Living without a soul

[PissedOff24]

Hello,

Is it possible to live without a soul? As in having no emotions, pretty much being an empty person. That would kind of suck, but I am just curious if living without a soul is indeed possible. I am still skeptical to the idea of a "soul". I have had experiences that are out of the ordinary you could say, but they could all just be hallucinations of my mind. Chemicals in my brain going haywire. I have tried meditating, for hours on end, but all I see is eternal darkness. Nothingness and an empty mind.

[zareste]

I think it's essential for a body to have a soul, otherwiser it just stays in a comatose state. If anything, one should question how well their soul can live without a body

[Old Dood]

The only 'beings' I have heard of that may not have a Soul is some of the Greys.
(ETs. And not all Greys are the same just like there are different humans).
What I have learned is that these smaller type Greys are basically Bio-Robots for lack of a better term. 
They are produced as clones much like an assembly line would produce vehicles.
The taller Greys are very intelligent and I believe they have a soul.

I am pretty sure humans all have a soul....
Then again I am no expert nor will I pretend to be one.
It is hard enough just being ignorant old me...hehe! 

[zareste]

Is there any real indication that Greys don't have souls? I always wondered about that, because every Grey-type I've heard of had a pretty good understanding of the soul. Some have it down to such a science that they can split their life force and place them in several bodies to do multiple tasks.

I did hear something about Zetans in particular believing they have no soul, but it sounded more like a belief

[The Present Moment]

You may want to seek out a meditation teacher.

[SnakeDoctor]

to be honest...


i think the "soul" is just a category in what makes us US...like our emotions, personality(cant spell the next word) and that voice in side your head. like you said, w/o a soul we would be empty boring people.


thats just what i feel is right.

[volcomstone]

 
     Everything that exists in this universe has an energy associated with it. To say that a stone , or tree , or bird doesn't have a  soul is to deny it's existence as a member of your experience. 

     Are you aware that you have a soul? I'm sure some humans aren't aware of their own soul. Ignorance is not an excuse.

Everything leaves an echo.  What has been done cannot be un-done. We violently etch our existance into the source. We are branded, symbols of our individuality can be stored and written into the akashic.  Our physical beings are transient, but possess all the power our ancestors fought for.

       The fact that  We can even contemplate the existance of a soul shows our spiritual evolution.  What greatness we are privaleged to possess!  The potential to be anything!   Can we pass the tests?   Will we be the next stewards of reality? or will we become a cosmic embarrassment?

 

[Everlasting]

Most people are soulless (75%) due to corrupted genetics, soulless people are very selfish and in many cases immoral. Soulless people begets soulless children. Don't worry about being soulless,A soulless person would not hang around an  astral projection forum.

[Old Dood]

I sorry but, where do you get this 75% of people are 'Soulless' bit from?

I am no expert on genetics, or souls, or anything really but, to throw out a percentage like that I would need to know what backs that up...please!

Now I stated I heard that there are the smaller Grey Aliens that are cloned as 'Bio-Robots' without souls but, I have no actual proof.
It makes sense to me but, then again I am no expert.  I am still learning.

[Stookie]

What most people know as a soul is probably really just the astral body. You can't exist physically without one.

But James Brown had more soul than a sock with a hole.

[PissedOff24]

Great post, volcomstone. Yes, it is amazing that we are able to recongize a soul, and yes, most people aren't even aware that they have one because society shoves materialism in their faces. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

One more question: When do you think humanity will start to recognize their spiritual side? We are, perhaps, in the most low levels of consciousness ever for Humanity. Many problems are the cause for this, problems that would take up the whole page here. There are individuals who recognize their spiritual reality, and then there are others who could not care less about it.

[joel1212]

I read somewhere that grey's and reptilians don't have souls.

[Stookie]

I don't know... this guy seems to have soul:

[CFTraveler]

   @ the ET with Soul
But srsly, what do you think 'soul' means?  I've seen the word mentioned in many of these posts to mean something physical and body-dependent.  As if emotions were only caused by having a soul.  Really?  Emotions are a response of the primitive (reptilian) part of the brain, and people with no affect (emotions) have physical (hormonally or neurally) anomalies in their physical bodies.
So what is soul to you?  Is it part of your body like the paleocortex or the feet, or the spleen, is it part of your mind (the "You" who thinks)?  Or is it something else?
This topic is really confusing to me, especially connecting the soul to genetics.

