Alien messages

[Rusty]

Howdy folks has any one been here?  http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/

This guy is the real deal he is communicating with aliens
and he posts a new channeled message every month.
Be sure and read them all beginning in sept 08
They will blow your mind.

[Oblivion]

Aliens do not channel messages. Don't let fake websites like this misdirect you from the true path to enlightenment and understanding.

[kurtykurt42]

How can you be certain that they don't channel messages?

Space and time aren't obstacles for telepathic communication and channeling. Any extraterrestrial with the ability to communicate telepathically could communicate from their planet to ours.

[zareste]

"Aliens do not channel messages"

There's a neat little 'cosmic internet' out there that telepaths use. Lots of people from lots of planets and star systems use it.
I think some of those Earthicans feel alone in the universe because they lack the tools and know-how to connect to it, so they lack contact because most humanoids aren't going to fly 10 light-years to a little blue planet just to chat

Still, the above site is obviously there to sell books, and the guy is a wacko

[Oblivion]

These silly Alien channellings are just ways for certain individuals to make money out of people.

[Yamabushi]

If you want to communicate with aliens then do it yourself. Get their attention out of body, they can "see" you. Don't rely on third party channelers; they themselves may be full of crap, and if they aren't, the ETs they are channeling may be (superior technology does not make superior entities).

[kurtykurt42]

If you want to communicate with aliens then do it yourself. Get their attention out of body, they can "see" you. Don't rely on third party channelers; they themselves may be full of crap, and if they aren't, the ETs they are channeling may be (superior technology does not make superior entities).

What makes a being a superior entity? When entire worlds pray to you and worship you, are you a superior entity? When they call you God and make sacrifices to you and pray to you?

With a thorough understanding of technology you can become a superior entity, at least to more primitive worlds. With the technological knowledge they possess comes great responsibly.

[zareste]

I'm certainly with Yamabushi there, particularly about the lying humanoids. Sometimes I can actually tell that a channeling is real because of the brand of bovine excrement being handed to the psychic

[Yamabushi]

When entire worlds pray to you and worship you, are you a superior entity? When they call you God and make sacrifices to you and pray to you?

Not necessarily, in both cases.

I was pointing out that superior technology alone does not make someone or a civilization "better or worse." Of course it should be pointed out that concepts of inferiority and superiority are relative and mostly based upon value scales which are highly subjective. To me, "superiority" is a matter of wisdom. Wisdom lies in how and for what knowledge is used, not how much of it is harvested and used. It does not take wisdom to advance technology.

Some of the spacefaring kinds in our galaxy and others do not responsibly use their relatively advanced technology. It is not beyond some of them to relay disinformation or misinformation to human sensitives for deceptive or downright malicious purposes.

[kurtykurt42]

I was pointing out that superior technology alone does not make someone or a civilization "better or worse."

I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

Some of the spacefaring kinds in our galaxy and others do not responsibly use their relatively advanced technology. It is not beyond some of them to relay disinformation or misinformation to human sensitives for deceptive or downright malicious purposes.

When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?

[Yamabushi]

I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

The purpose of technology is to make living easier. That's not my point. People still hunt, get infections and die, and catch deadly diseases, and fight wars. It says something about a planetary civilization, from an ET perspective, when it still concerns itself with new technological means of killing one another. I don't have to worry (too much) about losing my arm as you suggest, but that doesn't mean I can't and necessarily won't get shot in the head by a gang banger (or even a cop, these days) or get hit by a drunk driver while walking to the store. Wisdom starts at the level of the individual. Technology does not lead to wisdom. Look at what happened with the Manhattan Project.

When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?

Yes. I'm also talking about transversal entities who, by word of mouth from a number of extraterrestrials, engineer galaxies (NGC 4736, anyone?) and universal cycles like our current one.

[kurtykurt42]

So your point is, wisdom lies in how knowledge is used, and that it doesn't take wisdom to advance technologically.

I did a little research to find out more about how to "obtain" wisdom, but I thought I would post a good definition first,

Wisdom: knowledge, understanding, [experience] discipline, discretion, and intuitive understanding, along with a capacity to apply these qualities well towards finding solutions to problems. In many traditions, the terms wisdom and intelligence have somewhat overlapping meanings; in others they are arranged hierarchically, with intelligence being necessary but not sufficient for wisdom.

