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Dragohad · December 10, 2009, 09:33:29

I'm looking for sites that go into detail about Psychokinesis, and i wasnt sure if this already go put up, but i was wondering if you guys and gals knew of any good PK sites that were respectable.
Thank you,
Drago.

Zino · December 10, 2009, 15:40:43

Hm, honestly and most respectfully. I do not believe PK is possible, currently it is a mere fantasy, do you not think we would've been lead to it properly if it was real? I'm sorry if you take offense to this but I'm just giving my honest opinion, again I'm sorry if any offense was caused.

Dragohad · December 10, 2009, 16:34:01

non-sense....ur opinion is accepted....i take all things equally...yin/yang.
where 1 is, the other is sure to follow.

anyone else have anything to say or add?....

vladjackguy · December 11, 2009, 07:15:42

I believe in PK. I even studied it but a long time ago.It takes time to develop and understand an "flow" with it.

What exactly type of PK you want to try?

I studied for a long time telekinesis pyrokinesis electrokinesis.These were the ones I focused on more than others.

Dragohad · December 11, 2009, 09:40:03

I'm looking for methods on how to move objects, cuz i wish to compare the techniques i leanred a long time ago and i'm trying to pick it back up again.

vladjackguy · December 12, 2009, 09:49:47

Try this site.It's good for begginers: http://learn-telekinesis-training.com/

Dragohad · December 12, 2009, 13:57:02

not trying to be rude here, but i'm not a beginner. i have a history of 10 years on and off with psychokinesis...

the method i use when i do finally get around to doing it....is to not think of moving the object, but feel it move/expect it to move. i dont visualise. yet the objects i want to move eventually after a few seconds{30-60 seconds} starts to move. the objects i moved so far are: the psiwheel {paper, aluminum}, pencils, pens, bouncy balls, cigarettes {rolled off table} and any other exercises i feel like taking a shot at....and although i know i can move things so far i havent tried to move chairs and such yet.....i dont think i got it in me just yet...

anyways...i'm sorry if i sounded rude on saying that i wasnt a beginner.

oh and the site...no offence...doesnt say excrement on it....just simple things....and the video of the guy moving the page...is a fake...u can see the page being pulled by a string thats held in the off-camera hand.and thats why he flips through it once more to find that page....but cancels once he remembers not to show how he cheated on camera. {just what i saw anyways}

Zino · December 12, 2009, 14:39:20

Hm, you say you have moved these things, but these things also commonly move due to a draft and then it finding an odd angle on the table, if you can show me a video of you moving a small box (Rubix cube for example) and making it fall off a table I will apologize and then practice this!

But, if it was possible, why would people not do such thing at shows, move chairs around, teach others? Millions would flock to it, if it were completely legit.

Again, I am sorry if I sound offensive, just trying to decipher this

Dragohad · December 12, 2009, 15:09:42

i got a video on youtube that show me moving a psiwheel. u want the link mr. sceptic?
here you go then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQouh9ZtP7c

enjoy

~puts on a fake smile and tilts head to the side~

GANAMOHA · December 13, 2009, 05:08:07

I'm quite certain these abilities exist within out realm of existence.

That being said, the mindset and level of spirituality involved behind it are so overwhelmingly critical towards manifesting abilities of any sort that most people never achieve it. Simply wishing for the ability to fly everyday as well as attempting to probably isn't going to bring anything. Meditation and learning to harmonize your body with that of what's around you brings understanding and inevitably the steps for change. This also explains why you aren't going to see masters wandering around teaching everyone they meet. To what advantage does enabling telekinetic powers allow for spiritual growth? I've gone in circles, but really that's what it all boils down to. These things would come naturally if you sought to progress your whole being. Ironically, the chances are pretty slim that you'd ever be using them once you got them anyways. Sounds like it sucks? you're not ready for those capabilities then.

Something worth thorough contemplation. Break the cycle and create the change yourself, however oblivious we all are.

AND Roux · December 13, 2009, 05:15:51

Quote from: Zino on December 12, 2009, 14:39:20
Hm, you say you have moved these things, but these things also commonly move due to a draft and then it finding an odd angle on the table, if you can show me a video of you moving a small box (Rubix cube for example) and making it fall off a table I will apologize and then practice this!