[zareste]

I'm sure there's a reptilian somewhere who read that humans don't souls. Pfffft

[kurtykurt42]

I've heard that some of the greys are androids and therefore don't have souls.

[CFTraveler]

I've heard that some of the greys are androids and therefore don't have souls.

That I understand.  However, I have read (from others' accounts, not my own) that some 'species of alien' are using 'droid bodies that have had their consciousness downloaded into them.  Provided this is true (just for the 'what ifs') would you think something like that would have a soul?

[kurtykurt42]

I don't see why not. I believe some species have interdimensional technolgy that is able to store their mind/energy body/soul in large crystal devices. This mind can then be transferred into a physical body, weather it be biological or mechanical and allowed to function similar to ours. As they grow old, the on board computer of their ship will use this advanced crystal technology to temporarily store their mind while the new body is built/grown. Then the transfer process will take place and the individuals mind will now be in complete control of the new body.

[Stillwater]

I think it's essential for a body to have a soul, otherwiser it just stays in a comatose state.

That is indeed what Descartes would say. Some Muslim philosophers and theologians would go so far as to say a body cannot even be living without a soul- the concept is what Aristotle would call the "vegetative" aspect of a soul.

I tend to think it is a moot point. I would say that anything with a mind or mental experiences exists in the strongest sense of the word. If you don't possess a mind, you surely possess being in a lesser sense, and would not truly be an "I" anyhow- such a thing would need to be an object of the experience of an "I" in order to be recognized as having any existence, whereas entities with mental experience can recognize their own existence directly, if that makes sense. It is the idea called a "self-evident truth".

[Stookie]

Taking a somewhat Christian approach at the soul: it would be the part of us that intermediates between the spirit (higher self?) and the body. From the body (physical) it's impossible to be in conscious connection with spirit. The soul (astral body) carries our desires and creativity and drives for physical life. It's also the part of us that allows ego to participate in conscious thinking for physical life.

The body can't exist without an astral body, and the astral body dissolves it's parts back into spirit without a physical body. (I guess, I don't really know, I still have one.)

[caterpillarwoman]

I have had experiences that are out of the ordinary you could say, but they could all just be hallucinations of my mind.

How do you know that EVERYTHING isn't just a hallucination in your mind? Like a dream?

[mo]

I don't know... this guy seems to have soul:

proof: greens have souls



why shouldnt greys have souls? do animals have souls? so you would say insects dont have souls and say "a human can recognize a soul!". maybe you are mistaken on this?

[zareste]

When I hear astral entities talk about a soul, they often call it a 'mind', simply. Not something entirely separate from the body, but not entirely bound to it. I've spent quite some time trying to figure out what this spirit/mind thing is and I'm only recently getting an understanding of it. It is extremely complex and neither human religions nor human science seems to grasp it.

Reptilians and Zetans, in all irony, are some of the best references.

Supposedly, humans have an extraordinary potential to use and understand the soul. I read that the Atlanteans (and some others) did things with the data/energy level of space that most humanoids in our galaxy can't do - at least, not without machinery. The destruction of Atlantis seems to have been caused by outsider factions that feared human potential.

[Greytraveller]

Hallo everybody

Kurtykurt, you wrote

I don't see why not. I believe some species have interdimensional technolgy that is able to store their mind/energy body/soul in large crystal devices. This mind can then be transferred into a physical body, weather it be biological or mechanical and allowed to function similar to ours. As they grow old, the on board computer of their ship will use this advanced crystal technology to temporarily store their mind while the new body is built/grown. Then the transfer process will take place and the individuals mind will now be in complete control of the new body.

Have any of the concepts that you write about here been proposed in literature or on the internet or did you form these ideas on your own? If these ideas can be found elsewhere could you provide any links??
(I am curious because a similar thread to this was started in the openmindsforum.com website. It deals with alien technology being able to beam/transmit souls/soul energy across interstellar space.)

Thanx for any replies in advance.

Regards 
Grey

[kurtykurt42]

In the tv series Stargate SG1 the race of gray aliens known as the asgard had the ability to download there counsiousness to and from the ships computer. They would have a new body cloned for them and then the individuals mind would be placed into the new body.

As for beaming minds across space, that would probably be pretty easy for a race that mastered interdimensional travel. Since energy bodies are able to move at the speed of thought through space, all you would have to do is use an interdimensional stargate.