Society awakening?

[Awakened_Mind]

Recently a few songs are coming out into mainstream music that make me wonder whether society is beginning to 'wake-up"

Linkin Park - What I've done
Matchbox 20 - How Far We've Come
Pink - Dear Mr President
John Mayer - Waiting on the World to Change
Immortal Technique has a few as well.

Has anyone got any more?

-AM

[FadeEsdrasX]

Interesting

Welcome to the universe - 30 seconds to mars
R-Evolve- 30 seconds to mars
End Of The Beginning- 30 seconds to mars

I love this band. Thier music makes me feel spiritualy stronger too.

-Andrew

[Stookie]

Dudley Perkins (Declaime) - Let Love Light The Way

...and a whole bunch of other Dudley songs.

[Selski]

This is a good thread.  I'm not sure about the "recent" though.

'All you need is love' by The Beatles surely suits this discussion.  Around 50 years old.
Likewise 'Imagine' by John Lennon. 40-odd years?
And a big contender must be 'Strange Phenomena' by Kate Bush.  30 years ago.

All mainstream, all commercially-accepted.  And yes, I'm showing my age.

To slightly go off on a tangent, I think films (movies for all you Americans) are more accepting these days.  We do still get the usual rubbish out there (voilence, egotistical nonsense), however there are some good 'spiritual/afterlife' films around too.  I particularly like 'What Dreams May Come', 'Dragonfly' and 'Sixth Sense'.  Oh, and 'The Others'.  Damn, all American!!    I normally pride myself on only watching British films... 

Sarah

[FadeEsdrasX]

Could you recommend any films? I love spiritual movies. What Dreams May Come was amazing.

[Selski]

Hi Fade

My fave film is 'Twelve Monkeys'.  'Sixth Sense' is great too.  I'm sure you'd love them both. 

I've just ordered 'Vanilla Sky' as I hear it's about lucid dreaming.

'Dragonfly' is of the genre of 'What Dreams' so that should go on your list too...!

Sarah

[Awakened_Mind]

Smashmouth - Walking on the Sun.
Switchfoot - Meant to Live for so much more
Tupac - Changes

I didn't mean entirely recently, it was just those songs that brought it to my attention I suppose. It was just more well it's in pop culture again so at least the kids are singing along to something other than relationships and how much bling they wear.

I think you can see it in music because music is art. Art requires someone to express themself honestly, that's really the main point. With boundries there can be no creativity.

Good to see some songs for me to look up! Thanks a lot guys!

-AM

[FadeEsdrasX]

I shall check those out ~!
Thanks Sarah 

-Andrew

[Awakened_Mind]

Speaking of movies, the whole stars wars series has subtle hints at religion and society. The matrix as well. I, robot questions the nature of the soul and what it truly means to be alive.

None of these are done in a literal sense, but if you've ever done any type of film analysis before you might stare at whats really behind the story line. "So whats the moral of the story?". I prefer the movies with the most depth personally. Mr Hollands Opus is a good one. Tuesdays with Morrie. Remember the Titans. Contact.

-AM

[kailaurius]

Disney is a pretty good advocate for enlightenment in that the overall theme of Disney would appear to be Imagination.  You can see the message in most if not all their movies, shows, and commercials.  I'm not sure if anyone here has been to Disney World, but imagination appears to be their main theme.  The message is subtle and subliminal in some areas, and strongly apparent in others.  Imagination is mostly apparent at Epcot as they stress using imagination in most of their rides and throughout the park.  The message on imagination at Epcot is that you can do, be, and create anything you want by using your imagination.  Disney World is a good place for exploring and expanding your mind as well as sparking and increasing your imagination; not only for young children but for adults as well.  I believe Disney World can be as educational as it is entertaining.

[Awakened_Mind]

I read somewhere in 'Ren and Stimpy' cartoons they don't follow ordinary fashion of life. In one episode stimpy might die and then be alive in the next. In some cases they are in a trailor and in other in a house. It changes every episode. The idea was to errode cultural conditioning of what's considered to be normal in life.

-AM

[FadeEsdrasX]

Yeah I especially liked Tuesdays with Morrie and the Matrix. After watching the matrix I noticed a couple hints in it. Afterwards I kept watching it and pointing out those subtle hints of religion in it.   Its kind of hard not to now once I started noticing things like that in movies.
The same goes greatly for songs. Sometimes I wonder if i look too deeply in them.

-Andrew

[Awakened_Mind]

I don't think you can ever look too deeply. Don't stop !

