Teleportation?!??!

[Tongo]

I went and checked out more on this Nikolay Denisov fellow. I looked at his UTUBE interivew vids but I be honest I have serious trouble understanding him or the interviewer. Although they are talking english, their accents keep me guessing what words there actually saying.

I also done a quick search for any pages about him rather than videos but couldnt find much at all.

Anyone got any pages about him (no vids of him trying to talk English pls lol)

Does anyone know what his basic idea of achieving this is? I'm very skeptical of this actually but its worth at least checking out.

[dotster]

Does he teach teleportation by email or anything like that?

If you e-mail him, I'm sure he would be happy to answer any questions you have, he's always gotten back to me within 2 to 3 days, and his written English is easier to understand than his spoken English. I haven't attempted to e-mail him in quite a while, only because I realized that I don't want to have so much on my plate that I can't eat it all, if you know what I mean. As I mentioned above, I believe that he does offer "lessons" via skype, but again, it has been a while since I have talked with him. Also, like I mentioned above, only a quick google search away and you can find his videos and his website. However it you're not feeling up to the chore, here it is:

http://goldray.narod.ru/

Click on the bottom left where it says <<<ENG for the english version of the site, and RUS>>> for the Russian version. He focuses primarily on teleportation and what he calls "seeing with the eyes closed" which I believe we would call remote-viewing. There is a link at the bottom of the screen for e-mail.

His video's do tend to be quite a bore, but he's the only person that I know of that does what he does and offers all of his information freely, so he really has nothing to gain by answering anyones questions, which is why I believe he's just genuinely interested in trying to help people understand. Like I said though, it's just not for me; not right now anyways. I'd just like to work on one or two things at a time, and even if I stopped everything else I was working on, teleportation in itself would probably fill up more plates than I could eat. Perhaps you feel differently though, so give it a go and keep me up-to-date on your progress.

All the Best,
Chris

[Tongo]

I think what he needs to do is list a very basic and understandable method to do it with a simple page of writing. I have come across a blog on him: http://teleportation-101.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=46 if you go to the 2nd utube video on there it has a online teaching, but trouble is again its hard to understand them plus there often seems to be some sound interfearance coming in and out.

If you notice at the end, the young lad on the bottom right says he has more coins since doing the exercise. I cant help thinking he's a plant like perhaps someone just pretending to say it worked to get people more interested or something so in the long run will take other courses where you pay.

Check out the tutorial videos guys and tell me what you think (if you can understand it) but I have the basic idea of the concept which seems to be familiarity with the object and somehow harnessing the feeling of the object and the energy intention and letting this happen thought the crown chakra then letting it "teleport" somewhere. I still cant help thinking; "surely it cant be this simple!"

[CamiGurlRox]

I didn't think I would stir up this much interest! Yay me!!! 

[Stookie]

I saw an interview a couple days ago with a guy working at CERN on the collider. They asked him what they could get out of it and he said (in a kind-of-serious way): teleportation

[Beero]

I spent a while clicking through links and looking through the blogs and websites related to Nikolay Denisov
I notice it said he is charging for his lessons now
I can't remember how much it was, it wasn't an obscene amount but still a lot if you're not sure if it will work & you're just trying it out

If you could either
a)stop time, i.e. stop time and do stuff while the world stood still
b)time travel
c)teleport
which would you choose?

[CamiGurlRox]

I spent a while clicking through links and looking through the blogs and websites related to Nikolay Denisov
I notice it said he is charging for his lessons now
I can't remember how much it was, it wasn't an obscene amount but still a lot if you're not sure if it will work & you're just trying it out

If you could either
a)stop time, i.e. stop time and do stuff while the world stood still
b)time travel
c)teleport
which would you choose?

I would choose teleportation!  Time travel is so dangerous! 

Have you ever seen that episode of twilight zone when time stands still and the guy has time to read all his books or something?  lol...seriously...If I could stop time, I would end up prolonging my life to the point where I'd be extremely depressed....although there are good effects to it.  As for time travel, abosolutely not, I might alter the course of history in some god forsaken way and end up not being born or mutated or something. O_o

But yeah...teleportation for sure! 

[Stookie]

If you could stop time, you would think you could alter it in other ways too, like making it faster or slowing it down. You could get through a church service really fast! I think I want that one. And instead of teleporting, you could stop time and get where you want over a few months (take your time - you have it), and start it up again.

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Actually (as a huge TZ fan), there was a nuclear explosion while he was in a bank vault reading, and when he got out, everyone was gone and he had all the time in the world to read.

And then he broke his glasses.

[Tongo]

You say he is charging for his lessons now? do you have any links as to where it mentions this online? please give me 1 or 2 if possible.

