can people cure themselves of psychic torture

[Anonymous]

I wonder if existential philosophy would work on negs. Convince them that they don't exist, and poof! they disappear in a puff of logic. I wonder if they're stupid enough to believe it.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Hope,
It's not us putting the mental images there and then it happens. The images are being sent to us and then they happen. I have learned this from experience. I have had mental images sent to me and they have happened. Thank God I have had some to me and they never happened.

Enderwiggin,
Please don't take this as an insult try to tell a person they don't exist. I went to see a Catholic priest about an exorcism and he told me to tell it that it is loved and blessed and go to the light. Whoo what a mistake. Tell a living person to go to the light. This person already tried doing this to me. He had me see a white light and told me to go to the light. I told him they didn't want me. It's not my time. I learned to tell it you are loved and blessed surround yourself with white light and go away. This didn't work either. This person aura is white. He has spiritual power but his mind is evil.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

I think I may have found out part of my problem. Here is a website http://freespace.virgin.net/spiritual.world/magnetic.htm
it tells the difference between a magnetic and spiritual healer. I believe this person used the magnetic energy on me when he so called dragged my aura. He would have then have his energy in my aura field. The lady I seen almost 2 years ago told me I had a male aura surrounding my so he must have released his energy around my aura when he dragged it.

[Anonymous]

Crim, I want a piece of this guy. He cannot touch me because he knows nothing about me. I know that it is possible to do long-distance healing using qi energy. If I ever successfully project, I will go after this guy and take him out of his body and mess him up. I have high intelligence, which helps a lot. I get really angry about stuff like this. When people do this kind of thing to each other, as a Shaolin, I feel I need to put a stop to it. I offer to help in whatever way I can, and accept full responsibility for all the risk involved. Now, tell me what I can do to help, and we will fight him together. I would not normally offer such help, but since this guy is alive, it is a different scenario.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

This man knows everyone I talk to. He pick up the names as I read them. I once had three people helping me. He attacked the person by knowing his name on line. He attacked him while three of us where chatting together. The person told me his was a black man. I told him no. The person said he must be using black magic. The person screamed when the attack occured. The attack from him was very short. This person does things to make people threaten him to give him the excuse to attack people but the threat come from him first and when you threaten back he attacks.

[goingslow]

Wow if you're as intelligent as you claim to be a few giant flaws in suggesting you and criminalmind should go after this guy you know NOTHING about should just jump out at you.

First of all wouldnt you need proof or would you take someones word for it and go mess some guy up because another guy in a forum said he knows he's his attacker?

I feel sorry for you if anyone ever thinks you're their psychic attacker.  Theres no way you could ever realy know that so to just suddenly wage war on some guy seems incredibly foolish (nice word for it btw).

[Anonymous]

If he throws the first blow, I will kill him.

[goingslow]

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

If he throws the first blow, I will kill him.

tell me when you get back to reality... thats such an incredibly stupid thing to say.  You're obviously not very intelligent. Once again you dont know this guy and think of what you'r esaying. you're going to take someone's perception of him and "kill" someone.  First of all i hope by saying "kill" you were joking and meant hurt.  I suggest you get over yourself and your false sense of grandeur.  You're making this psychic self defense seem really stupid.

[Anonymous]

...not literally, of course. Maybe just make him insane. I can mess with his head. He should dare not mess with a martial artist of the Shaolin school of kung fu. My teacher is clairvoyant and he will avenge me if anything happens to me. My teacher is very, very powerful. This man is no match for our clan. If he fights one of us, he fights all of us. I could have a whole army attacking him if I wanted to. I NEVER throw the first blow in a fight. I try to avoid fights the best I can, but if this man wants to attack me, he can go right ahead. Shaolin men never give up. He will be making a mistake he will regret forever. The thing about the bad guy is, sooner or later they will make a mistake and they will get caught. It happens every time.