-AM

[FadeEsdrasX]

ha-ha Thanks I wont stop 
Oh heres another song
Set this world ablaze -Killsitch Engage
its a heavy song but the lyrics remind me of the awakening

-Andrew

[melody]

Disney is a pretty good advocate for enlightenment in that the overall theme of Disney would appear to be Imagination.  You can see the message in most if not all their movies, shows, and commercials.  I'm not sure if anyone here has been to Disney World, but imagination appears to be their main theme.  The message is subtle and subliminal in some areas, and strongly apparent in others.  Imagination is mostly apparent at Epcot as they stress using imagination in most of their rides and throughout the park.  The message on imagination at Epcot is that you can do, be, and create anything you want by using your imagination.  Disney World is a good place for exploring and expanding your mind as well as sparking and increasing your imagination; not only for young children but for adults as well.  I believe Disney World can be as educational as it is entertaining.

Hello Kailaurius ,

I am sorry to brake the happy talk, but apparently Disney is not above influencing children in a subliminal way. If one has little children, it would be the best to play all the Disney videos in slow motion and listen very carefull to all the background words and sounds. Here is a video about Disney using subliminal messages. The guy is pretty forceful, but he seems to know what he is talking about and it is appalling.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8004529225087428176

[Awakened_Mind]

Living end - wake up

-AM

[Novice]

Sorry Melody...I clicked the link and could only stomach the first 2 minutes before closing the window. Just not my thing. All he did was talk about how devil worship and satanism is mainstream everywhere you look. He didn't give any examples within the 2 minutes that I watched. The video was 8 minutes long. But all I could do was roll my eyes at him.

I didn't find him convincing, I found him a bit scary in his grip on his beliefs and religion and what he sees all around him as threatening that. I just don't 'do' conspiracy theories.



However, as for songs and stuff. I do agree with AM. I've noticed a lot of songs my teenage daughter listens to are much more ... inspirational than the stuff from my generation (barring a minority of songs). But Sarah makes a great point. Maybe it's not that society is awakening now, but that there are songs/movies/stuff available in each generation to help inspire and motivate. It's just an issue of what you gravitate towards.

Good stuff!

[melody]

He does give examples in the video. You can always bring the indicator forward to the exaples.

[Doringo]

Essentially, anything with a star in it's logo is Satanic?

God help the USA, then. It has 50 stars on it's flag!

[Awakened_Mind]

The term 'satanic' or anything associated with hell or the devil has evloved in modern culture. What it really means now is that which separates man or causes man to act against his own. I can't see members of the media or government entering the devils chamber and discussing the next order of business to take over the world.

Does what is created forever expand, or is it kept at a certain quantified amount by some anti-creator? Evil is a human conception. There is no devil or hell.

-AM

[Doringo]

I can't see members of the media or government entering the devils chamber and discussing the next order of business to take over the world.

Agreed. It's a bit (gross understatement) far fetched to think that most people who are 'in power' are satanists, luciferians, etc etc.

[malganis]

Here are some disney's pictures with subliminal messages.

http://bljestavilo.blog.hr/2007/04/1622450355/hipnoza-seksom.html

Some of the greatest cartoons in the world started out in very perverse ways

http://www.techamok.com/?pid=3379

some more subliminal pictures

http://misakvecernji.blog.hr/

2nd and 3rd post.

One explanation why marketers use sex in subliminal messages is because they want to connect you enjoyable feelings with their product. But that doesn't explain why its used in cartoons or on money.

[Doringo]

They could just be joking around while they were drawing it. It is pretty funny

[CFTraveler]

How many symbols exist that are not satanic?  Let's see- a triangle means a pyramid, and somehow satanic, a 'rosicrucian cross' is for some reason satanic, a five-pointed star according to them is satanic, a six-pointed star is also occult therefore satanic.... An eye is satanic, a nose can look like a triangle so it must be satanic, a lip can be red so it can be sexual therefore satanic, the only symbol I can think of is the square, but if you turn it into a rectangle then it can be a 'door', and therefore satanic.  Let's see, what's left?  So basically a company that wishes to use a logo can only use a square (or is is satanic if you turn it on it's side and looks like a diamond?)
How about symbols of nature? Is nature satanic?  Well, we know goats or cats are no-nos, trees (oops, possibly kabbalistic, hmm... well, we know that stars and moons are no-nos, and the sun may be taken as egyptian, therefore satanic in his logic- well, I suppose that there may be animals that are not satanic- doggies? Or are they too close to 'wolves'?  Well, so much for nature.... Men must be ok as long as their pinkies are not up... BTW, I suppose that anyone in the Victorian era (they drank tea with their pinkies up) were satanic, and so much for miss Manners.... Oh my!
I especially loved how he used the symbol of the woman with a star on her head as a symbol of the other ugly little idol that looked nothing like her and 'subliminally' put it next to the starbucks symbol so that we get programmed that women with crowns must be satanic- a little male chauvinism there.... He learned fast with the subliminal thing there, didn't he?

[knucklebrain1970]

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