If he is charging now I think he'd obviously be more pressured to show actual no messing around teleportation. With this in mind, it makes me think his claims have to be genuine as it would only be a very short time before his students will be pressuring him to show exackly what he is talking about. It isnt like you can dally around the actual goal of the course and not actually have an obvious test done in front of each class. What you all think of this?

And about the Q......i'd Time Travel  

[Beero]

It says so at http://teleportation-101.blogspot.com/
at least it says he is charging for seeing with eyes closed which seems to be required to learn the teleportation

Denisov says that he would recommend first taking Vision (with eyes covered) training from him for 2 sets of 5 days. It's 2 hours per day -- and believe me it's two very intense hours! The cost is 500 Euro per 5 day course. It's the same price that Russians pay for Denisov Vision training.

After 5 days you (or most of you) will beging to see something with your eyes covered. In another 5 days you will read text. Some of you will read small print and some will see only big characters.

It'd be good too if you could do like RV but read text, would that mean you could read the winning lottery numbers which you're going to write down in the future??
but it also says,

we talked about goals of our Teleportation Research project. We believe that it would be nice to promote Teleportation research with some kind of scientific program. Would be nice to find financing for 1 year reseach project (pay to staff, pay to teleportation practitioners).

that would be wicked, being involved in teleportation research!


I'd choose to stop time, I love it in Heroes when Hiro stops time 

[CamiGurlRox]

If you could stop time, you would think you could alter it in other ways too, like making it faster or slowing it down. You could get through a church service really fast! I think I want that one. And instead of teleporting, you could stop time and get where you want over a few months (take your time - you have it), and start it up again.

OMG HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE MOVIE 'CLICK'?!?!?! .....butterfly effect man....really... 

It isnt like you can dally around the actual goal of the course and not actually have an obvious test done in front of each class.

Exactly, I wouldnt' join his course if there wasn't a genuine demonstration of it...

[Tongo]

Anyone tried these vision whilst ones eyes are closed? is it real? can you really see anything in front of you while your eyes are closed? also - why must this skill be utilized before one can teleport things?

Also ....has anyone got any exercizes? (possibly the same ones that this Russian guy teaches) to make one able to see when their eyes are closed? links to any tutorials if you happen to know of any. TY.

[Tongo]

(Read above) So.....anyone? (sry just trying to keep this number 1 for now.

[Baki Hanma]

I think the safest way to teleport woldbe to raise your vibrations of the physical body. Dont ask me how to do it cause Im still trying to figure it out. I hear that if you could raise it to the level of astral or etheric then you could go anywhere the mind can go. Then vala, your there!

This I assume takes Mind - Body and Spirit unity to a level superhuman cause it is not obtainable to normal human conscious or concentration. You will need to go beyond it. Some yogis are able to perfom Teleportation as well as some form of time stoping - but I think that is the stoping of their perception of time and not general time (evenes time).

I have Commander X's manuals on this called "Teleportation How to Guide : From Star Trek to Tesla ". I know many say that it isn't worth spit, but for those who believe it could offer some ideas or jogg someform of inspiration know how. I dunno, try it.

[Clockwork]

From what I can gather and have been told. Most if not all humans just dont have enough chi to teleport properly. Well with out an anchor that is. You would need god like chi or end up splinched. but if you do have an anchor, well that is a different story that I know very little about.

[Tongo]

Some yogis are able to perfom Teleportation as well as some form of time stoping - but I think that is the stoping of their perception of time and not general time (evenes time).

Come on Baki Hanma you saying some people can teleport their body? lets get real here, where have you heard such a claim?

[Baki Hanma]

Come on Baki Hanma you saying some people can teleport their body? lets get real here, where have you heard such a claim?

Didnt hear, read it . In any case thats what was written and dont ask me were I read it cause I dont rememeber. It was a while a go. Personally Im not to sure if they achieved physical teleportation. I was easily convinced that the teleportation spoke of was of an astral form or some type of OBE projection.

Teleportation may not be within human ability because it requires a state of concentration that is more or less inhuman. It isnt something that is done easily or simply. In anycase, though I believe it can be done, the problem is people dont know how it is done or how to perform it.

[AmbientSound]

I speculate that there are several factors involved in this, and I will use the computer as a model to illustrate my point.

First, you need enough memory to store your entire self-image. Second, you need to have a bus ( in computer terms, this is the pathway that information uses to read and write to memory) that has the capacity to transmit all that data outside of the Universe within a reasonable amount of time- otherwise it really would take 200 trillion years! Third, you need to be able to perceive yourself from outside the Universe. You are NOT your image. Your image is merely an avatar, a representation of who you are in the physical world.