[goingslow]

you're obviously a shaolin god

[Anonymous]

I thought that was assumed. I'm not that stupid. Of course I wouldn't do it without proof. I'm not going to tell anyone here HOW I plan to prove it, because he can read this through Crim and find out. But... I will say that if I do not see him doing anything, then obviously I'm not going to attack him. I do not just blindly go into a fight without first getting to know my opponent's tactics. What I am saying is that if indeed he is attacking, and he is an evil man, then he's going to have me on his hands. I'm going to tell him to stop first. I'm going to warn him. If he attacks me, THEN I'll lay the smackdown.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Going read the other post on attackers. There is no doubt who my attacker is. People have seen cords go from me to him. I have talked to several people some that know him. They know he is doing this. A disincarnate will not pump you with energy they drain it from you. This person pumps my heart chakra with energy. I seen him place his hand to that area. He had me close my eyes who knows what else he did and where he placed his hands. He could have corded me any where I just happened to open my eyes and he was bent over some and then placed his hands there. I don't know enough about black magic to know what all he had down because it is very appearant he used black magic.

[Celeste]

Hmm do I wanna get involved in this discussion???
  Why do people come to the conclusion that magical psychic attack & the presence of negs are mutually exclusive?
 I met someone who was being psychically attacked,  she was very certain that it was by a specific, evil, individual & whether that WAS the case or not doesn't matter at this point---she DID have NEGS attached to her. I don't generalize this to everyone's case, but I can tell you of this one where it WAS the case. This also doesn't mean that a person was not involved also.

  Direct confrontation of Negs or a person is not the way to eliminate the interference, it would most likely only add to the problem.

  It is natural to be affected by someone's experience of pain or suffering. Becoming all vigilante about it should be a signal that your ego needs to be dealt with lest you might make things worse for the person suffering & the Universe gives you a huge lesson in humility. Which is not fun. [] Robert's book is the best guide to how to deal with this stuff IMHO. Take care

[hope1973]

Dear Celeste,


  What is your gut feeling about me?I feel that a curse which i've mentioned before froman angry relative resulte in a transfer of energy from negs which had haunted her due to the suffering at the hands of my uncle to me.Her threats/curse formed an invisible dagger in the ether which struck a few months later when I was a bit down at school(therefore vulnerable to them)i can even remember the dates-her curse was summer 88 and I was stressed at school spring 89 which is when I felt the energy(the possession, i now believe)go through my body.It has been one long night sincespring 1989.

  And as I was only 14 when she cursed, a child,I was sensitive.Also i am sensitive as a person.Worse,I have relatives who practice witchcraft and as this is happening,my door is wide open.


   Today i thinking that all of this happened because I was at the wrong place at the wrong time. My evil uncle went on to marry again and is sooooo happy,so why did a 14 year old child who wasn't even aware of their doomed marriage suffer?I was innocent.

  They are so clever,the negs,that they knew they would kill me spiritually by taking my looks -I have never heard of this happen.their drillin on my head has given me bald spots on my head(I'm in my 20s)and i've lost well over 90% thickness wise.In the morning I can smell the room which smells like vomit-they make my head smell of vomit.Maybe this is my lot,if so then let me die in my sleep,I am so tired.

[Anonymous]

Goingslow, I'll have you know that I don't just go around attacking people. I've never attacked anyone before. But I do what I can to help innocent peope. I see your point about proof, and it is well-taken. I'm sorry I forgot to mention that in my offer to help, but I have NOT forgotten to include it in my methods. However, insulting me by calling me a fool or mocking me isn't solving anything either. I offer my help to someone who I believe deserves my help, and I will look into this and I will get my proof.

Crim- I just had an ingenious plan. Post EVERYTHING he does and is capable of doing here. Make a list. That way, we can get some facts sorted out. It may be that he is being attacked by a neg and the neg is using him to attack you. It could be part of some great big thing. You mentioned he attacked those who tried to help you, which is why I think this might be the case, that you may be just one victim of many in some great big plot by negs or demons (probably demons, since negs are not intelligent). I sensed that he (or they) is (are) frustrated with me. He is having a hard time with me. I was in class and felt him trying to do something. I felt like the back of my head was on fire. But it wasn't that bad. I did nothing to him, just watched him. I'll keep him under suveillance, just to get my proof.