Allow me to reiterate these points for Zino(the parts that have been bolded).

Quote from: Dragohad on December 12, 2009, 15:09:42
i got a video on youtube that show me moving a psiwheel. u want the link mr. sceptic?
here you go then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQouh9ZtP7c

enjoy

~puts on a fake smile and tilts head to the side~

After seeing the video, I honestly can't tell if you are being facetious or if you are truly trying to prove to the members on this board that you have these abilities.
In the video, "you" spin an almost weightless wheel suspended on a cylinder with terrible video quality and horrible lighting.

But, this is a forum for open minded people. So lets so you really did move the weightless wheel. It took you learning/practicing those techniques for 10 years(on and off again) just to spin that piece of paper? Perhaps this was some of your earlier work?

I would like to believe that some people do indeed have these abilities, but until you post a more legitimate video of you moving something with a little mass to it, I will have to remain a skeptic.

Andrew

vladjackguy · December 13, 2009, 06:19:15

Quote from: Dragohad on December 12, 2009, 13:57:02
not trying to be rude here, but i'm not a beginner. i have a history of 10 years on and off with psychokinesis...

the method i use when i do finally get around to doing it....is to not think of moving the object, but feel it move/expect it to move. i dont visualise. yet the objects i want to move eventually after a few seconds{30-60 seconds} starts to move. the objects i moved so far are: the psiwheel {paper, aluminum}, pencils, pens, bouncy balls, cigarettes {rolled off table} and any other exercises i feel like taking a shot at....and although i know i can move things so far i havent tried to move chairs and such yet.....i dont think i got it in me just yet...

anyways...i'm sorry if i sounded rude on saying that i wasnt a beginner.

oh and the site...no offence...doesnt say excrement on it....just simple things....and the video of the guy moving the page...is a fake...u can see the page being pulled by a string thats held in the off-camera hand.and thats why he flips through it once more to find that page....but cancels once he remembers not to show how he cheated on camera. {just what i saw anyways}

If you look on his youtube channel you can see that he can do a lot of things.For example I picked one video that it's hard to say that is fake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQHCcuqyXuY

And for Zino.Even if it could exist so called "master of telekinesis" they wouldn't show themslef on public.
And telekinesis is like a muscle that you never used.And you need patience, belief and a lot of other stuff.

Did you achieve astral projection the first time you tried.I don't think so.The same goes to telekinesis and other kinetic abilities.

I don't intend to make you believe.But I know that for me it exists and that it's just enough.Believe it or not it still exists.

Peace out Vladjackguy

Dragohad · December 13, 2009, 09:14:58

the video you just posted is a fake.....look at how the dice "always" lands on the same side.....in a environment like that you should see it flip to a different one but it doesnt......and pay close attention to his hands as the die lifts up and falls.

second, the video of me moving the psiwheel is about 6 years ago....and i found it one day on my labtop and put it on youtube later that day....

if you want i can try to post a better video now.....{whenever i feel like getting back on the bandwagon that is.....}

AND Roux · December 15, 2009, 02:56:29

Quote from: Dragohad on December 13, 2009, 09:14:58

second, the video of me moving the psiwheel is about 6 years ago....and i found it one day on my labtop and put it on youtube later that day....

if you want i can try to post a better video now.....{whenever i feel like getting back on the bandwagon that is.....}

Posting a new video is not necessary. Unless you can lift or move an object with your mind that you would NOT be able to move using good ol' fashioned brute strength, what's the point?

Using the information you supplied, it takes a person approximately 3 to 4 years worth of training in order to spin a paper wheel with their mind. It takes me about 2 seconds to inhale a deep breathe and about the same time to exert that air onto the wheel. Both actions get the same reaction. I guess it would make a cool party trick though?

I'm not trying to bust your balls man. I just don't see the point, that's all.

Andrew

Dragohad · December 15, 2009, 08:19:41

yeah, sure. it takes alot of time. but you dont hear martial artist in asia complaining do you? about thier internal energy powers. it takes them thier entire lives to use Qi.

anyways. my point is that its not something to use at parties, or around the house. its a spiriual journey. it connects one with the ultimate power. {god, mother earth, nature, etc.}

its just what i think anyways.
and it just doesnt help my last names munck {pronounced monk}. LoL

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