIM?

Fat_Turkey · January 20, 2003, 18:24:27

I do [

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Anyways it's like me and my Greys(Zetas), there is the possibility the gremlin-like creatures are haunting me, and then there's the possibility that my thoughts of fear created them. And since the image of a Grey(alien) have flocked to my mind whenever I hear strange things, it is quite likely I could have created astral beings that behave like I think the Greys do.

The similarity between that situation and yours is this. You wanted to meet your guardian angel, therefore you called for her and it could have simply transformed into a lucid dream where you created everything that your mind simply wanted to see. You saw a University because you were at your University at the time of the projection. You saw this "second Earth" incredibly vividly because you possibly imagined that the world of these "guardian angels" is beautiful. Maybe the name Elisa and a partially Chinese look is either what is your fantasy girl [

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Or maybe you did meet your guardian angel. Who knows? I've never met mine, and I haven't really gotten any protection from mine if I do have one. Maybe he/she is slacking off...

Patty · January 20, 2003, 18:37:26

Two separate experiences.

In one, I was awake all night praying to meet my guardian angel. Finally fell into a fitful sleep. Woke up the next mroning early and continued begging to meet my guardian angel.

Nothing, nada zip. Kept begging for anything - looked around and noticed two arcs on the wall. I was at a hotel and the arcs were shadows from the morning sun but I couldn't figure out what made them. SO I went to stand between the shadows and the window to try to figure out what those two arcs (I was thinking wings) were from. I looked at the window, couldn't figure it out. So I turned my head to look at the wall behind me, see if I was lined up with the arcs. I saw my reflection on the wall, with an arc sprouting off each shoulder.

Interpret it however you like. My interpretation is still fuzzy on it, something like your angel is as close to you as you are to yourself.

Second experience, same time frame but later --- I had heard that you can know your angel's name. So I started praying to dream my angel's name.

I woke up the next day with a memory of a name - Ashmarrath. No clue why that name. No memory of the interaction, just wonke up knowing that I had learned the name the previous night. A few months later I was in a store and all these angel pins were out - each had a name on it. They all started with "Ash-" which really struck me. None of them were "Ashmarrath."

I asked Ocallah (online spiritualist who sometimes visits Afterlife Knowledge) what the name might mean, and she said "Ash-" means to destroy through fire. She suggested I look up "Marrath" in the dictionary.

Turns out it is the name of a Biblical city, it means Bitterness. So Ashmarrath, I believe, means to end bitterness through fire.

This fits well with my life.

I don't really know the answers to your questions, but my guesses are:

Have you met him or her yet? - Yes, sort of.

Do they live normal lives just like us? -No

Are they evolved beings? -Evolved? Maybe, different? Yes.

What is our connection with them? -

Maybe they care about us?

How can she be looking over me if she is living her own life? -see answer above, they aren't living lives like us.

What did you learn from him/her? - that (s)he is THERE. And the name.

Any thoughts about my experience? -I'm curious what happens next!

Silver Incubus · January 20, 2003, 22:03:43

Hey Aerotus,

I didn't know you posted here as well.[

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Small net I suppose.

weagle · January 21, 2003, 01:24:10

you should of never make assumptions and asked this being who they are (identify themselves)? I remember one time after my grandmom died week later she came to my mom my mom saw a dream of door slamming and woke up arms numb (paralysis) then the same hour she came to me I saw the door slamming instead of waking up I got a tape recorder i could of said I'm listening then I knew intuitively who it was called out grandmom she replied to me, I said how its over there she says its always summer (so the warm thing is true) wanted to ask more questions but I woke up my arms were numb though but knew it was a good spirit and the spirit was grandmom because she went to my mom first and failed then came to me and identified itself to me.

Aerotus · January 21, 2003, 04:59:27

Fat Turkey, I am a regular lucid dreamer and I know when I'm in a lucid dream, because usually I become lucid with a reality check. But this time, everything definitely started off with a conscious astral projection exit where I could see my room. And I have never seen my room in a lucid dream before. Only once before in my first successful OOBE. I have given thought to the possibility that at some point, it could have turned into a lucid dream. But the fact that I saw her lead me out of my room into another dimension, and then she was STILL there leads me to believe it was real.

I remember her name very clearly, it was pronounced "A-Lee-Sa", at first I thought that was spelt Elissa, because I had never heard that name before. I checked it out on the internet under a "Names" site. There is indeed a name spelt Aleesa (Variant: Alysa). It is from Greek meaning princess. The fact that she told me a name which I had never heard of, but is a real name I find interesting. Because it would suggest that I didn't just make it up in my head. She did not look like anybody I have seen before, nor did I have any sexual feelings towards her.

Patty, your experience is intriguing! Especially the meaning of the name which surely can't be coincidence! Very exciting stuff!