Celeste, can I block attacks for Crim, i.e. stand in the way so he gets me instead of her with his attacks? You're right about my ego, I think. I do get really frustrated when I can't help someone. It infuriates me when someone attacks someone else at random like that Crim describes. It really gets under my skin. I hate feeling helpless so I can relate when others feel helpless. If he knows that I plan to do something to stop him from attacking people, maybe he's going to attack her more to tinkle me off? Well, that won't work anymore because I realize my flaws now. I know he'll try to get me angry, but I won't let him. I see where my weaknesses are, so at least I can analyze him by his actions against me. The enemy is the greatest teacher of all. That is why I have decided to go about it in a more subtle approach, which I will not reveal here. I will get my proof and be fair to both sides. I am not a judge and I am not God. What I said I said out of mostly frustration. It's hard to think when you're frustrated. Still, if he does anything to me, I've got an army behind me. Anyway, point well-taken.

One other idea I had was getting this man back to the good side, by getting rid of the negs around him. I doubt I am the first do come up with this plan, but it's worth a shot. Save everyone I can. I bet he has a lot of negs attacking him, and they're probably controlling his thoughts, feelings, etc. Maybe we should pray for him to get better and become wise and spiritually advanced. It would be nice to have him on our side.

Crim, do you think someone stole his heart chakra, maybe one of his past wives?

[goingslow]

You obviously have good intentions and thats never a bad thing. I reacted to the fact I wouldnt want some person to get attacked when there could be a mistake.

remember that saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" that kind of comes to mind.

[Anonymous]

Crim-

Will you still accept my help, if I don't attack him? You can tell me what to do. Whatever he does to me is between me and him. I cannot sit by and let this go on.

[Anonymous]

Goingslow, I agree. I'm sorry I didn't make that clearer.

[kakkarot]

well, enderwiggin, you could spiritually get in the way. try shielding crim from a distance and directing any energy that comes his way to go to you instead. then when he shows up on your spiritual doorstep, beat the crap out of him.

of course, as a warning i'd just like to mention the one time in my life where i was fighting a demon and it was about to run away, and in a moment of sadistic hatred for it i yelled at it spiritually to possess me, secretly wanting to just beat the crap out of it and then expell it from me. so it possessed me and for the next few months we were at each others "throats" almost non-stop. funny to think of it from a point of view of carrying on with my normal life at the same time. in the end, though, we were both the worse for it and we both learned a good lesson from it.

but still an idea.

~kakkarot

[Anonymous]

Thanks, Kakkarot, I appreciate your input. I definitely don't want to get in the way, and I heed all warnings, both from my gut and from others. I will try shielding and taking that energy onto myself. I won't touch (attack) this guy though, despite how evil he seems. I believe humans are inherently good and that this guy was the target of a demon's plan to make lots of people suffer. So I feel that targeting the demon might help. Whatever energy he throws at me to harm me, I'll reflect back to him, in a passive, nonchallant manner. I'll use my ju jitsu mentality (ju jitsu means "gentle way") to nullify the attacks. It's the demons I want. Like I said, I'm not going to fight them. Demons usually aren't like that anyway. They like to mess with a person's mind by confusing them with thoughts rather than fighting them. I encountered either a powerful neg or a demon once. I could sense it, and it was a strong presence. I told it to leave, I visualized a cross of light, and, despite the fact that I was beside my Wiccan girfriend at the time, who was sleeping, the demon thing left. I think, had I not been there, that it would have attacked my girlfriend, but since I detected its presence, it left. I felt that it was not coming for me.

[kakkarot]

i don't see the problem with attacking an evil person. i know for a fact that humans are born neither good nor evil, it is their upbringing that nudges them onto one of the two paths.

killing a human is different though. i'm not allowed to do that without a really good reason.

but fighting evil is ok! and one way to stop them (at the very least, for a while) is to bind them. that's right, shield their energy from themself. make it strong enough and you, hopefully, won't "hear" from them for a looooong time.