I think the process would be to first write your self-image to memory. Then you need to make sure that you have the capacity to relay all of that information to your Self as it exists outside of space-time, with instructions to take yourself outside the Universe and then re-insert yourself to the desired coordinates. Those coordinates must be completely unoccupied in order for a successful teleportation to take place. I am not sure how this would be achieved, but I'm sure someone will come up with a way, eventually. Some of the laws of physics will have to be bent, such as what happens when you insert your body into a total vacuum (you start bleeding out of your pores and if the vacuum is strong enough you could explode).

There is a first-person shooter game called Marathon (which has a really cool plot, by the way), in which the player is a security guard aboard a starship that has been taken over by unknown hostile alien forces. In the game, you save your progress at pattern buffers (save stations). Your ability to come back after you die is explained in the game. The pattern buffer takes a snapshot of your physical body and re-creates you. However, you pop back in at the exact moment you stored your pattern, and that part isn't explained so well. In any case, my point is that in order for your consciousness to be re-inserted, it has to be aware of what is going on with your physical body. So I theorize that in the game, your consciousness has access, or at least a connection to, the pattern buffer.

I am not sure whether an external device is necessary to teleport or not. While relaying the information to your spirit body is probably a good idea, I am not sure if one's spirit body is capable of altering material substance from the Outside. It is obvious that we exist within our physical bodies for a reason, and perhaps part of our task here on earth is to learn how to connect with our physical bodies in as many ways as possible so that information can be exchanged to the point where the spirit-body is completely reintegrated with the physical body in a way that allows it to do with the physical body all the things it can in the spirit world.

I hope I'm making sense here, there are probably more points I need to explain.

[Lighten]

I think the subconscious and or other spiritual bodies do a lot of the work for us once we have a strong intent. I'm sure if someone really intended to teleport and they worked hard enough on it it would come true. All these complicated methods.....it feels like people trying to explain what it would take to transfer consciousness and fly around the world (astral projection) before they knew what it was. I think we just don't know enough yet.

I think

[Baki Hanma]

I think we just don't know enough yet.

And that is the reason why many of these abilities are outside our reach. If you know you can teleport, you will. Theres no need for the complicated or scientific explinations. Science studies the surface, and how things works from there on. They dont have the technology or knowledge to go deeper. Therefore people who place all their Faith in science will only achieve what science says is possible.

Many things we enjoy where at one point thought to be impossible and yet we take them for granted now. In the future, I bet teleportation will be achieved. And the people pf that era will know how to teleport and explain it as we are unable to today. They would probably also realise that we had the ability all along. We just never realised it cause we never believed in it. And we never believed in it because we werent able to explain it or see how it would even be possible.

So would you rather wait for someone else to discover it or achieve it so they can explain it to you - to give you your Faith in it's reality, which could take decades if not beyond your life time (meaning Im not sure). Or will you rather go at it on your own Faith, desire, will and ambition?

[AndrewTheSinger]

Nice topic!

Maybe teleportation is possible even today, it has been used in the past and the principle is very simple, I would love to speak about it one day, it is simply unimaginable.

[SkepticBoy]

Ok I got this out of focus magazine (sept 08 issue):

Scientists have teleported a few subatomic particles a short distance across their lab. Teleporting every atom in the human body and then reassembling them in the right order is slightly harder. There are 1028 atoms in the average person. Let's say (conservatively) that recording the state of each atom requires just one bit of data. Even with 8-meg broadband, transmitting your entire body is going to take around 40,000 billion years.

lol kinda impractical eh.

[Baki Hanma]

Nice topic!

Maybe teleportation is possible even today, it has been used in the past and the principle is very simple, I would love to speak about it one day, it is simply unimaginable.

Its one of my goals and Im not going to just sit around and wait for someone else to discover a scientific way or proof that it is possible or can be done  .

[interception]

Ok I got this out of focus magazine (sept 08 issue):

Scientists have teleported a few subatomic particles a short distance across their lab. Teleporting every atom in the human body and then reassembling them in the right order is slightly harder. There are 1028 atoms in the average person. Let's say (conservatively) that recording the state of each atom requires just one bit of data. Even with 8-meg broadband, transmitting your entire body is going to take around 40,000 billion years.

lol kinda impractical eh.

I could be wrong, but didn't they only duplicate the quantum state of a photon in the lab? 

I admit it would be damn cool, but: Breaking down the human body to the atomic level, transmitting the particles and reassembling them correctly without killing you will take such a ridiculous amount of energy and processing power that it is truly in the realm of fantasy. Not to mention the problem of what will happen to your energy bodies...

It will probably be vastly easier and far more energy efficient to open a freakin' personal wormhole and stepping through that with your body intact.

Yes, I know the body can be seen as just an illusion, but this universe has laws that aren't easily broken. Breaking these laws of physics must come with a price.

[CamiGurlRox]

Ah, wormhole eh...

Like the Jumper movie. O_O

So, how would one go about opening a wormhole....