Silver Incubus. Hi mate! There aren't that many astral type forums around so its not a surprise to see you here... [

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Weagle, I have to say I did make an assumption that she was my guardian angel. It was a trusting assumption since when I began to feel a bit scared in my dark room, I called for my guardian angel to appear, she saw that I was in distress and immediately showed herself and offered her hand to me. I felt really safe in her presence and took her hand. Next thing I knew, we were in her world... Whether she was my real guardian angel or just a friendly spirit, I will ask her in more detail if I can summon her next time. Now I have her name, this should make it easier to find her again.

Hasn't anybody else met a guide or guardian angel? I thought it was quite common but it seems I have accomplished something quite rare!
Anybody which would prefer to chat about their experiences my MSN is aerotus@hotmail.com. Feel free to contact me...[8D]

LapSiLap · January 21, 2003, 12:11:24

Cool Cool Cool!! I wanna meet my angel toooo [V]

Shawn McCaffrey · January 21, 2003, 14:11:58

It seems that you only interact with them if your desire is sincere enough i mean if your just kinda like eh it would be cool you wont. ya know?

micron · January 21, 2003, 16:54:43

hey!

good deal. dont let anyone make you doubt your experience. the fact that you were totally consciouss says a great deal. Anyway, perhaps this was your spirit guide? Im not too keen on the idea that we have guardian angels because i dont see what their role would be. To stop us from dying before our time? i dunno i am still making my mind up about the subject. But have you considered it just being your guide? Perhaps they are one and im just creating seperate entities [|)]

keep it up!

Aerotus · January 21, 2003, 19:20:38

Guardian angel or Guide. I'm not too sure of the difference. She may well be one of my guides. But its a she and I think calling her my Guardian Angel sounds better in my mind [

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micron · January 21, 2003, 23:32:17

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Originally posted by Aerotus

Guardian angel or Guide. I'm not too sure of the difference. She may well be one of my guides. But its a she and I think calling her my Guardian Angel sounds better in my mind []

hey to each his own right [^] the fact is that you asked for help and you got it, which im sure was very encouraging. hopefully you'll get to meet her again!

Oh and when you said you were in Bath, is that Bath Pennsylvania? or?

Aerotus · January 22, 2003, 04:01:01

The famous town of Bath in UK. (For the Roman Baths)

Chris · January 22, 2003, 12:45:41

Great experience. You are the only one who can really tell who your guide is. You'll just know. You'll feel a familiarity with them etc. It's also more than likely you have more than one guide/guardian. Interestingly, one of my guides who shows up on a regular basis is an Asian female. She's bailed me out of a couple of tight spots before in the Astral when my own fears wouldn't allow me to "save" myself. Just recently she gave me a good chewing out. Because of my upbringing in a certain religion I was always discouraged from going to College. However, even though I am the Director of Technology at a University and have owned several of my own businesses etc, I had up until the other day always felt just a little insecure about not having gone to College to get a degree. Anyway, to get to the point, I was having a dream in which I was feeling insecure and sorry for myself. I was in a college going to classes and couldn't seem to finish my courses... I was feeling very sorry for myself... and BAM! right in the middle of the dream she appears, completely interrupting my feelings of self-pity and says, "Chris! What are you doing? You have work to do! Why are you wasting your time on this stupidity? Where is the Chris we know who doesn't care about man made degrees and diplomas? Where is the Chris who realizes that accomplishing goals that matter is more important? Where is the Chris we know who accomplished this and that and this other thing?

I felt really stupid and ashamed, but at the same time could very intensely feel love and carring from her. It was more like a mother chastising a son she loved instead of someone just lambasting you with insults. Yet, it brought me out of my self-pity very quickly, and when I woke up in the morning I noticed that I felt a whole lot better. My energy was stronger and I was raring to go and get some projects done. Only after that was I able to realize that I had fallen into that depressed self-focus about a week previous and hadn't been feeling well all week. I was unaware of my condition until she snapped me out of it. I'm very appreciative that my guides act as "guardians" in this way.

Regards,

Chris

Shawn McCaffrey · January 22, 2003, 13:17:49

Is there any way that I can meet or even just find out my guides/angels name? I can't project, and praying doesn't seem to help, i cant lucid dream either. But i have a great desire to meet or just know their name to know they are there, even though i do know they are i want some closure (name) any thoughts?

Chris · January 22, 2003, 13:39:12

Well, I've met my guides on more occasions than I can count, and so far, I don't know what any of their names are. What's interesting is that I might be curious at times on this day or that day while I'm awake, in this physical body, but whenever I'm out of body, it just doesn't even come into my mind to ask... it's like it doesn't matter. I think names based on physical sounds are not really important... at least for me. Inside, I know my guides by their energetic signature. It's a way I feel around them, their presence, etc... it is unique. So, personally I don't feel a need to externalize it into a physical sound. However, that doesn't mean it's not important for you... perhaps it is.