~kakkarot

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Here is some scoop on the man. He told me that he doesn't have hearing in his one ear because when he was young his dad hit him and broke his ear drum and he can't hear out of one of his ears. I learned from this the man dislikes violence but only violence that happens to him. He was cheating on his wife so his wife cheated back on him not he resents what she did to him. He wants to pay people back for things that they did. None of these events had anything to do with him. He thinks in his mind that I'm being paided back for things that I have done. I never went into someone's mind and tormented them. What he doesn't realize that if he is doing this to me then it should be done to him. I had an instance today where he put words into my mouth or the word into the other person's mind. This man is trying to get me thrown out of the trailer court I live in. I had to talk to the manager today so I tried to put a white shield up around me so nothing could be sent out threw me. Everything was find and I was talking then all of a sudden the man said I used the word cult. I beleive he bounce the energy to him because he slightly moved his head like I seen another person do and didn't know where the word come from. I can now recognize someone elses energy in my body and what kind of effect it has on me. Also the voice, which he tries to match as mine but it doesn't work anymore.

Enderwigger, he very well may have attacked you. He does know what you said. Before you do anything be sure first. Ask your teacher first if he is clairvoyant to see if it was him. Your teacher may be able to find the information out for you. This man likes to attack peopel that know nothing about magic. He wouldn't attack people that knows who to attack back. What he needs is a taste of his own medicine. I hope every person he has attacked goes after him and pays him back. Not any the people he has attacked but also the ones he has threatened and that is quite a few just talking to me.
Everyone I talk to he tells me he is in them. So what he is telling me is that he enters them and then tells them what to do. I won't get help from anyone because he enters them and tells them not to. The joke is if the people know how to do magic then they would shut down and wouldn't let him in.

I'm not just trying to tell my story here. There is more to what has happened to me.I'm telling you the tactics that are being used. Not many people understand that thoughts and emotions are sent to them that isn't theirs. Until they do they are opened to what everyone calls karma. I'm not sure any one could understand until they experience and see what I have seen. I understand what need has said. How people react to him. Not because of himself but what is projected to other people because he is around them. This is where the use of bouncing energy to people comes into play.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Here is something I put together from another book I read.
Mind Power

Every night before you fall asleep there are simple exercises which you can perform to help you open the channels to your own Supraconscious:

1. Lie flat on your back and relax every muscle in your body. Start with the ends of your toes and little by little work your way upward until you are completely untensed.
2. Concentrate mentally on having a full night's relaxed and peaceful sleep.

Implant the seven points in your mind.

Autosuggestion is the secret to air-conditioning.
Plant the suggestion into your supraconscious.
1 Before falling asleep, relax completely and open the passageway to your supraconscious.
2. Now repeat to yourself a positive thought expressing a positive desire.
3. At first it may be best to repeat this thought over and over. It may be necessary to repeat it aloud.
4. As you acquire proficiency at reaching your supraconscious, you will find you can suggest to yourself any positive thought silently and a single time.

Developing the suprasense
There are 3 components of the suprasense: radio (or clairaudience), telegraphy (or telepathy) and television (or clairvoyance).
All 3 parts of this gift you can put to use if you follow these simple rules:
1. Never disregard any single thought of the hunch or 6th sense variety. Note it well it makes itself know to you.
2. Write down all such thoughts on a small pad.
3. Before going to sleep at night, turn to the thought-or possibly thoughts- that you had during the day.
4. Mediate on them. Allow them to be retransmitted by your conscious to your supraconscious.
5. In the morning reread the thought, or thoughts, again.
6. Mediate in silence until your conscious mind brings to you the answer giving the worth of this matter as evaluated by your supraconscious.
7. Don't hesitate to use the wealth of this knowledge, immediately and to be the fullest.