I guess the only thing we can really do, if any of us are lucky enough to develop all of these traits, is to decide whether or not we use what we know for good or evil.

Yes. I'm also talking about transversal entities who, by word of mouth from a number of extraterrestrials, engineer galaxies (NGC 4736, anyone?) and universal cycles like our current one.

Could you elaborate on this?

[zareste]

"is to decide whether or not we use what we know for good or evil"

I'm hoping no more technology falls into the hands of dualists in the first place

[radman32]

i just read that NGC 4736 was composed of no dark matter ... hmm? well do elaborate how u think our cycle is engineered as well as NGC 4736

[Yamabushi]

i just read that NGC 4736 was composed of no dark matter ... hmm? well do elaborate how u think our cycle is engineered as well as NGC 4736

I'm not very knowledgeable in the area of galactic engineering. I was told by "people not from here" that 4736 was a "project" of more than one transversal kind in cooperation with more than one biological kind. I take what I'm told (especially by them) with a grain of salt until they can provide or I find further information supporting it. The dark matter findings were interesting and suggestive; a galaxy cannot host life without a dark matter halo and apparently the next order of business is moving it to a region that has some, or moving some to the galaxy. A friend at the NRAO thought Jalocha et al were using an outdated method of measuring and said she might try to use the GBT to look at the galaxy's H1 distribution - I'm still awaiting results.

How they engineered our current spacetime was the equivalent of impelling a Big Crunch of their own followed by "our" Big Bang. The Big Bang was more of a Big Rebound from negative time/space. As I understand it (and without getting too technical), they made the universe so imbalanced in subquantum energy that it naturally forced the entire thing to redress the imbalance. It shifts phase, drawing more energy from upstream (macro-quantum) by forcing the bubble (previous universe) to become insoluble - think of it as a great water bubble - therefore it sort of collapsed on itself, became a flatline of sorts, and then became sort of toroidal and began to reconstitute itself again.

George LoBuono's book about the Verdants, available online in word.doc form at http://www.alienmindbook.org/ or as a net book somewhere on the bibliotecapleyades site, talks quite a bit about transversal (or what he calls hyperversal) entities and a little bit about how they did it, albeit in a relatively non-technical way (no mention of anti de Sitter spaces, for example). Much of what George says in his book is congruent with my experiences and understanding of exological issues and exopolitical concerns.

YB

[Rusty]

Howdy here is another good one  http://www.wisdomofthelight.com/New_Home.html  these messages
are real check them out!

[zareste]

it's bull crap. They want to control people by saying "we are the light"

[hizuka007]

whoaaaa!! do these aliens sells alien money?

[Stillwater]

No silly, they want alien money (so they can pay someone to fix up their site layout)

Learn to economics 

[zareste]

Maybe our currency is worth more than Sirius currency

[Stillwater]

Maybe, but then they would just be getting the value of the exchange rate.

Are you saying Sirians are inherently dishonest?

[zareste]

Well, no, but they are rather dishonest, now that you mention it

[thirdeye26]

"Aliens do not channel messages"

There's a neat little 'cosmic internet' out there that telepaths use. Lots of people from lots of planets and star systems use it.
I think some of those Earthicans feel alone in the universe because they lack the tools and know-how to connect to it, so they lack contact because most humanoids aren't going to fly 10 light-years to a little blue planet just to chat

Still, the above site is obviously there to sell books, and the guy is a wacko

But how can we be so sure that aliens exist? Is there any scientific proof that they exist? Or is it something like ghosts that only the gifted can see?

[Dragohad]

the scientific proof to me is that we are the only ones in a galaxy of over a billion stars. whats the ratio of life in that given equation?.....1 billion to 1?....too unlikely that we are the only ones....wheither or not we run into 1 another in the lives of our planets or systems....doesnt matter on that side note....i just refuse to think that we are just here alone. too improbable.

[vladjackguy]

I asked the so called "alien's" to speak to me or/and give me some proof that they are there.They are vast beings of light who want to help us.You can feel the radiant liquid light energy when you speak/channel with them.They have told me that they will appear to me in a dream.So that night i had a dream with them appearing in our town.I was with my friends an we were extremly calm.My sister got "alien" dreams too and they were peacefull and somewhat playfull and full of joy.
They are our allies and they are allied with the other light beings of God. Namaste