Alien messages

[zareste]

But how can we be so sure that aliens exist? Is there any scientific proof that they exist? Or is it something like ghosts that only the gifted can see?

You don't have to be sure of anything. You could look me in the face and say I don't exist. We could all be living in the Matrix, all the disconnected accounts of off-world visitors could be lies, the videos could be hoaxes, the historical records by disconnected tribes could all be made up. It's just that I'm not willing to bet my butt on it.

Off-world life offends us is because we have all these crazy assumptions about the universe, and the existence of humanoids destroys those assumptions. People assumed things like, God made the Earth in 6 days, Earth life ascended from bacteria, humans came only from apes, the sky-beings of ancient history are fake, telepathic messages are made up by your mind, humans are the smartest things ever, and nothing can move faster than light. So when sky-beings flew in from 39 lightyears away, walked through our walls and telepathically told us they're our technologically advanced genetic cousins and we were engineered, that upset a few people.

So while we have no dogmas saying off-world life cannot exist, it has been... deduced from an array of crazy ideas.

About this galactic internet thing - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things. kurtykurt42 seems to have it down to quite a science

[Stillwater]

About this galactic internet thing - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things.

Haha, Zareste... I actually said something remarkably similar a couple days ago, half joking / half serious; I am pretty sure I never read a reference to the idea before it occurred to me, although I admit, it is a farily simple and direct concept multiple people would come up with:

We are basically in the dark, since there is no real way that this story can develop, no new way for information to come. I would say it is like the Greek who discovered Jupiter- amazing find, but impossible to know what it was or meant at the time, and no way to find out anything more. If there is an intergalactic "internet" through which other entities are connected, we haven't even learned to read yet.

[kurtykurt42]

About this galactic internet thing - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things. kurtykurt42 seems to have it down to quite a science

Dont' worry, I'll be sure to ask for a username and password for you guys. 

[lonecrow66]

Channeling is BS sorry. 

There is meditating and astral travel and communicating with others.  But channeling is pretty much BS and is mainly people's own inner monologue.  I heard all sorts of conversations and sounds in different languages all day long and its a mish mash of thought patterns emerging around the planet.  Most of it is not directed at ME or two way.  People can pick up thoughts but channeling alien beings is BS.   That whole loving angelic we are here to help you bovine excrement is just that.  bovine excrement. 

[Stookie]

Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.

[Xanth]

Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.

I remember all that... she seriously felt let down.
I felt sorry for her really.  But meh... no aliens yet.  Quel surprise. 

[kurtykurt42]

I'm not 100% sure what channeling is but what I do is project to the RTZ/4th density and communicate with other beings. Then when I see them I start talking with them and then will slowly project back into my body and they usually follow me back to where I'm meditating. I can hear them perfectly and see them as well.

[lonecrow66]

Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.

This is why any sane person should NEVER EVER accept "channeled" information from anyone.  Do your own meditation and only believe what you think.  Don't take what others have to say when it comes to that.  They could have negative forces inside.  The best thing for you and your own purpose in life  - all the answers YOU NEED are inside yourself.

I'm not saying not to take advice from others or wisdom.  I am saying not to trust ANY channeled information.

[Xanth]

This is why any sane person should NEVER EVER accept "channeled" information from anyone.  Do your own meditation and only believe what you think.  Don't take what others have to say when it comes to that.  They could have negative forces inside.  The best thing for you and your own purpose in life  - all the answers YOU NEED are inside yourself.

I'm not saying not to take advice from others or wisdom.  I am saying not to trust ANY channeled information.

All of that "channeled" information also has to go through your own perceptions and realizations before they make any sense to you.
This is, no doubt, going to bias and colour it in whatever flavour you want.
Your wants, desires and expected experiences are going to be imprinted upon everything.

[Stookie]

My instinct tells me that there are a lot of beings out there who LOVE to fool with our heads and emotions. Like it's their job. The higher ones tend not to impose in the same way.

There's some good anthropsophy literature that goes into the nature of channeling/spiritualism, seances, automatic writing, ouiji boards, etc., and the beings they tend to attract.

[Tiny]

only believe what you think. 

Dear lonecrow66,

*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.



peace

[Xanth]

Dear lonecrow66,

*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.

peace

"more often they are not"?
I find that very hard to believe...

[Stookie]

Our thoughts aren't always our intention, but not necessarily an invasion. Though meditation you can hone your thinking/concentration skills to where you choose what you want to think about.

[NoY]

Some of these sites have been received very badly because they sell books lol
so does the pulse

i have read many of the articles from both sites and they seem to me quite enlightened really
its not all nonsense

don't be to quick to judge i guess is what I'm saying

:NoY:

[kurtykurt42]

I don't like websites that sell books either but I guess people have to make a living.

*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.

I don't think that 51% of your thoughts come from external influences but for some people it may be pretty close to that. 

[Tiny]

"more often they are not"?
I find that very hard to believe...

Dear Xanth,

I'm sure you do.

I believe it is actually closer to count around the 90% mark. Of course a lot of it relates to the human desire-body, which for example commercials and markets exploit and use to program people.
But If people knew just how much they are programmed by unseen beings such as aliens and astral beings, they would truely shudder. There's a "grid" that blankets the earth and it is very, very tight. The sensitive one can feel it.
True desires from the heart whisper only so gently, but pressing desires and urges are all external ones.



peace

[Xanth]

Dear Xanth,

I'm sure you do.

I believe it is actually closer to count around the 90% mark. Of course a lot of it relates to the human desire-body, which for example commercials and markets exploit and use to program people.
But If people knew just how much they are programmed by unseen beings such as aliens and astral beings, they would truely shudder. There's a "grid" that blankets the earth and it is very, very tight. The sensitive one can feel it.
True desires from the heart whisper only so gently, but pressing desires and urges are all external ones.

peace

And I don't believe in God... but according to Christians, he believes in me.  Right?
Is that how it works?

Yeah, sorry... no.

[Tiny]

And I don't believe in God... but according to Christians, he believes in me.  Right?
Is that how it works?

Yeah, sorry... no.

I really don't get what you're trying to say.


But it really doesn't matter what earth people believe  . At the end of the day things simply are the way they are     and those earth people who are aware of the mental pirates have called them different names throughout history, Anunnaki, demons and such, i like to call them agents of darkness.



peace

[cpt. picard]

I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?

Culturally, technology has not always had a great impact. Call me a romantic, but it seems to me humans have been culturally and morally superior a few times in history as compared to now, the easiest way to do things (technology) does not make anything superior. Culturally right now for example, we are at one of the most ignorant periods in earth history, some people know much more then people in the past, true, but overall amongst younger generations especially, there seems to be a cultural inclination towards ignorance, and being proud of that ignorance. Facebook and cell phones and alot of technology have not helped this growing trend. I think culture and technology can influence each other but overall evolve independantly.