Making the most of what you know
Upon waking:
1. Think deeply to reveal to yourself any ideals that have pushed to the conscious surface during your sleep hours.
2. Write them down. This need not to be a thorough exposition of the thought. A catch phrase is probably best, especially if there has been more than one thought to record so that lengthy writings of any one will fade the others from the conscious memory of the moment.
3. After you have eaten breakfast, reread what you have written.
4. Apply the creativeness of your memory, as recorded in your note pad, to your problems of the day.
5. Don't hesitate to use your note pad all through the day- or even upon awaking during your sleeping hours- to register the results of your memory as they flash to your conscious.

Mind over Matter
Make all thoughts positive.
Think of the brain as having many thoughts. You are the keeper of positive thoughts to keep the body in good health.
Think over every emotion twice before allowing it to register on your subconscious:
1a. If it's a positive thought , then think on it again and meditate on it.
 B. Allow it to "soak in" so that you can store it for future help to you.
2a. If it is a negative thought then recognize it as of anxiety and fear.
 B. Go to the root of that fear, see it's not right and then laugh for being tricked.
C. Meditate to you reverse the negative emotion into a positive.
D. Once you have made your negative thought into a positive one, follow the procedure as outline above in step 1.

Mind over Matter

Make all thoughts positive ones.
Think of your brain as a warehouse of thoughts. You are the stock-keeper. You have the responsibility of ordering and keeping in good supply the positive thoughts necessary for running your body.
Think every emotion twice before allowing it to register into your supraconscious.
1.a If  it is a positive thought- a constructive, purpose, healthy thought- then think it again and meditate on it.
B. Allow it to soak in so that you can store it for future help to you.
2.a If  it is a negative thought- recognize it as a result of fear and anxiety.
B. Go to the root of the fear, recognize the immaturity of having such a fear, and laugh at your self for having been tricked.
c. Now meditate until you reverse the negative emotional thought into a positive.
d. Once you have  made your negative thought into a positive one, follow the procedure as outline above in step 1.

Fighting The Age-Disease

Love is the all curing medicine that conquers the dreaded disease known as old age.
Learn to use the formula of love.
At least once each night before you fall asleep and again at least once each day, preferably in the morning before the strain of the day repeat each of the following thoughts:
"The proper name for God in man is Love"
And
"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself"
The best active use of the formula of love will come at any time during a period of stress or strain in any day.

Setting your prayer in motion

These 5 steps are to be memorized.
1. Prayer when you are alone.
2. Find a quiet place.
3. Free yourself of from all destructive emotions.
4. Relax physically and emotionally.
5. Concentrate on a simple truth and never wander from it.

Making the Faith Factor Function

Faith is action. To believe, you must do.
Read this everyday. Read it aloud at first. After you realize the importance you can read it silently.
"I can only be successful and happy if I have humble but reasonable confidence in my own powers."

Rules for a New Life for vital Life

You must never lose faith in the fact that you have within you the power to do with your life exactly what you will. Use this power, for if it is allowed to lie fallow it will diminish and disappear.
Use it or Lose it.
Tell you supraconscious exactly what you want.
Desire it with all your heart.
Have complete confidence that you will attain it.

Happiness isn't Happenstance

All habits good or bad can be acquired.
Doing this exercises develops good habits. Get rid of monotony.

Fighting Disease

5 rules
1. Have positive, affirmative faith so that you may release the deep spiritual power of God's loving care.
2. Remember that spiritual forces as well as the  scientific techniques of medicine are important in healing.
3. Avoid disharmony.
4. Visualize a picture of yourself of perfect health, happiness and vitality. Let the picture sink into the supraconscious so that the this wonder worker of your mind can control a positive thought pattern of healing.
5. Never become upset, worried or panicky in illness. This will only up a pattern of negative thoughts which will be destructive and only create greater disease.