In terms of meeting your guides... my personal opinion is that one should not focus so much on meeting one's guides. If you simply focus more on becoming more aware of yourself, of others, and of other states of consciousness, they will make themselves apparent to you at the appropriate time. I've been having OBE's since I was around 14 years old. I didn't meet my guides (consciously at least) until I was about 25. There's another point. Most likely you have already met your guides (in this physical life time), you just don't remember it. Increasing your ability to remember your dreams and OBE experiences will increase the likelihood of remembering an encounter with your guide.

Another interesting thing is that you may have OBE's and just not be able to see your guides. In my first consciously remembered encounter with my main guide, he was invisible. On subsequent OBE experiences I was taught... or more accurately TOLD that I needed to shift my focus in order to see my guides. I believe it again has something to do with our own perception. It's like having our eyes closed and not knowing it.

The following illustraton demonstrates how my experiences were with my guides:

Someone walks up to you and talks to you and you can hear their voice but you can't see them... it's dark all around you. You assume the lights are off. You grope around looking for the switch and you yell at the person to turn the lights on. Then the person says, "hey open your eyes stupid!". You say, "my eyes are open! don't call me stupid!". "I'm telling you your eyes are closed!" he says back to you. You steadfastly declare, "look... I know when my eyes are open and when they are closed... now just turn on the light switch and stop fooling around!". The other person gets fed up with you and walks away.

This general scenario happened to me a couple of times. Then, being the genius I am (haha) I finally got it through my head and the next time my guide told me to open my eyes and change my focus I listened and he literally shimmered into view. He was smiling and quite happy... and I was a little embarassed by my previous behavior.

Peace,

chris

Aerotus · January 22, 2003, 14:21:36

Chris, its great to finally hear from someone who has regular contact with their guides! Do you know anything about their lives or what they do? Do you think they live their own lives in another dimension?
Or could they possibly be another human on Earth?

I got this response from another astral discussion board and it is really intrigueing:

Once back in October of 99 when the earthquake hit Isthambul,Turkey...I was asleep, in my time zone,dreaming o being underground and talking to a boy about 14-15 yrs old. His father was with him and the father had already died. I was there to console the boy and I showed him his palms and showed him his long life ahead, his future wife and his future children,etc. He was scared he wouldnt make it out alive, he was buried underground. I told him he would be found but it would take 3 days. Well, I woke up from that dream, poured myself some coffee, the morning news was coming on and the big story was this earthquake that had destroyed parts of Turkey overnight. (i still hadnt made the connection yet about my dream and the earthquake). They showed a picture of a building that was an apartment building or something with many levels, that had fallen almost straight down in on itself into a hollow cave-in. On a cell phone talking to a firefighter was a 15 yr old boy who had called into the radio station, to relay to the rescuers that he was trapped on the bottom of this crumbled building like 100 feet under ground with his dead father. The firefighter told him "don't worry it will take 3 days to pull you out". I almost spit out my coffee. I did immediatly get on my knees and talk straight to God! I just said ....whatever I had done, be it astral traveled or whatever to help console this boy, I realized the weight of what it meant, the responsibility it involved... you asked above how does a "guardian angel" do their job if they are living their own life. Its because the majority of all lightwork is done while you are asleep....

What do u think about this Chris? Do you have anything to add?

Chris · January 22, 2003, 14:28:53

I'd say the experience you related (while I can neither confirm nor deny if it was true) is something that happens to a lot of people who are regular OBE'ers. At a certain point you start having experiences of helping dead people make their transition or healing or consoling others while they are dreaming. If this experience is true, it is likely the individual met with the boy while the boy was asleep. Upon awakening the boy may not have even remembered the dream but somehow now felt a sense of calm because of the help from the other individual. The more aware you become of your dreams, the more you will notice other guides helping you during your dream cycles. There is truly a lot of work going on during sleep. Just keep practicing your ability to become more aware and focussed and you won't have to ask people like me or that other person about our experiences. You'll be telling us your own.

Warm regards,

chris

Shawn McCaffrey · January 22, 2003, 15:11:31

Chris,
You said you met your guides in the dark and etc... But was this in the physical, RTZ, or astral?

Shawn McCaffrey · January 22, 2003, 15:18:56

Chris,
You said you met your guides in the dark and etc... But was this in the physical, RTZ, or astral?

Chris · January 22, 2003, 15:39:10

I was in the real time zone. When I wrote the example of being in the dark I was only using an analogy of what my experiences were like. In reality I could see all around my room and I could feel my guides hands/body and hear his voice, but I couldn't see him with my astral eyes. This happened on several occasions an he was attempting to get me to see him and I couldn't. Instead of focussing on what I was doing I was trying to get HIM to appear to me... when it was ME all along that needed to change my focus in order to see him. I think that many times our physical indoctrination along with fears and lack of focus make it difficult to see many aspects of the astral, including our guides.

chris

Shawn McCaffrey · January 22, 2003, 15:43:59

So theres still no way i could meet my guide/guides in the physical?

News:

I just met my Guardian Angel!

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