New Psychology

Positivism vs. negativism
3 rules to intellectual and spiritual growth
1. Anxiety is a killer.
2. Anxiety is the result of negative thinking.
3. The natural enemy of anxiety is positive thinking.
FOUR TIMES A DAY RADAR CHECK
1. Every day when you awake ask:
Am I bright and cheery?
Am I willing to face the day and all it will hold?
Am I well rested from my sleep?
Am I happy to be able to live longer and be more successful?
Every answer must be yes- truly meant
2. At noon everyday ask:
Was my morning successful?
Did I prevent any reverses- no matter how large- from upsetting me?
Did I allow no one to irritate me?
Do I really feel like having lunch now?
Will I enjoy my meal and not have indigestion because some upset this morning?
Every answer must be yes- truly meant
3. Before the evening ask:
Has the day been satisfactory?
Did I achieve harmony with everyone I had contact with?
Did I cover come each and every problem that was presented?
Am I looking forward eagerly to going home and family now?
Every answer must be yes- truly meant
4. The most important radar-check of the day is before falling asleep. Ask:
Am I looking forward to tomorrow?
The answer must be yes.

How to use your inner power.

The power of suggestion is so strong, so powerful, so mighty that it can bring you bodily healing of a sort than can only be termed miraculous. Combine power of visualization and affirmation preparatory to employing autosuggestion you can cure your own self-induced ailments and render yourself immune to many of the diseases to which mankind has fallen heir.
Rules for visualizations and affirmatives
1. On a piece of paper write any affirmative.
2. Visualize that affirmation in your minds eye, with physical eyes closed.
3. Practice this until you are able to project a visual image any where in your body.
4. Thus being able to channel your visual image, the curative powers of the supraconscious can be to rid you of pain, discomfort, ache, tension, congestion or ailment.
To effectively bring these powers into use by yourself, you must:
1. Have confidence in yourself.
2. Allow no doubt to nullify the effectiveness of your suggestions.
3. Be prepared to counteract all efforts of your habitual everyday thinking that may be contrary to your curative desires.
4. Never beg the subjective forces to make you ill by using such phrases as such and such made me sick.

Giving your day it's due

Just before you go to sleep imagine in your minds eye the problem to which you want a solution. You then are transitioning it into your subconscious.

Dozen rules to follow

Each week
!. The seven Propositions
2. Power of suggestion on the supraconscious.
3. Meditate on good and release negative.
4.Every minute of the day love.
5. Prayer.
6. Use faith.
7. Think happiness.
8. Use power and wisdom.
9. Use new psychology.
10. Over come habit.
11. Give yourself extra life. At night focus on problem.
12. Make yourself vital.

   

[Celeste]

Dear Hope
I am not psychic & no expert. I am just a spiritual seeker that's doing the best she can & trying to stay outa trouble.[]
My advice is do as Nita says-- you've got to stop fixating on the problem & get busy on applying the countermeasures--NOW girl! Don't worry about your looks--that can all change easily back to what they were or better. Besides looks has nothing to do with your spirituality--that's what is in your heart. You are way more than your looks.  Get connected to what ever Higher Power you believe in. What stuff are you doing?
Are you reading the book PPSD? & applying it?
Are you Praying non-stop?  Are you going to a Holy place & praying?
Have gotten any of the protective herbs? Rosemary, Marjoram,cloves, Sage? Incense?
Did you get any Rosemary essential oil? There is lots of helpful advice on this site & the suggestions I gave you before but you've got to use it.
One of the lessons I learned early on is that we can call in a whole lot of Spiritual Power to help us --but first we must pull ourselves up by our bootstraps because the Power is really within us. Nobody can do that for us.   The Universe is standing by patiently beaming love at you. []

[CRIMINALMIND63]

There is something that needs to be understood. A real live person is doing this to me. He doesn't consider himself evil and his aura is white. He is into Egyptian magic which he considers more powerful then anything by Christ or the bible. None of these things to bother him. He knows everything I do so if there is something evil he can counteract the good with he is doing probably before I even get to do the positive thing. I believe this is part of Hope problem also. It is strange but not to many psychics that I have talked to told me I had a cord going to from me to him. Some people I have talk to on line that seen my aura told me that there was one. I have been told by one psychic that he aura was outlining mine. From what this person has told me he is in my body, aura, chakras one of them. I'm not sure if every has the sight to see all cords attached because some can be very small.